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Irn-Bru wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:And he's on a good receiver as well. You can't just count passes given up and INTs.


I look at stats that are a little more involved than that. (You make good points, though.)

See:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-a ... stats-2010

and

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player ... ngelo-hall


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This site list all credibility for me when I looked ast how it had Moss and Cooley ranked. It had Cooley as something like the 40th best TE in the league and Moss around the 60th.

Just absurd!!!
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Washington passed on the chance to sign high-profile players in free agency and instead pursued role players willing to sacrifice for the greater good. Shanahan repeatedly has stressed that this year, the Redskins’ roster comprises hungry, high-character players.


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skinsfan#33 wrote:In bru,
This site list all credibility for me when I looked ast how it had Moss and Cooley ranked. It had Cooley as something like the 40th best TE in the league and Moss around the 60th.

Just absurd!!!


It's not a site with subjective rankings. If Moss comes in as the 60th best receiver, that doesn't necessarily mean they are saying he should be drafted 60th if you were starting a new team/league.

So the stats can't be used in quite the same way a lot of people like to use them. They are measurements for very specific things (and you can find all the info for what goes into them on the site).
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jeremyroyce wrote:Why does Hall need to recreate this mess regarding Big Albert? There is no doubt that Big Albert was a boob, but I don't understand why that was necessary?


Because he was asked by a reporter doing a story about this year's team not having big names like last year's team. It's not like he's gone out of his way to trash Fat Albert. He actually doesn't even mention him by name. It's just that everyone knows who he's talking about when he talks about so-called stars who won't come to work. :?

Did D Hall steal somebody's puppy?? Why so much hate for a guy who plays so well for us most of the time.
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Irn-Bru wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:In bru,
This site list all credibility for me when I looked ast how it had Moss and Cooley ranked. It had Cooley as something like the 40th best TE in the league and Moss around the 60th.

Just absurd!!!


It's not a site with subjective rankings. If Moss comes in as the 60th best receiver, that doesn't necessarily mean they are saying he should be drafted 60th if you were starting a new team/league.

So the stats can't be used in quite the same way a lot of people like to use them. They are measurements for very specific things (and you can find all the info for what goes into them on the site).


I know they seem to cherry pick some stats to tel the story they want to tell. I'm not saying they are intentionally trying to make the Skins players look bad, they just have some stats that they value higher than others.

No way, Cooley or Moss end up that low unless you are using some weird stats.

There is no way DHall is the 83rd best CB in the NFL.

Yes, those stats were cherry picked!
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jeremyroyce wrote:Why does Hall need to recreate this mess regarding Big Albert? There is no doubt that Big Albert was a boob, but I don't understand why that was necessary?


Because he was asked by a reporter doing a story about this year's team not having big names like last year's team. It's not like he's gone out of his way to trash Fat Albert. He actually doesn't even mention him by name. It's just that everyone knows who he's talking about when he talks about so-called stars who won't come to work. :?

Did D Hall steal somebody's puppy?? Why so much hate for a guy who plays so well for us most of the time.


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who is nandi? His name is Nnamdi..
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RedskinsRule56 wrote:who is nandi? His name is Nnamdi..


Here's the funny part, you knew EXACTLY what I was talking bout.

Plus he isn't a Redskin so I can care less how you spell his name. Nandi, namdi, namdeez
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RedskinsRule56 wrote:who is nandi? His name is Nnamdi..


Really?
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RedskinsRule56 wrote:who is nandi? His name is Nnamdi..


Dude. You are so negative, it's downright funny. Whose account did you hijack?? :?
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D Hall is a good fit here. He has great catch up speed, he baits the QB, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I think peeps here are dead on, if he gets a good safety behind him, he'll have a better season than last year.
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Ha ha lpJ I told him the same mess yesterday if he aint a skin why would I care if I get it right?? So petty man reminds me of this fanatic I met once... Such rediculous posts. We get u hate this roster and hope we fail and magically acquire luck and a whole new roster. Cool now move on doode your posts are redundant and jus an eye sore anymore.
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jeremyroyce wrote:Why does Hall need to recreate this mess regarding Big Albert? There is no doubt that Big Albert was a boob, but I don't understand why that was necessary?


Because he was asked by a reporter doing a story about this year's team not having big names like last year's team. It's not like he's gone out of his way to trash Fat Albert. He actually doesn't even mention him by name. It's just that everyone knows who he's talking about when he talks about so-called stars who won't come to work. :?

Did D Hall steal somebody's puppy?? Why so much hate for a guy who plays so well for us most of the time.


I never said that I hated Hall, and I don't believe that my response indicated that either. This is the comment that I had a problem with.

Do we have a guy that we’re paying $100 million to? No we don’t. But who needs a guy that you’re going to pay $100 million to if he won’t come out onto the field and play?

That in my opinion was not necessary and in my opinion that is throwing someone under the bus, and that again in my opinion is recreating this whole Big Albert saga which this team does not need to go through again.
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jeremyroyce wrote:That in my opinion was not necessary and in my opinion that is throwing someone under the bus, and that again in my opinion is recreating this whole Big Albert saga which this team does not need to go through again.


Dude, Fat Albert wasn't "thrown" under the bus, he jumped under the bus
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
jeremyroyce wrote:That in my opinion was not necessary and in my opinion that is throwing someone under the bus, and that again in my opinion is recreating this whole Big Albert saga which this team does not need to go through again.


Dude, Fat Albert wasn't "thrown" under the bus, he jumped under the bus


He went in for a play, but couldn't get up, that's why the bus ran him over.
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Not sure that you can have quality free agents when you are 26 million below the cap. They did have some big departures but Mcnabb and Haynesworth brough drama, whether or not it was intentional is beyond me. Frankly, I though Shanahan was a little out of his element with those two.
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RedskinsRule56 wrote:You just made a big mistake Harley Hog. You want proof Hall blows here you go. Read it and weep.

Posting links that Irn-Bru already posted does not invalidate Harley's criticism of your previous post. :roll:


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hall is a double edged sword he makes plays and will give up some ...... about the blitzes we will be throwing at qbs it will count on if we get to the qb make him make poor decisions the more time you give any qb he will fine an open wr
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
jeremyroyce wrote:That in my opinion was not necessary and in my opinion that is throwing someone under the bus, and that again in my opinion is recreating this whole Big Albert saga which this team does not need to go through again.


Dude, Fat Albert wasn't "thrown" under the bus, he jumped under the bus


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I don't think that Hall was 'attacking' the fat slob as much as he was making the point that the players that are here are making an effort and how hard it must have been to have players that were just showing up and, for the most part, rather than contribute to anything they were bent on creating a bad atmosphere on the the field and in the clubhouse

Good DBs are made better by getting pressure up front - our defense may not be really good this season but they will be better than we have seen for a few years - we have gotten better with our front 7 and with our secondary


I like having a guy like Hall playing for our secondary - he's a good CB
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
jeremyroyce wrote:That in my opinion was not necessary and in my opinion that is throwing someone under the bus, and that again in my opinion is recreating this whole Big Albert saga which this team does not need to go through again.


Dude, Fat Albert wasn't "thrown" under the bus, he jumped under the bus


More like stumbled. I don't think he CAN jump :!:
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:I hate to exercise caution about a guy who single-handedly won us two games a year ago, I'm concerned that he's going to regress to the mean on turnovers this year while his coverage continues to be spotty.


No doubt with Hall we live by the sword and die by the sword. But as I and others bashed Rogers for drawing more passes and allowing QB's to try to thread a needle because he was zero threat to intercept them, Hall diverts a lot of passes because he's an enormous threat to intercept. He also causes more overthrows and out of bounds throws as well as QB's want to make sure he can't get his hands on the ball. And he's on a good receiver as well. You can't just count passes given up and INTs.
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