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aswas71788 wrote:Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.


I think his arm is fine. It isn't Brett Favre or John Elway but it isn't bad either. On this play he's standing at his own 45 yard line and gets the ball into the end zone.

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I laughingly thought this better be from this year... Much less last year.. Much MUCH less 2005.. lmmfao a collage pass?!? Gtfoh!!

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I don't care if it was on a sand lot. He threw the ball about 57 yards in the air. That's plenty of arm strength for any NFL receiving route.[/quote]
The turf wasn't the problem bud, WHEN is... Your math might be off a little too..
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aswas71788 wrote:Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.


I don't think that is true at all. You can pull up any of his old draft reports from NFL.com or wherever. You'll find stuff like this: "While his decision making is a question mark, Cousins' arm strength is not. He has very good velocity and can spin the ball down the field."

The criticism - even back in the draft - has been that he's not especially accurate on the deep balls. I think that's fair to say, yeah?


I think that's it. I don't think it's an arm strength issue. I think it's a ball placement issue.
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riggofan wrote:
aswas71788 wrote:Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.


I don't think that is true at all. You can pull up any of his old draft reports from NFL.com or wherever. You'll find stuff like this: "While his decision making is a question mark, Cousins' arm strength is not. He has very good velocity and can spin the ball down the field."

The criticism - even back in the draft - has been that he's not especially accurate on the deep balls. I think that's fair to say, yeah?


I think that's it. I don't think it's an arm strength issue. I think it's a ball placement issue.


It's definitely a ball placement issue. And the farther the pass, the smaller the window. If he's throwing outside the reach of Garcon and behind receivers on short and intermediate routes then he's probably not going to have the Mark Rypien touch on deep balls.
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cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:^^to this point... Has Kirk EVER hit people in stride deep?!?

I'm not in any way lobbying for a change... Just pointing out facts yall


How about the pass to Ross that got the interferance call near the end of the 4th qtr? I think Ross is th only one that has the speed but they're bringing him in slow. The only other deep ball I recall was to Djax (early in the 1st game, before Djax went out with the hamstring) and Cousins outthrew him, that was supposed to be impossible.
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Maybe it's the fact that he has had limited time to work with the receivers and has a different set every game.
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KILO wrote:Maybe it's the fact that he has had limited time to work with the receivers and has a different set every game.

What? How do you figure "he has had limited time to work with the receivers?" Even backups work with the receivers, and he has been the starter since the 3rd pre-season game (not to mention previous seasons). And the "different set" thing is ridiculous too. Players rotate in and out during games, but it's not like Garcon hasn't been his #1 all season. The only real change has been at the TE position, because Reed is out (granted this is a big piece to be missing). Still I don't think this is at all a valid excuse.
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I personally think to do halftime adjusting have to have the consistancy in play to make a change. You have to be able to do things in an exact predictable fashion to make a change, right now they run the sam eplay three time and there will be three different outcomes, until they get good enough that the outcome is consistantly the same the only adjustment you'd make is to get consistant. Once that is achieved then you can adjust out of it.
As proof I'll bet they make all mannor of halftime adjustments, we can't see the difference.
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oj wrote:I personally think to do halftime adjusting have to have the consistancy in play to make a change. You have to be able to do things in an exact predictable fashion to make a change, right now they run the sam eplay three time and there will be three different outcomes, until they get good enough that the outcome is consistantly the same the only adjustment you'd make is to get consistant. Once that is achieved then you can adjust out of it.
As proof I'll bet they make all mannor of halftime adjustments, we can't see the difference.

Thank you for getting this back on topic...

Regarding any concern about defensive halftime adjustment, I have to repeat... The gameplan was clearly to negate the very strong passing game, and force ATL to beat us on the ground. Say what you want about the failure to effectively manage Murphy's assignment, or repeated inside runs against the other side, this was an effective game plan, and remained so in the second half. The D did exactly what it needed to do... It was not run defense that cost this game... It WAS, ultimately, offensive misfortune, and a poor decision in a PAT situation.

I get the frustration with the apparent defensive failings... But, they were all accounted for... They played one hell of a game. No defensive adjustments were needed.
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Countertrey wrote:I get the frustration with the apparent defensive failings... But, they were all accounted for... They played one hell of a game. No defensive adjustments were needed.


That. I think for the most part the "halftime adjustments" thing is just a phrase fans use when the other team beats us.

I think it was C00ley I heard talking about this very thing on the radio the other day and how it was such an overblown complaint from fans. His point was that halftime is 12 minutes long including however many minutes it takes to jog in and out of the locker room. How much do you think is really going on during that time? Coaches are looking at plays the entire game and trying to adjust to what the other team is doing on the field.

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riggofan wrote:
Countertrey wrote:I get the frustration with the apparent defensive failings... But, they were all accounted for... They played one hell of a game. No defensive adjustments were needed.


That. I think for the most part the "halftime adjustments" thing is just a phrase fans use when the other team beats us.

I think it was C00ley I heard talking about this very thing on the radio the other day and how it was such an overblown complaint from fans. His point was that halftime is 12 minutes long including however many minutes it takes to jog in and out of the locker room. How much do you think is really going on during that time? Coaches are looking at plays the entire game and trying to adjust to what the other team is doing on the field.

Make more plays than the other team and you'll win the game.


I know I've seen us come out and try something different that was even succeeding until we shot ourselves in the foot with a penalty and/or fumble.

We can "adjust" all we want but if we jump offside, hold, fumble or otherwise eff up, it won't matter how good our adjustments are.
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Fwiw the D not only did a solid job, but the breakdown of plays were not even a "prevent" D
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