HalfTime Adjustments

[oj]

I don't see any significant halftime adjusting happening. The come out and play another 2 quarters trying to do what they couldn't in the first 2 quarters. It was obvious in the Atlanta game, Freeman ran thru the same hole in the 2nd half and Morris tried to run thru the same nonhole with the same result. What gives?

[HEROHAMO]

I think this can be helped if they let Kirk make on field adjustments. If Kirk sees an opportunity let him make the audible on the field.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I don't see any significant halftime adjusting happening. The come out and play another 2 quarters trying to do what they couldn't in the first 2 quarters. It was obvious in the Atlanta game, Freeman ran thru the same hole in the 2nd half and Morris tried to run thru the same nonhole with the same result. What gives?

Trent Murphy got destroyed in the run game. They just kept running it right at him. He was completely overmatched by their left tackle.

Defensively they were stacking eight or nine in the box because they knew our offense was going to be running the football and short passes. They had absolutely no concern about being beat deep for a big play because we had no big play weapon (don't tell me they were scared of Grant) and, even more obviously, no scheme designed to score quickly. We have a deliberate, plodding offensive scheme designed to gain short chunks of yardage and eat clock. Everyone knows it. This is the NFL. We had better start demonstrating an ability to score quickly or gain huge yardage on a big play every so often or teams will simply shut down our running game and rely on our offense scoring 19 points, a figure any decent NFL team can top.

[DEHog]

I don't see any significant halftime adjusting happening. The come out and play another 2 quarters trying to do what they couldn't in the first 2 quarters. It was obvious in the Atlanta game, Freeman ran thru the same hole in the 2nd half and Morris tried to run thru the same nonhole with the same result. What gives?

Trent Murphy got destroyed in the run game. They just kept running it right at him. He was completely overmatched by their left tackle.

Defensively they were stacking eight or nine in the box because they knew our offense was going to be running the football and short passes. They had absolutely no concern about being beat deep for a big play because we had no big play weapon (don't tell me they were scared of Grant) and, even more obviously, no scheme designed to score quickly. We have a deliberate, plodding offensive scheme designed to gain short chunks of yardage and eat clock. Everyone knows it. This is the NFL. We had better start demonstrating an ability to score quickly or gain huge yardage on a big play every so often or teams will simply shut down our running game and rely on our offense scoring 19 points, a figure any decent NFL team can top.

Yep...I said this in another thread...Robinson wasn't much better. I don't know about halftime adjustments but they better make some in between games adjustments. With the Jets up next, they will be doing the same thing. They have a great secondary so we are going to see 7 or 8 in the box all day. They have a pretty good running game as well!!

[SkinsJock]

we have a group of players and coaches that were predicted to be picking in the top 3 in the draft in 2016 and we have a record of 2-3 and we could very easily be 4-1 or even 5-0 and we're criticizing how we're adjusting

we just held a very good offensive team with quite possibly the best WR in the NFL to 19 points over 60 minutes

yes it would be nice to score some more and yes it would be nice to play a bit better defensively but we're 5 games into the season and things are looking pretty damned good compared to what many with any sense were expecting here

[SkinsJock]

I think this can be helped if they let Kirk make on field adjustments. If Kirk sees an opportunity let him make the audible on the field.

+1 - I'm not sure if it's a lack of confidence on Captain Kirk's part or the coaches part OR the play calling is very conservative because they want to play like that - I feel we need to be more patient with the run game because at this time without DeSean, those 3 RBs are a force for the offense and will only help Captain Kirk in the passing game - saying you have to pass when the defense is stacking the box is a luxury that offenses with very good QBs can do - we do not have that type of QB - yes, he should be allowed to audible but also keep pounding the rock and sooner or later we'll break a good run or we just might hit on a pass with a lot of yards after the catch



we're playing a lot better overall than we expected - IMO, we're looking for a lot more than these guys are capable of

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I think this can be helped if they let Kirk make on field adjustments. If Kirk sees an opportunity let him make the audible on the field.

+1 - I'm not sure if it's a lack of confidence on Captain Kirk's part or the coaches part OR the play calling is very conservative because they want to play like that - I feel we need to be more patient with the run game because at this time without DeSean, those 3 RBs are a force for the offense and will only help Captain Kirk in the passing game - saying you have to pass when the defense is stacking the box is a luxury that offenses with very good QBs can do - we do not have that type of QB - yes, he should be allowed to audible but also keep pounding the rock and sooner or later we'll break a good run or we just might hit on a pass with a lot of yards after the catch



we're playing a lot better overall than we expected - IMO, we're looking for a lot more than these guys are capable of

What does Kirk have to do with running the football and stopping the run?

[PulpExposure]

I don't see any significant halftime adjusting happening. The come out and play another 2 quarters trying to do what they couldn't in the first 2 quarters. It was obvious in the Atlanta game, Freeman ran thru the same hole in the 2nd half and Morris tried to run thru the same nonhole with the same result. What gives?

Trent Murphy got destroyed in the run game. They just kept running it right at him. He was completely overmatched by their left tackle.

Defensively they were stacking eight or nine in the box because they knew our offense was going to be running the football and short passes. They had absolutely no concern about being beat deep for a big play because we had no big play weapon (don't tell me they were scared of Grant) and, even more obviously, no scheme designed to score quickly. We have a deliberate, plodding offensive scheme designed to gain short chunks of yardage and eat clock. Everyone knows it. This is the NFL. We had better start demonstrating an ability to score quickly or gain huge yardage on a big play every so often or teams will simply shut down our running game and rely on our offense scoring 19 points, a figure any decent NFL team can top.

Completely agree. Drives me crazy to have such a plodding offense...you absolutely DO need some kind of verticality to an offense in the NFL.

I do wonder how much relates to Cousins versus how the offense is designed. Is it designed to be all short passes, or does Cousins just pick the shorter routes? He's next to last in yards per completion (at 9.7). I don't recall him throwing deep (except those missed passes to Reed against the Giants), so maybe it's the offense? Or maybe he just doesn't challenge the whole field?

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I don't see any significant halftime adjusting happening. The come out and play another 2 quarters trying to do what they couldn't in the first 2 quarters. It was obvious in the Atlanta game, Freeman ran thru the same hole in the 2nd half and Morris tried to run thru the same nonhole with the same result. What gives?

Trent Murphy got destroyed in the run game. They just kept running it right at him. He was completely overmatched by their left tackle.

Defensively they were stacking eight or nine in the box because they knew our offense was going to be running the football and short passes. They had absolutely no concern about being beat deep for a big play because we had no big play weapon (don't tell me they were scared of Grant) and, even more obviously, no scheme designed to score quickly. We have a deliberate, plodding offensive scheme designed to gain short chunks of yardage and eat clock. Everyone knows it. This is the NFL. We had better start demonstrating an ability to score quickly or gain huge yardage on a big play every so often or teams will simply shut down our running game and rely on our offense scoring 19 points, a figure any decent NFL team can top.

Completely agree. Drives me crazy to have such a plodding offense...you absolutely DO need some kind of verticality to an offense in the NFL.

I do wonder how much relates to Cousins versus how the offense is designed. Is it designed to be all short passes, or does Cousins just pick the shorter routes? He's next to last in yards per completion (at 9.7). I don't recall him throwing deep (except those missed passes to Reed against the Giants), so maybe it's the offense? Or maybe he just doesn't challenge the whole field?

Or maybe he just doesn't trust anyone not named Jackson or Reed to make those plays. I think he's got a bit of fear factor on hanging passes up and asking receivers to make plays. I think he's trying like hell to shed that interception reputation and perhaps being too tentative as a result. But I'm just guessing. Gruden doesn't exactly have the AJ Green / Calvin Johnson / Julio Jones type of reliable playmaker. DJax (when healthy) is an all or nothing kind of playmaker. He can lead the league in huge plays but doesn't make many in-between plays. Grant can't even run an eight step hook route without falling down.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Rob took shots deep, so it can't be the offense.
Djax is a burner but I don't buy that he is the sole reason we haven't gone deep... On the long passes I've seen Kirk attempt this year they weren't very accurate, and his arm strength seems to be lacking.
RossDaBoss is pretty Damn fast, so is Crowder.. a quick Google search reveals BOTH recorded 4.2~ 40s. Ross balled out of control in preseason, is Kirks noodle injured?

*Djax recorded a 4.35 40

[PulpExposure]

Or maybe he just doesn't trust anyone not named Jackson or Reed to make those plays. I think he's got a bit of fear factor on hanging passes up and asking receivers to make plays. I think he's trying like hell to shed that interception reputation and perhaps being too tentative as a result. But I'm just guessing. Gruden doesn't exactly have the AJ Green / Calvin Johnson / Julio Jones type of reliable playmaker. DJax (when healthy) is an all or nothing kind of playmaker. He can lead the league in huge plays but doesn't make many in-between plays. Grant can't even run an eight step hook route without falling down.

It's fair, except I then see players like Riley freaking Cooper running free for long TDs. Grant isn't great, agreed, but Garcon isn't exactly chopped liver; I remember him in 2012 going deep as well. Hit him in stride and he'll run people over. Cousins seems not to be able to hit players in stride well.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

^^to this point... Has Kirk EVER hit people in stride deep?!?

I'm not in any way lobbying for a change... Just pointing out facts yall

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

It's fair, except I then see players like Riley freaking Cooper running free for long TDs. Grant isn't great, agreed, but Garcon isn't exactly chopped liver; I remember him in 2012 going deep as well. Hit him in stride and he'll run people over. Cousins seems not to be able to hit players in stride well.

Players like Cooper only run like that against bad secondaries like ours. I know that has to be the first item on Scot McCloughan's wish list, possibly even higher than quarterbacks. With any semblance of a pass defense this team would be not only competitive, but winning most of these games. I think Garcon has lost a step vertically. He's still a solid receiver and he can make a play on any catchable ball but he's also drawing double coverage since teams know the other side is no real threat.

[aswas71788]

Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.

[riggofan]

I don't see any significant halftime adjusting happening. The come out and play another 2 quarters trying to do what they couldn't in the first 2 quarters. It was obvious in the Atlanta game, Freeman ran thru the same hole in the 2nd half and Morris tried to run thru the same nonhole with the same result. What gives?

I have an issue with this complaint about halftime adjustments. How many games this season have we been leading at halftime? Four of them? So if your opponent isn't beating you, what exactly are you adjusting to?

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.

I think his arm is fine. It isn't Brett Favre or John Elway but it isn't bad either. On this play he's standing at his own 45 yard line and gets the ball into the end zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMpPY-5MLuw

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.

Touch on the deep ball, or presence of the deep ball even; has never been his strong suit. After last week's game I'm struggling to even give him a "strong suit"... Smmfh

[riggofan]

Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.

I don't think that is true at all. You can pull up any of his old draft reports from NFL.com or wherever. You'll find stuff like this: "While his decision making is a question mark, Cousins' arm strength is not. He has very good velocity and can spin the ball down the field."

The criticism - even back in the draft - has been that he's not especially accurate on the deep balls. I think that's fair to say, yeah?

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.

I think his arm is fine. It isn't Brett Favre or John Elway but it isn't bad either. On this play he's standing at his own 45 yard line and gets the ball into the end zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMpPY-5MLuw

I laughingly thought this better be from this year... Much less last year.. Much MUCH less 2005.. lmmfao a collage pass?!? Gtfoh!!

*aaaaand it was short! Smmfh yo that made me laugh, thanks bro!

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.

I don't think that is true at all. You can pull up any of his old draft reports from NFL.com or wherever. You'll find stuff like this: "While his decision making is a question mark, Cousins' arm strength is not. He has very good velocity and can spin the ball down the field."

The criticism - even back in the draft - has been that he's not especially accurate on the deep balls. I think that's fair to say, yeah?

I've said it before, but that arm strength is definitely lacking this year, thus far. Idk if it's his mechanics, or if he is trying to put more touch less heat... But his arm has been noodle-ish all year, save maybe preseason? I ant recall , but the last two weeks had me wondering if he has been missing out on some nutrients or something.. weak lookin, and the puke fans around me always point it out too

[DEHog]

I don't see any significant halftime adjusting happening. The come out and play another 2 quarters trying to do what they couldn't in the first 2 quarters. It was obvious in the Atlanta game, Freeman ran thru the same hole in the 2nd half and Morris tried to run thru the same nonhole with the same result. What gives?

I have an issue with this complaint about halftime adjustments. How many games this season have we been leading at halftime? Four of them? So if your opponent isn't beating you, what exactly are you adjusting to?

When we (our coaching staff where I coach) come in at halftime it doesn’t matter what the score is, we get (from our coaches in the box) what is working against us(what plays,formations, players etc...) and we try to correct that at halftime.

[DEHog]

Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.

I don't think that is true at all. You can pull up any of his old draft reports from NFL.com or wherever. You'll find stuff like this: "While his decision making is a question mark, Cousins' arm strength is not. He has very good velocity and can spin the ball down the field."

The criticism - even back in the draft - has been that he's not especially accurate on the deep balls. I think that's fair to say, yeah?

The 81 yarder to Jackson (vs. the Eagles last year) was perfect....So I know he can make those throws??

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Something I have read often is that Cousins does not have a great passing arm. we have seen him throw long on some occasions but those passes have, for the most part, been incomplete. I think our passing game is geared to his lack of arm strength.

I think his arm is fine. It isn't Brett Favre or John Elway but it isn't bad either. On this play he's standing at his own 45 yard line and gets the ball into the end zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMpPY-5MLuw

I laughingly thought this better be from this year... Much less last year.. Much MUCH less 2005.. lmmfao a collage pass?!? Gtfoh!!

*aaaaand it was short! Smmfh yo that made me laugh, thanks bro!

I don't care if it was on a sand lot. He threw the ball about 57 yards in the air. That's plenty of arm strength for any NFL receiving route.

[Deadskins]

we have a record of 2-3 and we could very easily be 4-1 or even 5-0 and we're criticizing how we're adjusting

Yes. If we made better adjustments, then maybe we would be 4-1 or even 5-0.

[SkinsJock]

^^ - good point JSPB .......... then again, I doubt that anything would be very different ... we are who we are ...

the evaluations of players and coaching continues .................

I'm liking what we've seen from Joe Berry and Bill Callahan ....