what's up with Trent Murphy?
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what's up with Trent Murphy?
Curious what you guys think is going on with Trent Murphy? Haven't seen much out of him so far this season, and the team was kind of hyping him up earlier.
Jason Reid has been telling this story on 980 lately. He says he spoke with a defensive coach last year (who is not with the team anymore) who told him "Trent Murphy can't play". Reid says his response was, "What do you mean he can't play? He's your second round pick." Apparently the coach said, he's too slow and can't get to the quarterback. Said something to the effect of "Wait nine months and you'll see him on the bench".
I know some people will doubt the source, but I don't think Reid just completely makes these stories up. I also remember a lot of posters here were critical of the Murphy pick last year. Just curious:
1) Whether you believe the story or not, does it look like there is any truth to the criticism?
2) If Murphy really can't replace Orakpo at all, then WTF is up with Bruce Allen??? Amerson and Murphy? Is this like Vinny all over?
Jason Reid has been telling this story on 980 lately. He says he spoke with a defensive coach last year (who is not with the team anymore) who told him "Trent Murphy can't play". Reid says his response was, "What do you mean he can't play? He's your second round pick." Apparently the coach said, he's too slow and can't get to the quarterback. Said something to the effect of "Wait nine months and you'll see him on the bench".
I know some people will doubt the source, but I don't think Reid just completely makes these stories up. I also remember a lot of posters here were critical of the Murphy pick last year. Just curious:
1) Whether you believe the story or not, does it look like there is any truth to the criticism?
2) If Murphy really can't replace Orakpo at all, then WTF is up with Bruce Allen??? Amerson and Murphy? Is this like Vinny all over?
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
I think Murphy would have been a situational player had Junior Galette not torn his ACL. I think the team spent most of the off-season looking for an upgrade at the position. I think Murphy's ceiling is limited.
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:I think Murphy would have been a situational player had Junior Galette not torn his ACL. I think the team spent most of the off-season looking for an upgrade at the position. I think Murphy's ceiling is limited.
No doubt about that, re:Galette. Maybe just too much to hope for to get a legit starter at OLB in the second round?
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riggofan wrote:Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:I think Murphy would have been a situational player had Junior Galette not torn his ACL. I think the team spent most of the off-season looking for an upgrade at the position. I think Murphy's ceiling is limited.
No doubt about that, re:Galette. Maybe just too much to hope for to get a legit starter at OLB in the second round?
I think, for the most part, you get what you pay for with pass rushing linebackers. A quick glance at the draft history of linebackers says you don;t get much pass rushing value after the first round.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldr ... e=position
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
riggofan wrote:If Murphy really can't replace Orakpo at all, then WTF is up with Bruce Allen??? Amerson and Murphy? Is this like Vinny all over?
Maybe, but Scot's in charge now, so don't sweat it too bad.
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
I'm curious to the decline in BOTH of or olbs.. KerrigN has been pretty quite through three games as well. Hope our pass rush can step it up a notch, the interior linemen have been playing well enough you'd think the outside rushers would be getting home more often
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
Preston Smith has looked very good getting after the QB. Why hasnt he had more reps?
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
HEROHAMO wrote:Preston Smith has looked very good getting after the QB. Why hasnt he had more reps?
I heard C00ley comment on him yesterday on the radio, and he was pretty much like "meh" on Preston Smith. Said he hadn't done much to impress yet. He had the strip/fumble but that was taking advantage of a play that Hatcher created.
Wasn't down on Smith, but seemed to be saying he was still a rookie learning the ropes.
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
To me it looks like he gets caught in no-mans land often. Not quite dropping back far enough to get into proper pass protection, or never quite getting to the QB when he rushes. Believing that Preston Smith will be getting more playing time soon. Maybe he can at least get to the QB.
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
I've wondered if Murphy wouldn't be a really good DE if he gained 25-30 more lbs. He's got he frame. He's certainly quick enough and strong enough for that.
Not worried about Smirh. He's learning. Will be better later this year and beyond.
Not worried about Smirh. He's learning. Will be better later this year and beyond.
Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
fredp45 wrote:I've wondered if Murphy wouldn't be a really good DE if he gained 25-30 more lbs. He's got he frame. He's certainly quick enough and strong enough for that.
Not worried about Smirh. He's learning. Will be better later this year and beyond.
He'd need more than that for 3/4 DE. I doubt he could carry that without losing a lot of quickness.
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#93 showed up today when we needed it most.
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:#93 showed up today when we needed it most.
That's for damn sure. Glad to see it today!
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Amen to that!!
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
Had to DVR the game... Just finished... This thread was the first thing I thought of!
Guess we have our answer... Murphy is the closer...
Guess we have our answer... Murphy is the closer...
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
Trent is a backup... That's what happened to Trent.
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Re: what's up with Trent Murphy?
Murphy had a great game yesterday kudos!