Redskins-Eagles postgame thread

[Redskin in Canada]

Good Rex ...

Bad Rex ...

Terrible Rex ...

Backup Rex ...

Predictable. Very predictable.

[SkinsJock]

well put RiC

there was ample evidence this season to try Beck and a case could be made that we should have used the bye week to get Beck ready - I TOTALLY disagree - we might still have lost and would be second guessing Kyle & Mike

Now we have the reality - Beck can be the QB - were still just 8-8 or maybe 9-7

we were NOT going to win 10 or more games this year unless the other teams were all going to play badly - NOT happening

I'm glad that Beck is the QB but we are not a much better team with Beck

- WHY would you plan for and have Rex pass the ball so much - NOTHING good happens when Rex tries to throw the ball - EVERYBODY knows this
- WHY would you game plan (OR play call) a pass on obvious passing downs
- we MUST NOT PASS - RUN THE BALL - NOTHING good happens when Rex tries to throw the ball - EVERYBODY knows this

Rex did what he does BUT Kyle & Mike KNOW this


btw - I listened to the first 10 minutes of the game - better coverage
- Sonny was beside himself on the pass inteference call (Orakpo) - should have been a safety as he was throwing the ball away
- Huff said this is what Vick was hoping for when he complained about the hits - Sam said it was a stupid call by the ref, but the call the NFL wanted
- Doc Walker reported from the sidelines that the Redskins players were really pissed off about the cheap shots that the eagles defense were using that resulted in Kory being hurt - Doc said the Redskins players went to their position coaches and asked them to help them get revenge - this was NEVER mentioned on TV - I don't think they even noticed the cheap blocks


we are still going 8-8 (or maybe even 9-7)

we were NOT going to have a better chance at success with Grossman

they could NOT have replaced Grossman BEFORE the game but they should have made the switch MUCH sooner during this game

the offensive game calling needs to CHANGE also - c'mon guys

[DarthMonk]

Welch, this game started with our D stopping their O

Yes. 3 and out and looked good doing it.

and Banks returning a punt for next to nothing and getting a facemask 15 yeard penalty that set us up withgreat field position. We totally squandered the opportunity. Grossman interception. This would prove to be the stroy of the game - No Offense!

Absolutely right.

Grossman's first INT, put the Eagles on their own 1,

We should have challenged pick. Replay clearly shows lack of control on impact.

but the first of two crucial 15 yard penalties put the ball on their own 16 to start the drive. After no gain on first down, on second down, the center hiked the ball over Vick's head into the end zone, Rak, who was in coverage, left his man and went after Vick who was having trouble picking up the ball in the end zone. Vick flings the ball out of bounds, possibly intentional grounding in the end zone, but no - Rak is called for roughing the passer - I hear it was a helmet blow, but I was at the game and could not tell by the replays at the game. Instead of third and 10 from their 16, they are given a 1st at their 31.

I know some will disagree but a horrible call. No helmet to helmet. Airborne players simply hit him on release. He was in the pocket in the endzone. Clear grounding. Safety. 2-0 us and catching a punt near midfield.

They took the ball down the field to score a TD and the flood gates opened up temporarily.

Which is ultimately why we can't blame refs though they were horrible.

The seond and third series of this game set the tone for way that this game was to go the rest of the way until Beck came into the game.

Yes.

Welch, in my opinon, the team that showed up today is the same that showed up in the past 4 games. This team could not run against the Giants and Cowboys - The D played well in those games. In the Giant, game, this team got help from the O (Grossman 110 QB rating) and the D made a key play for the win. In the Cowboy game, this team got a little help from the O and a little hurt. D never gave up a TD. Offense did not do enough - 16 points. In the Card game, we got a lot of help from the O and a lot of hurt. This should have been a blow out, but O mistakes kept it close. In the Rams game, we got a lot of help from the O and a lot of hurt. In the Philly game, we got a no help (until Beck) and a ton of hurt by the O.

Precisely.

The D played well in four games and considering how much hurt and how little help they got from the O, they played well in the Philly game - Only giving up 20 points when we gave up 4 turnovers and shutting out the Eagles in the second half was playing well enough to be an Offense that no team has stopped this year. The D produced two key interceptions, but the O could do nothing.

Precisely.

The big play is still plaguing this team's defense - Cards big first down runs and big pass plays. Giants big pass play. Cowboys big runs. Philly big runs. Despite giving up the big plays in all these games, the D, including today, has kept us in all of the games

In other words, the sluggish O caught up to us. Shanny said last night on his show, we have to keep Vick off the field. The best way to do that is offense keep the ball - it didn't happen. Vick had the ball all day except when he got clobbered by Dirty 30.

The D definitely did its job except for breaking up a few long ones and then having an empty tank for the reasons you cite.

Beck didn't come in and light things up - he missed on passes, but his passes that he missed were - oh so close (some were drops). He did scramble 12 yards for a first down. Ran a QB draw for TD. Executed the bootleg like it is supposed to be run. He clearly has a stronger arm that Grossman. He hit Austin with a lazer strike to the goal line to set up his TD. Beck will allow Kyle to run plays that he couldn't with Grossman.
Hopefully, the change at QB will be made - it is time.

Beck just might be the spark to get this O moving in the right direction.

At least Dallas lost.

DarthMonk

[CanesSkins26]

We should have challenged pick. Replay clearly shows lack of control on impact.

And what would that have accomplished? It was 3rd and long and we were out of field goal range, plus the Eagles got 15 additional yards on the Trent Williams fumble. Even with the int and the penalty the Eagles still were inside their own 20. No sense in risking a challenge/timeout there just to get a chance to punt and possibly pin them deeper inside their own 20.

[CanesSkins26]

WHY would you plan for and have Rex pass the ball so much - NOTHING good happens when Rex tries to throw the ball - EVERYBODY knows this
- WHY would you game plan (OR play call) a pass on obvious passing downs
- we MUST NOT PASS - RUN THE BALL - NOTHING good happens when Rex tries to throw the ball - EVERYBODY knows this

The Eagles were stacking the box daring Rex to beat them. It's nice to say "run the ball", but if a team has no respect for your passing game and is stacking the box it's going to be very difficult to try and run the ball. We also got down very early in that game and committed a lot of penalties, which also makes it difficult to run the football.

On our first 3 series we ran 13 offensive plays (one of which was negated due to a holding penalty on a run play) and we threw the ball 7 times and ran it 6 times. By the time we got the ball back for our 4th possession we were already down 17-0. That 4th possession started off with a Rex int and the Eagles added on a FG to go up 20-0. We next got the ball back with just over 2 minutes to go and ran a hurry up offense, which of course is going to lead to more passes.

The point is that we tried to run the ball early. On our first 3 possessions it was almost a 50/50 run pass split. But we got down big and that tends to change the game plan.

[DarthMonk]

We should have challenged pick. Replay clearly shows lack of control on impact.

And what would that have accomplished?

Absolutely nothing. Give Sav a chance to punt I guess.

It was 3rd and long and we were out of field goal range, plus the Eagles got 15 additional yards on the Trent Williams fumble. Even with the int and the penalty the Eagles still were inside their own 20. No sense in risking a challenge/timeout there just to get a chance to punt and possibly pin them deeper inside their own 20.

DarthMonk

[DarthMonk]

... plus the Eagles got 15 additional yards on the Trent Williams fumble.

???

DarthMonk

[absinthe1023]

The Eagles only had to play one decent half to win this game, and it seems like they knew it. The Redskins do not have a starting caliber QB on the roster. Not one. This is the overriding reason why, despite Vick/Young's INTs and poor playcalling by Reid/Mornhinweg, the 'Skins never really had a chance.

No team can compete in this league without a very good QB, and the 'Skins, as above, don't even have an average one.

Here's what needs to happen:

This season is now an 11 game preseason. Use it to evaluate young players, particularly at WR to assess who has trade value. Bring in FA offensive linemen with the goal of finding decent depth. Let Beck audition for the role of placeholder/eventual backup for the new QB (see below).

Cut Grossman. He is an embarrassment and has absolutely no value. Use his roster spot for the best FA/practice squad offensive lineman available.

Mike Shanahan needs to identify his QB of choice in next year's draft, assess what is needed to obtain that player, and obtain that player at any cost.

Allow Trent Williams to get healthy. Do not rush him back. As above, sign FA OLs throughout the season and identify 1 or 2 quality backups. Finding a starter would be a huge, huge bonus.

Fire Kyle Shanahan (after the season) or at least reduce his playcalling responsibilities during the season. His lack of commitment to the run is hurting this team. Apparently, he still thinks he's the offensive coordinator for the Texans. He has consistently failed to realize that his QB (Beck, Grossman, or whoever) is not Matt Schaub, none of his receivers is Andre Johnson, and he can't call 40+ pass plays every game and expect to win. Tailor your system to the "talent" you have or get canned.

[CanesSkins26]

... plus the Eagles got 15 additional yards on the Trent Williams fumble.

???

DarthMonk

Hahaha oops. Meant "penalty".

[RayNAustin]

Well, for what it's worth .... if you have P. Manning or Brady or Rogers or Brees as your QB .... you can get away with a 75% - 25% pass/run imbalance, but if your QB is named Grossman or Beck, you just can't do it and expect to win. It's as simple as that.

As for the defense, I believe they played extremely well under the circumstances, given how long they spent on the field in the first half, their second half performance was lights out, and you couldn't ask for anything more ... NO POINTS. With the offense converting only 1 3rd down out of 10, and 4 interceptions, the defense was constantly under pressure and going against a top 5 offense, holding them to 20 points is a very good day. In spite of all of the offensive blunders, the defense kept the game from becoming a blow out, giving the Redskins a chance to get back into the game.

Offensively, well, horrible doesn't quite describe it, and it wasn't just Grossman (though he was pathetic). One int should have been caught by Davis ... that was a catchable ball and we just don't have a single receiver on this team that can go up high and come down with those types of balls.

But the combination of Rex's inability to differentiate between burgundy and green, and Kyle Shanahan's loathing of the run game is a killer combination. You cannot throw, throw, throw, run, throw throw, throw, run. This pattern was something that occurred quite often last year too ... and this year ... we're 3-0 with a 47+% run average, and 0-2 with a 30-% run ratio. So in my opinion, Kyle Shanahan is as much responsible for our offensive problems as is Grossman. You cannot hand the ball off 12 times in a game and win with the guys we have throwing and catching the ball.

And, I don't buy the excuse that because Philly jumped out to a quick lead, that forced us to abandon the run game .... they got the quick lead because this offense is being called like some kid playing Madden football, totally predictable, and incapable of making adjustments to what the defense is doing. 9 straight failures to convert 3rd downs? Did we even convert 1 in the first half?

If I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm playing the Redskins .... I am going to play the run, knowing that all I have to do is stop the run early, and then I can focus on playing the pass the rest of the game. Kyle Shanahan is way too quick to give up on the run.

Without the Matt Shaub - Andre Johnson combo that comprised 60-70% of the Texan's offensive production when Shanahan was there .... he's mediocre AT BEST, and in no way the "Boy Genius" people make him out to be. Kyle is constantly being out coached and out strategized by opposing defenses, and I really don't see a major improvement in offensive production from the impotent days of Zorn even with addition of more talent. We still can't score points.

You have got to run the ball 40% or more based on this team's talent level at QB and receivers. We don't have a game dominating QB and down field receiver like a Calvin Johnson or an Andre Johnson ... that's a fact. So we have to run to make the passing game work, not the other way around.

With the defense playing the way they are playing ... this offense needs to pound the ball, and someone needs to real in Kyle Shanahan and inform him that we do not have Aaron Rogers or Tom Brady ... we have Rex Grossman and John Beck, neither of which are going to keep defensive coordinators up late at night.

[crazyhorse1]

Well, for what it's worth .... if you have P. Manning or Brady or Rogers or Brees as your QB .... you can get away with a 75% - 25% pass/run imbalance, but if your QB is named Grossman or Beck, you just can't do it and expect to win. It's as simple as that.

As for the defense, I believe they played extremely well under the circumstances, given how long they spent on the field in the first half, their second half performance was lights out, and you couldn't ask for anything more ... NO POINTS. With the offense converting only 1 3rd down out of 10, and 4 interceptions, the defense was constantly under pressure and going against a top 5 offense, holding them to 20 points is a very good day. In spite of all of the offensive blunders, the defense kept the game from becoming a blow out, giving the Redskins a chance to get back into the game.

Offensively, well, horrible doesn't quite describe it, and it wasn't just Grossman (though he was pathetic). One int should have been caught by Davis ... that was a catchable ball and we just don't have a single receiver on this team that can go up high and come down with those types of balls.

But the combination of Rex's inability to differentiate between burgundy and green, and Kyle Shanahan's loathing of the run game is a killer combination. You cannot throw, throw, throw, run, throw throw, throw, run. This pattern was something that occurred quite often last year too ... and this year ... we're 3-0 with a 47+% run average, and 0-2 with a 30-% run ratio. So in my opinion, Kyle Shanahan is as much responsible for our offensive problems as is Grossman. You cannot hand the ball off 12 times in a game and win with the guys we have throwing and catching the ball.

And, I don't buy the excuse that because Philly jumped out to a quick lead, that forced us to abandon the run game .... they got the quick lead because this offense is being called like some kid playing Madden football, totally predictable, and incapable of making adjustments to what the defense is doing. 9 straight failures to convert 3rd downs? Did we even convert 1 in the first half?

If I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm playing the Redskins .... I am going to play the run, knowing that all I have to do is stop the run early, and then I can focus on playing the pass the rest of the game. Kyle Shanahan is way too quick to give up on the run.

Without the Matt Shaub - Andre Johnson combo that comprised 60-70% of the Texan's offensive production when Shanahan was there .... he's mediocre AT BEST, and in no way the "Boy Genius" people make him out to be. Kyle is constantly being out coached and out strategized by opposing defenses, and I really don't see a major improvement in offensive production from the impotent days of Zorn even with addition of more talent. We still can't score points.

You have got to run the ball 40% or more based on this team's talent level at QB and receivers. We don't have a game dominating QB and down field receiver like a Calvin Johnson or an Andre Johnson ... that's a fact. So we have to run to make the passing game work, not the other way around.

With the defense playing the way they are playing ... this offense needs to pound the ball, and someone needs to real in Kyle Shanahan and inform him that we do not have Aaron Rogers or Tom Brady ... we have Rex Grossman and John Beck, neither of which are going to keep defensive coordinators up late at night.

Just a note to tick off Banks haters. Bank had a run back of 47 yards and an
average return of 29 yards. Not a great game, but a solid one. He gave us great field position twice, once by getting a face mask call (he had found a hole) and once by a long KOR. One could point out that he, Beck, and Davis had the best games of our offensive players.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Is already been mentioned but the play calling was dictated by the game flow and how the eagles were stacking against the run. Beck made a big throw and if grossman had an arm the 3rd (?) pick was a TD. We do need those pass plays to win especially being down by twenty and the D filling the box and stuffing all run attempts. Give beck some time and I think he raises the offense on all aspects w his mobility and better arm my 2 cents. Kyle isn't to blame it just ended up quickly being a game where the defense dared gross to beat em- and on plays he could have he didn't end of story.

[roybus14]

Well folks!!!! You knew this day would come and it did. If this is the start of the down spiral of this team this season, you have to look back when the decision was made to go with Rex over Beck.

Beck positioned himself as a leader starting with the off-season workouts that he took contol over as if he was a starting QB while Rex sat at home and got fat. You knew what Rex was capable of and what he was not but you still went with him anyway.

If the idea was to go young like they did and to continue to work on bolstering the O-Line, then Beck should have been your starter. He's alot more mobile than Rex and he gives you a better shot even though you don't know about him because you knew Rex would do what he did yesterday.

If the Shanny's still think that Grossman is their guy, then this team will be what they have always been. Stop with the excuses for Rex..... "Davis should've caught that ball"....."the running game was bad and forced him to have to throw".... C'mon folks. He's got 9 years in and a SB appearance and he's still coughing it up like he's a rookie or someone in their 2nd or third year?

Drop the egos and ride Beck out until you figure out how you are going to get the O-line better to get an effective running game and get a young QB that can be developed and they can protect. If Harbaugh in SF can do it with what he's got out there, then I'm sure a 2-time SB winning Coach can (if his ego doesn't stop him).....

[roybus14]

Of, one more thing. Shanahan's assessment of Beck in the presser and why he decided to go with him. Was it another lie like last year with Donovan or was it something else?

Shanahan said that Beck had several great practices and that's part of the reason why he went with him. If Rex is the starter and is taking first team reps, how do you determine if Beck had great practices if he is running scout team for the defense?????

Just wondering........


++++Correction++++

Shanny just cleared up my question I guess in his presser just now. He said Beck look good on scout team and in his progressions. So I guess they still evaluate QBs even on scout team....

[SkinsJock]

The BIG picture people - we are now 3-2 in a season that, if it goes well, we should end up at 8-8, maybe 10-6, IF we get lucky and teams play badly against us.

We ALL know that we have issues with the offense and not just at QB but at a number of positions


The defense is playing well but the fact is you have to play every facet well - our offense AND our offensive game planning and play calling is not happening - Kyle needs to understand that we do not have much of a passing offense - there should be little to no long pass plays if Grossman is playing QB


This season should be about getting the best evaluation you can here for those players that you want to build around going forward

LET's GET REAL - we are NOT a playoff team - we might get lucky but we have to use these games to make sure we know who we're building around this coming off season - if we end up doing well, so much the better
I don't think Grossman is going to be here so ... UNLESS there is something about Beck that is not clear to us fans ...
WE NEED TO SEE BECK AT QB

[Cappster]

I cannot wait to see the responses in the Panthers post game thread if we win. They will be a complete 180 from we are not a playoff team to hells yeah we are gonna win the division!

[SkinsJock]

There are a number of posters here that have not changed their opinion of where we are as a team and what should be happening here in order for this franchise to be performing at a consistently good level

We are looking at 8-8 and always were - we are hoping we can bring in a QB that will help the offense
- that is NOT happening with either of these QBs

we just lost 1 game - we are still the same bad offense even if we had won the game

I hope we go to Beck but he is NOT going to be our future great QB - we are still the same 'bad' offense
NEITHER QB is the answer, no doubt about that


Beck will help the offense - of course, nothing matters if the play calling continues to SUCK

[roybus14]

There are a number of posters here that have not changed their opinion of where we are as a team and what should be happening here in order for this franchise to be performing at a consistently good level

We are looking at 8-8 and always were - we are hoping we can bring in a QB that will help the offense
- that is NOT happening with either of these QBs

we just lost 1 game - we are still the same bad offense even if we had won the game

I hope we go to Beck but he is NOT going to be our future great QB - we are still the same 'bad' offense
NEITHER QB is the answer, no doubt about that


Beck will help the offense - of course, nothing matters if the play calling continues to SUCK

I hear you but why do people keep saying that Beck is not the QB of the future? What is saying that if the Shanny's give this guy a true chance, why can't he be a QB of the future?? What is stopping him from becoming that? What happens if this guy gets the rest of the season and turns out to be the guy? If Rex can get nine lives, why can't Beck??

Just asking....

[markshark84]

This season is now an 11 game preseason.

Wow. We are 3-2 and all of a sudden the season is over??? Man, that is pretty insane.

And we need to evaluate our players? I think that this will happen regardless of how we treat the year. Could you imagine if the coaching staff actually took this advice???? It would be pretty ugly in DC.

Doesn't sound like you have much patience.
1. Take this one draft, find the QB you want and get him at any cost (i.e., basically trade away all your draft picks)?????
2. Fire a less than 2 year old coaching staff.
3. Determine who of our players has trade value (when you only have 5 games of performance notes to evaluate on).
4. And as far as cutting grossman, does that mean you would carry only 1 QB on the roster??? WTF?

HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING!!!! Really -- are you that thick. Have you not been around the past decade??? I literally feel like I am reading something Danny boy posted himself. This is exactly what got us into this mess.

[markshark84]

There are a number of posters here that have not changed their opinion of where we are as a team and what should be happening here in order for this franchise to be performing at a consistently good level

We are looking at 8-8 and always were - we are hoping we can bring in a QB that will help the offense
- that is NOT happening with either of these QBs

we just lost 1 game - we are still the same bad offense even if we had won the game

I hope we go to Beck but he is NOT going to be our future great QB - we are still the same 'bad' offense
NEITHER QB is the answer, no doubt about that


Beck will help the offense - of course, nothing matters if the play calling continues to SUCK

I just don't understand why people are just realizing that we are a mediocre team at best. We played very well against the NYG. That was really our only "good" game this year. We barely beat two horrendous teams in AZ and STL. We lost to Dallas in one of the worst games they have played this year and just got out played by a better Eagles team.

But I am not quite sure the playcalling is the reason for much of this -- it is the talent. We have no QB or OL -- therefore we have no offense. Honestly, who on this team (offensively) is that great??? ey is hurt. Moss is good but not elite. I would say that Moss and Trent Williams are really our only good offensive players (and Davis, I guess). That doesn't give our OC much to work with. Especially when we could easily use an upgrade at 4 of our 5 OLs spots.

Personally, I don't think Kyle called that bad of a game. The Eagles didn't give him much to work with in terms of running the ball. They stacked the box and knew that they put themselves in the best position to win by making Grossman throw the ball -- which is typically what you do with a bad QB. Based on the defense he saw, Kyle didn't have many options in terms of playcalling yesterday. It just wasn't good. If we had some talent on our offense, we could sit here and complain, but we don't.

[SkinsJock]

... why do people keep saying that Beck is not the QB of the future? What I'm saying is that if the Shanny's give this guy a true chance, why can't he be a QB of the future?? What is stopping him from becoming that? What happens if this guy gets the rest of the season and turns out to be the guy? If Rex can get nine lives, why can't Beck??

Just asking....

Mike & Kyle WOULD undoubtedly have Beck in there if they thought that Beck could not only manage this (apparently 'sophisticated') offense better AND also could possibly help in the transition to the next future great Redskins' QB

they OBVIOUSLY feel that Grossman gives them the 'best' QB ..... for now


this franchises best interests would be served by:
getting Kyle to utilize and game plan an offense better suited to his players
making Beck the starting QB - RIGHT NOW

I've got a feeling that neither will happen

[CanesSkins26]

There are a number of posters here that have not changed their opinion of where we are as a team and what should be happening here in order for this franchise to be performing at a consistently good level

We are looking at 8-8 and always were - we are hoping we can bring in a QB that will help the offense
- that is NOT happening with either of these QBs

we just lost 1 game - we are still the same bad offense even if we had won the game

I hope we go to Beck but he is NOT going to be our future great QB - we are still the same 'bad' offense
NEITHER QB is the answer, no doubt about that


Beck will help the offense - of course, nothing matters if the play calling continues to SUCK

I hear you but why do people keep saying that Beck is not the QB of the future? What is saying that if the Shanny's give this guy a true chance, why can't he be a QB of the future?? What is stopping him from becoming that? What happens if this guy gets the rest of the season and turns out to be the guy? If Rex can get nine lives, why can't Beck??

Just asking....

Well, if nothing else, Beck is already 30 years old. So if you think of the "qb of the future" as a guy that would realistically play for 2-3 years for you after this season, then yea Beck could potentially be that guy. When I think of qb of the future I think of a guy that is hopefully going to be here for long time and a guy that is going to become the face of the franchise.

Second of all, Beck hasn't been able to beat out Rex Grossman. Not exactly a positive sign for a "qb of the future." That's not to say that he can't do a good job, but we need to find ourselves a qb in next year's draft.

[SkinsJock]

That's essentially it Canes - Beck was given an opportunity earlier and apparently did not make as good an impression

let's be honest here
we hope that one of these guys can help give the next QB some time to get ready + be the backup QB

NEITHER is looking very good

we started with some issues along the O line and they just got a little worse

the next game is away or they might look at changing QB sooner

the players seem to feel that Grossman should stay


we are still an improving franchise and have some encouraging signs for the future - 8-8 or 9-7 is still doable

Kyle needs to do a MUCH better job

[mrcatwalker]

But mostly I agree with welch. I'm going to skip reading anything Skins-related this week, and just wait to see what the Skins can put together next Sunday.

You feel like I feel about the Carolina Panthers lost to the Falcon's last week. A division lost, but at least you all are on a better winning road than we are. Although we play the Skins this week, I think your team has a good shot of winning because we can't stop the run. The last 5 teams we've played had running backs that had over 100 yard games and the most was by Forte for 204 and the Saints had like 180 something.

So it's not good on the ground, so as long as the Skins keep the ball on the ground, the chances of winning greatly improves. That should make you feel better about going into the week.

[SkinsJock]

G'day and welcome to the best Redskins fan site

I understand your assessment of both the Panthers' run defense and the potential Redskins' running game - unfortunately the OC for the Redskins does not seem to want to look at the stats

we just played against a defense that was one of the worst at stopping the run and at Red Zone defense -
we can make any defense look a lot better than they are


we have some issues on the O line but I do hope that the replacements look at the opportunity and want to show that they can contribute


looking forward to seeing Cam Newton play as well