Carriker..and...Orakpo BOTH are OUT for the SEASON

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:51 pm

Well, let's see what Jarvis can do...

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:59 pm

UK Skins Fan wrote:
cleg wrote:Were we wining the Super Bowl this year with a rookie QB? No. Was this season always about watching our young franchise QB develop and hopefully be in line for Super Bowl runs 2-3 years from now? Yes. It is a shame about Rak and Adam but their injuries do not change the above statements one bit.
Leaving aside the fact that every season should be about winning as many games as possible rather than the development of one single player (no matter how promising), you're taking the view that RGIII's development can't be impacted at all by the performance of the rest of the team?

A solid defence would surely be a great help in allowing RGIII to develop rather than playing catch up games every week, desperately trying to keep pace with the opposition whilst the defence performs like a limp lettuce.

Of course, a solid rebuttal to that argument would be that Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman developed very nicely whilst playing their rookie seasons on abysmal teams and getting knocked all over the field. But they are exceptions to the rule - which RGIII may also prove to be over time.

Just trying to take the advice of your countryman and "always look on the bright side of life..."

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:06 pm

things just got more interesting to say the least

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:08 pm

Really sucks for Rak. I'm bummed that we won't get to see him tearing it up this season!!!

I didn't realize ours was the only team in the league to lose stud players during the season though. Sucks for us.

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:27 pm

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:Well, I guess that pretty much puts a wrap on the season now, doesn't it? We've got a Defensive Backfield that most high school kids could have a field-day throwing against and now two of our major pass-rushers are gone for the season. Combine that with a Defensive Coordinator who's got his head firmly entrenched between his butt cheeks and this Defense is pretty much toast.

wow...it's like that, Huh? Are you a fan or what???

NEXT MAN UP........THIS IS THE N.OT.....F.OR......L.ONG......!!!

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:29 pm

1niksder wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
Redskins_Fanatic wrote:Well, I guess that pretty much puts a wrap on the season now, doesn't it? We've got a Defensive Backfield that most high school kids could have a field-day throwing against and now two of our major pass-rushers are gone for the season. Combine that with a Defensive Coordinator who's got his head firmly entrenched between his butt cheeks and this Defense is pretty much toast.
Yes indeed. You can hand in your Redskins cap now. The world has come to an end.
Didn't he leave, saying he would never return almost a year ago? I just can't amagine he took his Redskins cap with him back then.

i dont get it..........BUT OK

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:30 pm

1niksder wrote:Mike Shanahan said Jarvis Jenkins will replace Adam Carriker at LDE. Kedric Golston and Doug Worthington will play bigger roles, too.

Now Jenkins MUST STEP UP....!!!

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:45 pm

cleg wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
cleg wrote:Were we wining the Super Bowl this year with a rookie QB? No. Was this season always about watching our young franchise QB develop and hopefully be in line for Super Bowl runs 2-3 years from now? Yes. It is a shame about Rak and Adam but their injuries do not change the above statements one bit.
Leaving aside the fact that every season should be about winning as many games as possible rather than the development of one single player (no matter how promising), you're taking the view that RGIII's development can't be impacted at all by the performance of the rest of the team?

A solid defence would surely be a great help in allowing RGIII to develop rather than playing catch up games every week, desperately trying to keep pace with the opposition whilst the defence performs like a limp lettuce.

Of course, a solid rebuttal to that argument would be that Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman developed very nicely whilst playing their rookie seasons on abysmal teams and getting knocked all over the field. But they are exceptions to the rule - which RGIII may also prove to be over time.
Just trying to take the advice of your countryman and "always look on the bright side of life..."

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:05 pm

1niksder wrote:Mike Shanahan: "Adam will be gone for the season. He had a quad-tendon tear at the base of the knee. There will be a 5 month recovery time."

Did he say what Brian's injury was?

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:08 pm

Losing both Carriker and Rak is a huge blow obviously.

However I do think we can plug in Jenakins and I hope Wilson fills in as OLB. I have always liked the way Wilson got after the QB. I have always wanted him to get more playing time. So I guess now is the oppurtunity.

Probably have to move Kerrigan to the other side? Oh well press on! Bring on the Bengals!!!!

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:12 pm

Am I a bad fan if I admit that while I appreciate Orakpo's talent I always found him a tad overrated and unable to adjust to what the opposition would do to take him out of the game? Just seems like he has the skills to be DOMINATE but never quite made the leap.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:35 pm

cleg wrote:Am I a bad fan if I admit that while I appreciate Orakpo's talent I always found him a tad overrated and unable to adjust to what the opposition would do to take him out of the game? Just seems like he has the skills to be DOMINATE but never quite made the leap.

Welll... except for the FACT that he tore up the Saint's last week, and was on it again yesterday...

I know... that's inconvenient...

fetus · Post by **fetus** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:35 pm

So I'm super depressed about raq... And was thinking.... Are we going to resign him after all this?

Thoughts?

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:43 pm

cleg wrote:Am I a bad fan if I admit that while I appreciate Orakpo's talent I always found him a tad overrated and unable to adjust to what the opposition would do to take him out of the game? Just seems like he has the skills to be DOMINATE but never quite made the leap.

I 2nd that emotion..........

TimSkin · Post by **TimSkin** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:20 pm

This shows you here just how much we might miss Rak:

"Just how big of a loss is Orakpo to the Redskins pass rush? With him on the field since 2009, the Redskins sacked opposing quarterbacks on 6.4 percent of dropbacks, which ranked in the top 10 in the NFL. With Orakpo off the field, that same pass rush sacked quarterbacks at a rate which would have put them 2nd to last over that same span. Ouch."

Boy I really hope Jackson and Wilson can step it up cuz we need that pass rush immensely

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/wsh/ ... n-redskins

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:21 pm

Really sucks to be down 2 stud players, but this will give Chris Wilson or Jackson a chance to flash their skills. I have been a fan of Wilson since years past.

Maybe Jenkins or Baker or someone from practice squad can fill in.

A BIG CONCERN is the 2ndary.

Are there any free agent CBs or Safeties out there....???

the poster · Post by **the poster** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:45 pm

gee, tied for last already and their best player on offense is out and their best player on defense is out for the season. plus other injuries.

yep, they're right where they always are. as i predicted. which, admittedly, is always easy when your talking about the washington redskins.

tough break, skins fans. better luck next year, hopefully those rams wont be on your schedule yet again. of course, they have your first round pick, too, so they're quite happy.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:46 pm

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Scroll to the troll.
Scroll to the troll.
SCROLL TO THE TROLL!

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:58 pm

the poster wrote:gee, tied for last already and their best player on offense is out and their best player on defense is out for the season. plus other injuries.

yep, they're right where they always are. as i predicted. which, admittedly, is always easy when your talking about the washington redskins.

tough break, skins fans. better luck next year, hopefully those rams wont be on your schedule yet again. of course, they have your first round pick, too, so they're quite happy.

You're such a tool man..
Come into smack and let's have a chat homie. What useful insight do you think your providing us? You join a redskins forum and waste your time posting your ignorant bias slop... Hoping someone looses it and calls you what u are so u can cry to the mods. It's called attention whoring. Like parez Hilton. Lame. Worthless.

You provide nothing to this forum, and probably nothing to this world. Your not even a rival fan; your way of not getting attacked back right? If your not a fan of our team, or our league for that matter, wtf are you doing here? Do us a favor and leave, or start a thread and ONLY post in it. Having to skip over your filth is a pita and the trash you post is clogging up our threads.

Final response. We are redskins fans doode.. we sure as F know how we've suckd the last two decades. And ftr our best player on O is RGiii and Rak certainly isn't the best much less best pass rusher. Kerrigan will be/is better already...

You'd probably fit in a lot better on a puke forum

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:01 pm

the poster wrote:gee, tied for last already and their best player on offense is out and their best player on defense is out for the season. plus other injuries.

yep, they're right where they always are. as i predicted. which, admittedly, is always easy when your talking about the washington redskins.

tough break, skins fans. better luck next year, hopefully those rams wont be on your schedule yet again. of course, they have your first round pick, too, so they're quite happy.

Go Away Troll….!!!

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:30 am

Deadskins wrote:
1niksder wrote:Mike Shanahan: "Adam will be gone for the season. He had a quad-tendon tear at the base of the knee. There will be a 5 month recovery time."
Did he say what Brian's injury was?

Well?

FanofallthatisGibbs · Post by **FanofallthatisGibbs** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:11 am

I understood that he re-tore the pectoral muscle. It was aggravated in the preseason, and it seems the weakened muscle lost it again Sunday. It's bad enough he suffered this injury once, but when you have the injury recur, the likelihood of this being a nagging problem for him the rest of his career is very high. I am sick for him - such a waste of a great player and teammate.

The curse is still on. Jack Kent Cooke is still pissed from what has happened to his franchise under Dan Snyder. I am convinced of this more than ever.

Solution - new stadium in DC with the name Jack Kent Cooke stadium (NOT FedEx PLEASE) and the curse will be lifted. Until then, not feeling so good.

Tired of injuries year in, year out. Most teams don't deal with this many injuries to key players, and if they do, it's a one year thing and they move on. No matter with the Redskins it's always like the floodgates open up. I used to think it was the strength & conditioning coaches, but I don't even buy that anymore. It's something supernatural at this point.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:21 am

I might believe we are cursed, but I don't think it has anything to do with JKC Vs. The Danny. Maybe FedEX is on a sacred Indian burial ground.

TimSkin · Post by **TimSkin** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:49 am

FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:I understood that he re-tore the pectoral muscle. It was aggravated in the preseason, and it seems the weakened muscle lost it again Sunday. It's bad enough he suffered this injury once, but when you have the injury recur, the likelihood of this being a nagging problem for him the rest of his career is very high. I am sick for him - such a waste of a great player and teammate.

The curse is still on. Jack Kent Cooke is still pissed from what has happened to his franchise under Dan Snyder. I am convinced of this more than ever.

Solution - new stadium in DC with the name Jack Kent Cooke stadium (NOT FedEx PLEASE) and the curse will be lifted. Until then, not feeling so good.

Tired of injuries year in, year out. Most teams don't deal with this many injuries to key players, and if they do, it's a one year thing and they move on. No matter with the Redskins it's always like the floodgates open up. I used to think it was the strength & conditioning coaches, but I don't even buy that anymore. It's something supernatural at this point.

From what I read(sorry no link but I'm pretty sure Shanny said it) he did tear the pec muscle but it was a different part of the muscle than what he tore before. I'm sure it had something to do with the old injury but it wasn't the same tear

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:36 am

Bad situation, but a curse? LMAO