Haynesworth

encinoman · Post by **encinoman** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:03 am

Looks like we have seen our last game of Albert Haynesworth. He played a full game, I dont know if he will be able to recover from this mentally and physically. He was just going through the motions out there. Body language says it all. Whats Shanys next move. Release?

Ugly game, what a sour taste going into the season. I hope armstrong is as good as advertised because our recievers are weak.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:10 am

Ugly game? You can't take anything away from this game and it means nothing. A lot of these guys wont be on the team come Saturday and we didn't play any of our starters.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:13 am

it was ugly only b/c our 3rd stringers are not that good. Would've liked to see better production from Banks but he's my underdog story. Think he's going to be on the PS after this preseason's performance.

ATX_Skins · Post by **ATX_Skins** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:21 am

I have to agree Frank. I think he was fighting tonight for that 6th WR slot and Austin showed him up there. Banks had a nice return but then muffed a catch.

You know what they say "you can build a thousand bridges...."

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:36 am

I don't get this thread...

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:49 am

You know every thread has a tenancy to take on a life of it's own. Esp. on gameday when so many have drank so much. (not me of course)

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:07 am

ATX_Skins wrote:I have to agree Frank. I think he was fighting tonight for that 6th WR slot and Austin showed him up there. Banks had a nice return but then muffed a catch.

You know what they say "you can build a thousand bridges...."

I wish Austin the best ....but he was shaky too. Dropped too many balls.

Wahoo McDaniels · Post by **Wahoo McDaniels** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:32 am

Haynesworth didn't actually "play" so the point's moot. He mailed this one in.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:48 am

Coach Mike Shanahan on playing NT/DT Albert Haynesworth the entire game: "There's only one way to get him in football shape, and that's to have him practice and play."

tribeofjudah wrote:
I wish Austin the best ....but he was shaky too. Dropped too many balls.

Five passes for 94 yards and a TD, that might get him a spot, he moved further ahead of Banks tonight.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:46 am

encinoman wrote:Looks like we have seen our last game of Albert Haynesworth. He played a full game, I dont know if he will be able to recover from this mentally and physically. He was just going through the motions out there. Body language says it all. Whats Shanys next move. Release?

Ugly game, what a sour taste going into the season. I hope armstrong is as good as advertised because our recievers are weak.

We won't be releasing Haynesworth, but I have misgivings about the wisdom of forcing him to play this game. I hope AH can swallow his pride, a trait he has never exhibited, and just keep his mouth shut. If he does, I think Shanahan may let the issue finally drop. Otherwise, this cold wind up being a season-long distraction.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:42 am

encinoman wrote:Looks like we have seen our last game of Albert Haynesworth. He played a full game, I dont know if he will be able to recover from this mentally and physically. He was just going through the motions out there. Body language says it all. Whats Shanys next move. Release?

I hope this is meant tongue in cheek. I'd agree with your philosophy guys should go out and play all the time like they care. But Haynesworth doesn't leave it on the field in the pre-season? There is absolutely zero news in that.

encinoman wrote:Ugly game, what a sour taste going into the season. I hope armstrong is as good as advertised because our recievers are weak.

Armstrong is a bubble guy, who "advertised" he's our go to guy to actually make up for the rest?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:48 am

Deadskins wrote:
encinoman wrote:Looks like we have seen our last game of Albert Haynesworth. He played a full game, I dont know if he will be able to recover from this mentally and physically. He was just going through the motions out there. Body language says it all. Whats Shanys next move. Release?

We won't be releasing Haynesworth, but I have misgivings about the wisdom of forcing him to play this game. I hope AH can swallow his pride, a trait he has never exhibited, and just keep his mouth shut. If he does, I think Shanahan may let the issue finally drop. Otherwise, this could wind up being a season-long distraction.

we are NOT releasing Fat Al - I could care a rats arse what Haynesworth wants OR thinks (IF he had a NFL "in shape" brain cell it would be lonely) - he's one of the best DLs in the game WHEN he's in shape, Haslett & Mike's idea of "shape" NOT Fat Al's - he needs to be honest with himself and work harder to be able to play at the level we need him at - so far he's just a fat, lazy slob

I think that Shanahan is doing the right thing in how he's handling this guy - almost breaking him down so that everyone looking on can see what a waste of time and effort this guy is when left on his own - Haynesworth is going to be here this season and the only way 'up' for him is to get into shape - he's not there yet

Fat Al is staying and hopefully he's going to make it into the starting rotation ......... eventually

SKINFAN · Post by **SKINFAN** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:10 am

He had a couple of plays where he blew the Olineman up, but after that, we didn't see anything else. I did see some plays though where he didn't rush because his assignment was middle containment. I don't know if Haslett wanted to see him play within his scheme and not freelance, or that AH just wasn't trying. I do agree though, WE DID NOT SEE DOMINANCE. He should have gotten to the QB anytime he wanted against 2nd stringers.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:17 am

AH on some plays just stood up and grabbed the guy. I feel really bad for the players who went up against AH b/c the coaches are looking at tape and saying - damn - we have nothing to eval. these guys against.

Personally, I think that the coaches understand what Albert can do. But for the most part, he's yet to show what he can do. He hasn't gone 100%. If he had put some plays together there in the 2nd half, then maybe coach would've taken him out. But all he did was sulk on and off the field.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:24 am

frankcal20 wrote:AH on some plays just stood up and grabbed the guy. I feel really bad for the players who went up against AH b/c the coaches are looking at tape and saying - damn - we have nothing to eval. these guys against.

Personally, I think that the coaches understand what Albert can do. But for the most part, he's yet to show what he can do. He hasn't gone 100%. If he had put some plays together there in the 2nd half, then maybe coach would've taken him out. But all he did was sulk on and off the field.

Exactly. If he would just stop all of his "poor me" pouting and petulance, and commit to the team, this would have all been over weeks ago.

NYFINESTSKINSFAN · Post by **NYFINESTSKINSFAN** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:44 am

AH is nothing more than a fat baby. So much for AH being a tough son of a bitch. A tough son of a bitch would suck it up and perform their duty 100% no matter what. Again, AH is just a pampered multi-million dollar fat baby with not one bit of toughness. He makes me sick!

TincoSkin · Post by **TincoSkin** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:59 am

wow, there is a lot of emotion about the preseason games!

For those of you who dont understand, this game was for youngsters trying to make the team and AH to get some snaps.

AH got reps! I see this as success. He will be in better shape then if he had not played. And who cares if he didnt have 3 sacks and a fumble???

PRESEASON!

To quote the venerable AI,

"I mean, listen, we talkin about practice"

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:07 pm

AI... could hardly be called "venerable"...by ANY stretch...

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:31 pm

I worry that Mike is taking this too far at this point. His previous staffs have said he can be crazy at times...

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:49 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I worry that Mike is taking this too far at this point. His previous staffs have said he can be crazy at times...

Big Al NEEDED the reps... remember this is a new scheme for him and new terminology

Shanahan NEEDS him to be fully ready to go next week.

Seems to me it was needed, considering AH didn't practice after he did get to camp and "passed" his conditioning test.

encinoman · Post by **encinoman** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:54 pm

I don't know....But I think a win in Dallas next weekend will magically solve all are problems

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:07 pm

encinoman wrote:I don't know....But I think a win in Dallas next weekend will magically solve all are problems

That's gonna be hard, since we're playing at Fed Ex.

skinsr4real · Post by **skinsr4real** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:24 am

1niksder wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I worry that Mike is taking this too far at this point. His previous staffs have said he can be crazy at times...

Big Al NEEDED the reps... remember this is a new scheme for him and new terminology
Shanahan NEEDS him to be fully ready to go next week.
Seems to me it was needed, considering AH didn't practice after he did get to camp and "passed" his conditioning test.

A better conditioned AH is a more effective player - he might be 'good' as is but he's going to be better if he's in better shape

I would not place too much on what other coaches/people thought about Mike in Denver - this is an upgraded, improved, better coach than that

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:11 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I worry that Mike is taking this too far at this point. His previous staffs have said he can be crazy at times...

After declining being released and cashing the $21 million check, Fat Albert skipped OTAs including the mandatory ones, arrived out of shape and couldn't pass the conditioning test for a week and a half, then he got a condition that was a direct result of his out of shape lard butt. When is he supposed to practice exactly? This was pretty much the last option and he made it so, not Shanahan. Shanahan not doing what he did would have amounted to that if Fat Albert doesn't do his job enough times eventually it's Shannahan's job to cave and let him off the hook.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:01 pm

I have no problem with him being conditioned.

I just hope that this is more business related than it is personal... It's on the fence. Now I'm not going against Shanny or anything but I'm just hoping it's not being done to the point that it becomes a detriment to the team as a whole. At some point, I hope for this to be over and for them to move on.

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