It's NY Giants week

[markshark84]

What game were you watching cause I wasn't that wrong. Eli threw for 350 yards that is surgical. It took Baker to jump in Barry's ass to wake him up. So no I don't think I was as off as you claim. Barry is a joke and we can also thank McAdoo and his conservative calls. He should have been been putting the ball down the field, Sterling and Cruz were seriously under used. This game is a perfect example of being lucky, cause we are far from good.

I hate to break it to you, but in the NFL throwing for 350 yards is pretty common. If you think Eli surgically removed our D's balls yesterday, you are beyond help. Might as well admit you a homer on the Giants bandwagon.

It just seems to me that you are just a Redskin Homer that isn't able to see the proverbial forest for the tree's when it comes to the Redskins. The fact is the ranking and statistics tell you all you need to know about Joe Barry as if his 0-16 record as a DC in Detroit isn't more than enough of a reason to fire this dude. Yes you are right about NFL QB's throwing for 350 being common but what you fail to see or comprehend in most cases QB's throwing for 350 are yards made in garbage time when the score is out of reach. Eli did surgically cut some balls which is why Chris Baker cussed Barry out. The fact is perhaps Quinton Dunbar, Will Blackmon played better than Hall and Breeland also might have something to do with it. However if Eli didn't throw them picks we are 0-3 and most of us are screaming for Barry's head. Although you would most likely find some stupid reason as to why all is coming up smelling like roses.......

This is the first and only post I have ever agreed with by this poster (at least agreeing with portions of it --- contrary to disagreeing with literally everything this dude writes).

I don't think 350 yards is "common" as only 4 QBs did it last week ---- all of whom lost their respective games.

I disagree that what Barry did in DET shows he needs to be fired. Typically you are fired based on your performance for YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYER. Barry has not done a good job this year, but firing him in week 4 would just be the same old crap that Snyder and his "yes men" did a couple years ago..... not good.

And the fact Baker cussed out Barry only shows that Baker has an issue ---- not Barry. If I were Gruden and one of my players was disrespectful to a member of my staff --- they'd be gone at worst and benched for a game or two at best. And it's not like Baker is a great or even above average player --- he's one of the guys I'd cut at the end of the year as his unit is the one underperforming....

I also agree that Blackmon and Dunbar played better than DHall and Breeland, respectively. I also agree that Blackmon (who received the highest DEF player rating per ProFootball Focus) is better than DHall in general. Not sure about Breeland and Dunbar --- remember Dunbar was the one that made that special teams error/fumble. But Dunbar proved he needs more PT.

I also agree that had we not had those 3 TOs, we'd be complaining about the DEF more instead of saying they "steeped up" (which I don't consider a 27 point output as "stepping up"). However, you have to give credit where it is due in that they turned the ball over 3 times, which is nice considering they only have turned the ball over 1 time in the past 2 games.

And if we were 0-3, there would be more anti-Cousins talk also; even though he played a fantastic game.

[Irn-Bru]

This is the first and only post I have ever agreed with by this poster (at least agreeing with portions of it --- contrary to disagreeing with literally everything this dude writes).

I don't think 350 yards is "common" as only 4 QBs did it last week ---- all of whom lost their respective games.

Let's say this past week was representative: if something happens in a quarter of all games, that qualifies as "common." I'm not saying it's the majority. Let's be real.

But more to the point, saying that Eli threw for 350 yards does very little to show that he "surgically removed our balls," which was DaSkinz's prediction that he continues to stand by. Eli threw three interceptions and it should have been four. (Only two count, of course, as one was a miscall by the officials.) If Cousins had the day Eli had, DaSkinz would be calling him a bum. Instead it was an impressive performance from one of the league's best.

I also agree that had we not had those 3 TOs, we'd be complaining about the DEF more instead of saying they "steeped up" (which I don't consider a 27 point output as "stepping up"). However, you have to give credit where it is due in that they turned the ball over 3 times,

I don't think anyone is saying the defense was dominant. But like you, most of us are saying that some credit is due, particularly for the second half.

And I'm adding that, contrary to DaSkinz's breathless predictions, Eli did not have a career day against us. This really isn't controversial.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Eli did not have a career day against us. This really isn't controversial.

I disagree. Eli has had many days like that in his career. Wouldn't that make it a career day?

[SkinsJock]

The defense doesn't deserve any credit. It gave up 27 points and is ranked 30th overall in points allowed. Individual players do deserve credit. Without Dunbar and Cravens (Bruton got screwed) the Skins lose that game. That performance doesn't win many games. It won that one because Eli is back to being Eli. The defense wasn't stopping anything until Cravens made that play.

sorry, but you're wrong - this is a team game - Eli didn't lose the game by himself anymore than a few players on our side "won' it

[Irn-Bru]

Eli did not have a career day against us. This really isn't controversial.

I disagree. Eli has had many days like that in his career. Wouldn't that make it a career day?

[markshark84]

Let's say this past week was representative: if something happens in a quarter of all games, that qualifies as "common." I'm not saying it's the majority. Let's be real.

But more to the point, saying that Eli threw for 350 yards does very little to show that he "surgically removed our balls," which was DaSkinz's prediction that he continues to stand by. Eli threw three interceptions and it should have been four. (Only two count, of course, as one was a miscall by the officials.) If Cousins had the day Eli had, DaSkinz would be calling him a bum. Instead it was an impressive performance from one of the league's best.

In this particular case, this was 1/8th of all QBs, not 1/4th, but I hear what you are saying. I still believe that 350 yards passing isn't "common" even in the 25% sense, but perhaps something in the 15% range.

I agree that passing yards alone doesn't mean that Eli owned our DEF; however, his stats indicate he was able to throw the ball where he wanted to but, like Eli has been known to do, made mistakes in the form of INTs. He threw 2 (and you can say that the Dunbar catch was "lucky" as the bad call for Burton Jr. was "unlucky"). Not sure where the 4th one that you're referring to.

Re the Cousins-Eli comment, I agree with you 1,000%. In fact, Cousins statistically had a BETTER day against DAL (vs. Eli's) and he was on here talking all sorts of crap about Cousins and how he needs to go. That comment by you is a FACT. Totally agree. Dude has his agenda and he sticks to the script.

I don't think anyone is saying the defense was dominant. But like you, most of us are saying that some credit is due, particularly for the second half.

And I'm adding that, contrary to DaSkinz's breathless predictions, Eli did not have a career day against us. This really isn't controversial.

I still believe our DEF played poorly/below average against NYG as a whole (a C- grade at best). I also agree that Eli didn't have a "career" day against us by any means. I consider both of those statements as facts and not in the least bit "controversial".......

[Irn-Bru]

I agree that passing yards alone doesn't mean that Eli owned our DEF; however, his stats indicate he was able to throw the ball where he wanted to but, like Eli has been known to do, made mistakes in the form of INTs. He threw 2 (and you can say that the Dunbar catch was "lucky" as the bad call for Burton Jr. was "unlucky"). Not sure where the 4th one that you're referring to.

Actual interceptions that counted: Dunbar, Cravens.
Interception that the refs took away from us: Bruton
Interceptable ball that should have been picked but wasn't: Norman

[DarthMonk]

Hey, Ginas: