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OK what your prediction...
I'm going to say they are involved in trading down for more picks.
I'm going to say they are involved in trading down for more picks.
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Washington Redskins select ...
Rich Forneed.
Hope I'm wrong.
Rich Forneed.
Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
the 2 bozos in charge should follow the advice of the FO guys that have a clue - there are a lot of very good players that we could pick at #17 and we have 9 picks after that - adding 10 good players would be a great start - coach em up and let's see what happens
we really do not need to trade up - just draft as many good players as we can and go from there
if we don't have a good enough scouting department, then we don't have much of a chance of improving, no matter who we pick
the draft is such a lot of hoopla - this is the NFL hype at it's best
we really do not need to trade up - just draft as many good players as we can and go from there
if we don't have a good enough scouting department, then we don't have much of a chance of improving, no matter who we pick
the draft is such a lot of hoopla - this is the NFL hype at it's best
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
Mike Mayock has us taking Tak McKinley.
Panthers draft Mccaffrey and Bengals draft Foster.
Gruden will lobby for Cook. Snyder and Allen agree. Dalvin Cook at 17.
Panthers draft Mccaffrey and Bengals draft Foster.
Gruden will lobby for Cook. Snyder and Allen agree. Dalvin Cook at 17.
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
Without knowing who is still on the board it's impossible to answer this question.
So, I ran ten mocks through fanspeak, and the name that came up as the best player available still on the board at #17 was ...
Derek Barnett.
Here's the last draft so you can see who the "experts" think teams are taking.
1: R1P1
EDGE MYLES GARRETT
CLEVELAND BROWNS
2: R1P2
EDGE SOLOMON THOMAS
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
3: R1P3
DL JONATHAN ALLEN
CHICAGO BEARS
4: R1P4
S MALIK HOOKER
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
5: R1P5
WR MIKE WILLIAMS
TENNESSEE TITANS
6: R1P6
LB REUBEN FOSTER
NEW YORK JETS
7: R1P7
S JAMAL ADAMS
LA CHARGERS
8: R1P8
RB CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY
CAROLINA PANTHERS
9: R1P9
EDGE HAASON REDDICK
CINCINNATI BENGALS
10: R1P10
WR JOHN ROSS
BUFFALO BILLS
11: R1P11
EDGE CHARLES HARRIS
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
12: R1P12
QB MITCH TRUBISKY
CLEVELAND BROWNS
13: R1P13
TE O.J. HOWARD
ARIZONA CARDINALS
14: R1P14
TE DAVID NJOKU
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
15: R1P15
EDGE TAKKARIST MCKINLEY
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
16: R1P16
RB LEONARD FOURNETTE
BALTIMORE RAVENS
17: R1P17
EDGE DEREK BARNETT
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
18: R1P18
CB MARSHON LATTIMORE
TENNESSEE TITANS
19: R1P19
S JABRILL PEPPERS
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
20: R1P20
OT FORREST LAMP
DENVER BRONCOS
21: R1P21
CB MARLON HUMPHREY
DETROIT LIONS
22: R1P22
EDGE TACO CHARLTON
MIAMI DOLPHINS
23: R1P23
OT GARETT BOLLES
NEW YORK GIANTS
24: R1P24
WR COREY DAVIS
OAKLAND RAIDERS
25: R1P25
QB DESHAUN WATSON
HOUSTON TEXANS
26: R1P26
G DAN FEENEY
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
27: R1P27
QB PATRICK MAHOMES II
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
28: R1P28
CB QUINCY WILSON
DALLAS COWBOYS
29: R1P29
CB KEVIN KING
GREEN BAY PACKERS
30: R1P30
QB DESHONE KIZER
PITTSBURGH STEELERS
31: R1P31
LB ZACH CUNNINGHAM
ATLANTA FALCONS
32: R1P32
CB CORDREA TANKERSLEY
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
So, I ran ten mocks through fanspeak, and the name that came up as the best player available still on the board at #17 was ...
Derek Barnett.
Here's the last draft so you can see who the "experts" think teams are taking.
1: R1P1
EDGE MYLES GARRETT
CLEVELAND BROWNS
2: R1P2
EDGE SOLOMON THOMAS
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
3: R1P3
DL JONATHAN ALLEN
CHICAGO BEARS
4: R1P4
S MALIK HOOKER
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
5: R1P5
WR MIKE WILLIAMS
TENNESSEE TITANS
6: R1P6
LB REUBEN FOSTER
NEW YORK JETS
7: R1P7
S JAMAL ADAMS
LA CHARGERS
8: R1P8
RB CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY
CAROLINA PANTHERS
9: R1P9
EDGE HAASON REDDICK
CINCINNATI BENGALS
10: R1P10
WR JOHN ROSS
BUFFALO BILLS
11: R1P11
EDGE CHARLES HARRIS
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
12: R1P12
QB MITCH TRUBISKY
CLEVELAND BROWNS
13: R1P13
TE O.J. HOWARD
ARIZONA CARDINALS
14: R1P14
TE DAVID NJOKU
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
15: R1P15
EDGE TAKKARIST MCKINLEY
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
16: R1P16
RB LEONARD FOURNETTE
BALTIMORE RAVENS
17: R1P17
EDGE DEREK BARNETT
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
18: R1P18
CB MARSHON LATTIMORE
TENNESSEE TITANS
19: R1P19
S JABRILL PEPPERS
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
20: R1P20
OT FORREST LAMP
DENVER BRONCOS
21: R1P21
CB MARLON HUMPHREY
DETROIT LIONS
22: R1P22
EDGE TACO CHARLTON
MIAMI DOLPHINS
23: R1P23
OT GARETT BOLLES
NEW YORK GIANTS
24: R1P24
WR COREY DAVIS
OAKLAND RAIDERS
25: R1P25
QB DESHAUN WATSON
HOUSTON TEXANS
26: R1P26
G DAN FEENEY
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
27: R1P27
QB PATRICK MAHOMES II
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
28: R1P28
CB QUINCY WILSON
DALLAS COWBOYS
29: R1P29
CB KEVIN KING
GREEN BAY PACKERS
30: R1P30
QB DESHONE KIZER
PITTSBURGH STEELERS
31: R1P31
LB ZACH CUNNINGHAM
ATLANTA FALCONS
32: R1P32
CB CORDREA TANKERSLEY
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
“He was at that time the smartest player in the league. We did everything we could to try to eliminate him from the play. We knew if we didn’t neutralize him, then we had less of a chance of winning.” - John Hannah on Chris Hanburger
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
you dick. I almost started to google "Rich Forneed".DarthMonk wrote:Rich Forneed.

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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
Just so hard to guess at #17 without knowing who is likely to be on the board then. I'm going to say the pick is DALVIN COOK.
Agree with HEROHAMO on that one. As much as the defense needs help, I think we're in an offense arms race in the NFC east, and we won't pass on elite talent on either side of the ball.
My top five players I'd like to see drop to us unexpectedly:
1. LEONARD FOURNETTE
2. REUBEN FOSTER
3. MALIK HOOKER
4. HAASON REDDICK
5. OJ HOWARD
Agree with HEROHAMO on that one. As much as the defense needs help, I think we're in an offense arms race in the NFC east, and we won't pass on elite talent on either side of the ball.
My top five players I'd like to see drop to us unexpectedly:
1. LEONARD FOURNETTE
2. REUBEN FOSTER
3. MALIK HOOKER
4. HAASON REDDICK
5. OJ HOWARD
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
I'd love any of those 6 and I will add Ryan Anderson from Alabama - guy's a player and he will become a leader of the defenseriggofan wrote:Just so hard to guess at #17 without knowing who is likely to be on the board then. I'm going to say the pick is DALVIN COOK.
Agree with HEROHAMO on that one. As much as the defense needs help, I think we're in an offense arms race in the NFC east, and we won't pass on elite talent on either side of the ball.
My top five players I'd like to see drop to us unexpectedly:
1. LEONARD FOURNETTE
2. REUBEN FOSTER
3. MALIK HOOKER
4. HAASON REDDICK
5. OJ HOWARD
Last edited by SkinsJock on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
As much as we need defense, I saw a lot of Dalvin Cook, and there's a lot to like.HEROHAMO wrote:Dalvin Cook at 17.
He might need work holding onto the football, though.

I wonder if Matt Jones fumblitis might scare them away from Cook.
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
NFL Comparison: Edgerrin JamesBurgundy&GoldForever wrote:As much as we need defense, I saw a lot of Dalvin Cook, and there's a lot to like.HEROHAMO wrote:Dalvin Cook at 17.
You had me at "Edge".
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Round 1 is tonight. I wonder how late I'll have to say up to see the Redskins make their pick . . .
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Figure 170 minutes past 8:00PM EST. So, 10:50PM ESTIrn-Bru wrote:Round 1 is tonight. I wonder how late I'll have to say up to see the Redskins make their pick . . .

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I've seen today that both the Falcons (31) and Broncos (20) are interested in trading up. Could be a late night for you if we swap with Atlanta!
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Re: NFL Draft Thread
I'd be thrilled if we don't make a pick until after 11pm
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
riggofan wrote:you dick. I almost started to google "Rich Forneed".DarthMonk wrote:Rich Forneed.

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6'5", 245
Strengths:
Fast
Rare speed
Supreme receiving tight end
Mismatch nightmare
Impressive yards-after-the-catch skills for a tight end
Extremely athletic
Generally sure-handed
Quick release off the line
Superb body control
Great catch radius
Leaping ability
Good route-running
Improved blocker
Phenomenal middle-seam tight end
Too fast for linebackers
Too big for safeties
Red-zone weapon
Three-down mismatch tight end
Very versatile
Athletic enough to play h-back
Upside
Uses size to make receptions downfield
Adept at finding the soft spot in zone
Works the middle seam well
Tracks the ball well
Quality run blocker
Decent feet in pass protection
Can sustain his blocks
Hits blocks on the second level
10-15 year starter if he stays healthy
Experienced
Effective against good competition
Strong
Deceptive quickness, athleticism
Quality hands
Durable
Ready to play immediately
Somebody like Pittsburgh will get him and look like geniuses.
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
I think Howard will be gone by 17.
But if it's truly BPA this year's TE prospects are probably the best ever.
You could make an argument that David Njoku and even Evan Ingram are better than most defensive players not top 7.
No doubt Howard could be considered the best player overall.
He's bigger, taller and faster then Myles Garrett.
Evan Ingram is faster than most receivers with a 4.4 forty yard dash.
But if it's truly BPA this year's TE prospects are probably the best ever.
You could make an argument that David Njoku and even Evan Ingram are better than most defensive players not top 7.
No doubt Howard could be considered the best player overall.
He's bigger, taller and faster then Myles Garrett.
Evan Ingram is faster than most receivers with a 4.4 forty yard dash.
Sean Taylor starting free safety Heavens team!
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
Well, it won't be Trubisky.
Holy crap, Chicago. You got raped in that trade.

Holy crap, Chicago. You got raped in that trade.
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Multiple reports Cleveland is trying to trade for Kirk Cousins. This is not a joke.
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Re: With the 17th pick in the 2017 draft the Redskins selec
In fact, one report says Skins trade up to 12 to get Watson. That comes from @RosenbergradioBurgundy&GoldForever wrote:Multiple reports Cleveland is trying to trade for Kirk Cousins. This is not a joke.
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Jason ColeVerified account @JasonColeBR 1m1 minute agoBurgundy&GoldForever wrote:In fact, one report says Skins trade up to 12 to get Watson. That comes from @RosenbergradioBurgundy&GoldForever wrote:Multiple reports Cleveland is trying to trade for Kirk Cousins. This is not a joke.
#Redskins have had at five teams call about trading QB Kirk Cousins this offseason. Every call has been a quick "No."
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Re: NFL Draft thread
1 pick to go and there are a bunch of really good players still on the board
I wanted Hooker but this is going to be a good player
I wanted Hooker but this is going to be a good player
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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#17 Jonathan Allen
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Re: NFL Draft thread
Allen has to be the pick
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Take BPA, Skins, please!
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Looks like they did just that... and a beast... score for Ryan Kerrigan... those two are going to feed off of each other...Irn-Bru wrote:Take BPA, Skins, please!
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