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[riggofan]

Thrilled with the pick. Makes the reads, quick throws, big... and, local...

I love it. I understand that he has some hometown appeal here, but this was more than a marketing move. Giants fans are pissed this morning.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Thrilled with the pick. Makes the reads, quick throws, big... and, local...

I love it. I understand that he has some hometown appeal here, but this was more than a marketing move. Giants fans are pissed this morning.

The Giants took a prospect at #6 that they probably could have drafted in the 2nd round. No one was all that high on Daniel Jones.

[riggofan]

Some good notes this AM:

ESPN
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12h12 hours ago

"The league done messed up."

Dwayne Haskins letting Washington Redskins fans know he's ready to get work

Adam Schefter
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5m5 minutes ago

While the Giants are planning to have Daniel Jones back up Eli Manning, the Redskins will give Dwayne Haskins the chance to compete for the starting job right away. “I think you have to give him an opportunity without a doubt,” said Washington HC Jay Gruden.

Bleacher Report
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13h13 hours ago

Giants passed on Haskins. He laughed. Now he’s in the division.

[riggofan]

The Giants took a prospect at #6 that they probably could have drafted in the 2nd round. No one was all that high on Daniel Jones.

Thought this one was funny:

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

The Giants took a prospect at #6 that they probably could have drafted in the 2nd round. No one was all that high on Daniel Jones.

Thought this one was funny:

I think it's even funnier they took him because he was coached by the same guy who coached Eli and Peyton. Like that's got anything to do with the ability to play the position. Hey, maybe he'll throw as many picks as Eli.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

In case anyone wants to read what the pundits have to say about the Skins draft thus far:

“The Washington Redskins and Daniel Snyder nailed it,” CBS Sports Network’s Adam Schein said. “This is not a drill.”

Schwartz and Schein weren’t alone. Here’s a roundup of what some other draft experts had to say about Washington’s eventful Thursday.

Mel Kiper, ESPN

“Though I don’t always love these kinds of trades, this isn’t too much to give up for a prospect like Sweat,” wrote Kiper, who had the pass rusher ranked No. 12 on his list of prospects and said the board “fell perfectly” for Washington. “I like what Washington did on Day 1.”

Chad Reuter, NFL.com

“Given the murky future of Alex Smith, finding Haskins waiting for them at No. 15 could prove to be franchise-changing,” wrote Reuter, who gave the Redskins an A- grade for their first-round picks.

Gregg Rosenthal, NFL.com

“If Haskins is a long-term gambit, trading back into the first round to draft edge rusher Montez Sweat was the sign of a team wanting to get better now,” wrote Rosenthal, who named Washington one of his Day 1 winners. “ . . . For a franchise needing an infusion of energy and optimism after Alex Smith’s leg injury — which threw his future in doubt — and a rough offseason, Haskins and Sweat provide hope.”

Pete Prisco, CBS

“I think he’s the best quarterback in this draft and it’s a great pick for the Redskins,” Prisco said of Haskins. “Getting a cheap quarterback to come in and push to start right away is a great move. Love this pick by the Redskins. Like Kyler Murray he’s a one-year wonder, but there’s a lot of potential here.”

Prisco graded the Haskins and Sweat picks an A and B, respectively.

Mike Tanier, Bleacher Report

“Haskins looks like a Snyder or Allen pick, not a Jay Gruden pick,” Tanier wrote. “Grudens like their quarterbacks quick and pesky, not big and pocket-y. So the Skins get credit for selecting a much-needed starting quarterback without trading up. But with better planning and organizational vision, they also could have done a lot better.”

Tanier graded the Haskins pick a B and the Sweat selection an A-, adding “it’s a move with the potential to pay off in the long run.”

Vinnie Iyer, The Sporting News

“Washington fans freaked out early when it was leaked than owner Daniel Snyder would take control of the draft and likely trade up in a bad way,” wrote Iyer, who listed the Redskins among his winners. “Then they saw their team get its desired franchise quarterback prospect by doing nothing and staying at No. 15 and follow it up with a more calculated move to jump back in to get a scheme-ideal edge pass rusher who should have gone in the top 10 at way down at No. 26. Hail to the Redskins’ resourcefulness.”

Dan Kadar, SB Nation

“Washington owner Daniel Snyder got the player he wanted,” wrote Kadar, who graded the Haskins pick an A+ and the Sweat pick an A. “And he did the right thing? That’s weird to say about Snyder.”

Steven Ruiz, For The Win

“The Redskins are killing the draft, and I have no idea what’s real anymore,” wrote Ruiz, who gave the Haskins (A) and Sweat (A-) picks high marks.

John Clayton, for The Post

“The Redskins didn’t need to trade up to get the quarterback they wanted,” Clayton wrote. “Haskins fell to them at 15th overall, as the team read the draft board perfectly, knowing there would be a run on defensive linemen early. Washington should also get credit for moving back into the first round to get an impact edge rusher in Mississippi State’s Montez Sweat at 26th overall.”

Andy Benoit, Sports Illustrated

Benoit didn’t like the Redskins’ moves as much as most of his colleagues, assigning the Haskins pick a C+ grade and the Sweat pick a B+.

“The question now becomes, How soon will Haskins play?” Benoit wrote. “Having such a small sample size from college, he’s expected to be a work-in-progress. Can he be consistently accurate and poised from the pocket?”

[Irn-Bru]

I don’t remember who said it but when we drafted RG he said if the Skins miss on him it would set the franchise back 10 years. Well here we are in year 7 and we are still trying to solve our QB position.

I remember that too and I think he was totally mistaken. RG3 set us back a good 3-4 years but the roster has entirely turned over twice since then, including two starter-quality QBs we've gone through. Whatever issues we have today are unrelated to the 2012 trade.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I don’t remember who said it but when we drafted RG he said if the Skins miss on him it would set the franchise back 10 years. Well here we are in year 7 and we are still trying to solve our QB position.

I remember that too and I think he was totally mistaken. RG3 set us back a good 3-4 years but the roster has almost entirely turned over twice since then, including two starter-quality QBs we've gone through. Whatever issues we have today are unrelated to the 2012 trade.

No, they're all related to the 1999 sale.

[Irn-Bru]

I don’t remember who said it but when we drafted RG he said if the Skins miss on him it would set the franchise back 10 years. Well here we are in year 7 and we are still trying to solve our QB position.

I remember that too and I think he was totally mistaken. RG3 set us back a good 3-4 years but the roster has almost entirely turned over twice since then, including two starter-quality QBs we've gone through. Whatever issues we have today are unrelated to the 2012 trade.

No, they're all related to the 1999 sale.

Yep, pretty much.

[ferryrich]

I think I generally agree with those 'experts' reviews. It's a few years since we've gone into day 2 with me feeling so positive about what we've done on day 1. I'm trying to hold back from showering the praise as I'm still expecting something to go wrong! Either with those picks, or our picks tonight or just anything in general

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I think I generally agree with those 'experts' reviews. It's a few years since we've gone into day 2 with me feeling so positive about what we've done on day 1. I'm trying to hold back from showering the praise as I'm still expecting something to go wrong! Either with those picks, or our picks tonight or just anything in general

We won't know what we have in these prospects for a while but it''s nice to not have the talking heads criticizing our every pick. I think I even read a few compliments of Dan Snyder.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

John Clayton on the Giants draft:

New York Giants: Daniel Jones, QB, Duke (6th)

Truth be told, it would be fair to criticize all three of the Giants’ first-round picks. Clemson nose tackle Dexter Lawrence was a reach at No. 17, which is the first-rounder they obtained from the Cleveland Browns in the Odell Beckham Jr. trade. Georgia cornerback Deandre Baker is a good player, but in trading up to the 30th pick they had to give up two fourth-round selections. But the one that sticks out the most is Jones, at No. 6. The team probably could have gotten taken a top defensive player like Josh Allen or Ed Oliver and then selected Jones 17th overall — or made a modest trade back up to land him.

[Sonny9TD]

Well. Here is the real deal. We could have had Sweat at 15 and Haskins would still be on the board right now. If we wanted Haskins which i didn't but beside the point a deal could have been made today to move up in front of Denver for way less than spending a first round and two second rounders for the same people. Sweat is a great pick. Haskins was still a reach and is going to be no better than a 4th round QB is going to be. But this can't be proven until the season so for now here is hoping Case Keenum or Colt McCoy makes the Pro Bowl.

Jay Gruen didn't want this QB but Dan had to go and stab his coach in the back Once Again. Get out of the draft room Dan!! NOW!!

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Well. Here is the real deal. We could have had Sweat at 15 and Haskins would still be on the board right now. If we wanted Haskins which i didn't but beside the point a deal could have been made today to move up in front of Denver for way less than spending a first round and two second rounders for the same people. Sweat is a great pick. Haskins was still a reach and is going to be no better than a 4th round QB is going to be. But this can't be proven until the season so for now here is hoping Case Keenum or Colt McCoy makes the Pro Bowl.

Where are you getting that? There isn't one thing I've read that said Haskins would still be on the board in the 2nd round. I've certainly seen nothing that grades him as a 4th round pick. Or even a 2nd round pick. I have seen grades that put him higher than Kyler Murray.

[Sonny9TD]

Who was going to draft him? I need to know.

Answer: No one in the first round
How do i know? Ask Drew Lock who drafted him

They even thought about getting Sweat at 15 but Danny had a owner tizzy fit. Meddling azzhat.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Where are you getting that? There isn't one thing I've read that said Haskins would still be on the board in the 2nd round. I've certainly seen nothing that grades him as a 4th round pick. Or even a 2nd round pick. I have seen grades that put him higher than Kyler Murray.

Who was going to draft him? I need to know.

Answer: No one in the first round
How do i know? Ask Drew Lock who drafted him

They even thought about getting Sweat at 15 but Danny had a owner fit. Meddling azzhat.[/quote]

Drew Lock stuck his foot in his mouth. He was also never graded as a top ten pick. Haskins was. You should read the writeup by Jerry Brewer. It's spot on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... d52a32f25a

[Sonny9TD]

Where are you getting that? There isn't one thing I've read that said Haskins would still be on the board in the 2nd round. I've certainly seen nothing that grades him as a 4th round pick. Or even a 2nd round pick. I have seen grades that put him higher than Kyler Murray.

Who was going to draft him? I need to know.

Answer: No one in the first round
How do i know? Ask Drew Lock who drafted him

They even thought about getting Sweat at 15 but Danny had a owner fit. Meddling azzhat.

Drew Lock stuck his foot in his mouth. He was also never graded as a top ten pick. Haskins was. You should read the writeup by Jerry Brewer. It's spot on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... kepticism/?
utm_term=.f9d52a32f25a[/quote]

Opinions of the order was all over the map depending who you ask. But so what. Haskins would still be on the board even if Jerry Brewer was whispering in Jay Gruden's ear rubbing his head. Drew Lock isn't going to go on strike no matter who drafts him

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Haskins would still be on the board even if Jerry Brewer was whispering in Jay Gruden's ear rubbing his head

There is absolutely no way to know that. You don't know what other teams would have done if different prospects were still on the board when they drafted.

[Sonny9TD]

Haskins would still be on the board even if Jerry Brewer was whispering in Jay Gruden's ear rubbing his head

There is absolutely no way to know that. You don't know what other teams would have done if different prospects were still on the board when they drafted.

Haskins would still be holding his phone at the bowling alley today. No one needed a QB after us in round 1. The only possible one would be New England and i still don't see them taking Haskins. Unless there was another Dan Snyder in the war room somewhere. There is only one Dan and he is calling the shots in DC.

[DEHog]

I don’t remember who said it but when we drafted RG he said if the Skins miss on him it would set the franchise back 10 years. Well here we are in year 7 and we are still trying to solve our QB position.

I remember that too and I think he was totally mistaken. RG3 set us back a good 3-4 years but the roster has entirely turned over twice since then, including two starter-quality QBs we've gone through. Whatever issues we have today are unrelated to the 2012 trade.

You don't think the whole Cousins fiasco, signing Alex Smith last year, and drafting a QB in the first round this year isn't because RG was a failure?

[DEHog]

Who was going to draft him? I need to know.

Answer: No one in the first round
How do i know? Ask Drew Lock who drafted him

They even thought about getting Sweat at 15 but Danny had a owner tizzy fit. Meddling azzhat.

While I agree to point with you that Haskins may not be better then others, I don't think Haskins would have to the 2nd round,I think some team whole have traded up to get him. I could also see NE taking him...

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Who was going to draft him? I need to know.

Answer: No one in the first round
How do i know? Ask Drew Lock who drafted him

They even thought about getting Sweat at 15 but Danny had a owner tizzy fit. Meddling azzhat.

While I agree to point with you that Haskins may not be better then others, I don't think Haskins would have to the 2nd round,I think some team whole have traded up to get him. I could also see NE taking him...

At least three teams after the Redskins were looking for future quarterbacks. The Broncos, Chargers, and Patriots. All three could put a rookie on the bench for a year or two. I'm just not seeing Haskins making it out of the first round based upon what we know, or what we think we know.

[Sonny9TD]

Who was going to draft him? I need to know.

Answer: No one in the first round
How do i know? Ask Drew Lock who drafted him

They even thought about getting Sweat at 15 but Danny had a owner tizzy fit. Meddling azzhat.

While I agree to point with you that Haskins may not be better then others, I don't think Haskins would have to the 2nd round,I think some team whole have traded up to get him. I could also see NE taking him...

At least three teams after the Redskins were looking for future quarterbacks. The Broncos, Chargers, and Patriots. All three could put a rookie on the bench for a year or two. I'm just not seeing Haskins making it out of the first round based upon what we know, or what we think we know.

Not likely Noah Fant was a Bronco no matter what. Chargers needed defense and got it. But even if they did Redskins could have had a QB just as good later. The only reason people are saying the Redskins did good was because they didn't trade up to get a player Danny wanted although they could have had in the 2nd. If any of those other teams wanted a QB Lock would have been drafted. None of them were waiting on Haskins like Danny was. The Skins let Danny take over and he basically told Jay Gruden to go get him some coffee.

Hell it might have been possible to give the Cardinals two second rounders and we could have had Rosen and Sweat. Not for sure but i would've most certainly tried instead of drafting a one year QB from a team that doesn't run a NFL type offense. But he did go to Danny's son school so watch out Danny's coming in the war room. Hell the Giants took Daniel Jones over him.

[DEHog]

^^^^ I can agree with that, if they liked Sweat they could have grabbed him at 15 and gotten Haskins (maybe) Lock or Finley in the 2nd/3rd round.

[Sonny9TD]

^^^^ I can agree with that, if they liked Sweat they could have grabbed him at 15 and gotten Haskins (maybe) Lock or Finley in the 2nd/3rd round.

Damn straight. I don't care what anyone says or predicted where they were going. That are wrong all the time.. Danny blew this again