My Hopes for Rd 1 - what's yours?

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My Hopes for Rd 1 - what's yours?

Post by frankcal20 »

Here's something I've been going back and forth on for a while now:

1. Bradford
2. Okung
3. McCoy
4. Trade Down w/ SF for their 2 #1's including Campbell (value chart equates as a late 2nd round pick) also could include Haynesworth but that would require a 3rd round or multiple 5th & 6th or next year's 2nd.
13. Mike Iupati to play RT or G - most likely RG or CJ Spiller if we want to be crazy
17. Trade out of this pick as well to either a late first or early 2nd while picking up another mid round pick

My hopes is that we're active in moving around the board a bit to aquire more picks. Both our guys are very smart at finding value in the draft and I hope that being that this is a very deep draft we're able to shore up several area's of need.
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My hopes for the draft:
Bradford - he's a future great QB
Okung - IF Bradford is gone and we cannot get out of the 4 pick we have to take this future great OT
Berry - this is a stretch and only if we cannot find a franchise that wants this pick

I just think there's going to be a lot of movement and trades associated with this draft :lol:
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Post by frankcal20 »

I agree which is why I'm watching every minute like every year. Something tells me that KC and NE will do a lot.
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Post by SkinsJock »

In the past it has been very difficult for the top 10 picks to change hands, but, for some reason, this draft is shaping up to be a big question at almost all the top picks

I'm kind of hoping we get Okung but at this time I'm also anticipating at least 1 team and possibly 2 teams moving out of the top 5

this is going to be a lot of fun :lol:
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SkinsJock wrote:My hopes for the draft:
Bradford - he's a future great QB
Okung - IF Bradford is gone and we cannot get out of the 4 pick we have to take this future great OT
Berry - this is a stretch and only if we cannot find a franchise that wants this pick

I just think there's going to be a lot of movement and trades associated with this draft :lol:


Bradford may become a great player, but we have a QB for now. We need an OT or whoever plays QB will get crushed.
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Post by Manchester_Redskin »

1. Draft our LT for the next 10 years, be it Okung, Bulaga or Williams

2. Somehow engineer a trade deal (haynesworth and/or Campbell) that gets us a second round pick so we can draft another decent OL guy.
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Post by Gibbs4Life »

Trade out of 4 w SF

Take Iupati and Trent Williams

Trade Haynesworth for a 2nd rounder = take Tebow

Trade Campbell for a 3rd

If we pick at 4 Take Eric Berry; I wouldn't spend a top 5 pick on a big ugly olineman there will be good ones in the fourth round, not all late round olineman are Chad Rhinehart
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Take Okung

Get something for Campbell

Don't take late rounders with no talent. At least make an effort unlike the last regime.
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It's boring as hell, but I want us to stay and take Okung at 4. He's reported to have a great work ethic and we all know the talent he has. IMO, durability and work ethic are key, they're the main tools a prospect needs to become better than they are.

Williams and Davis has work ethic concerns and Bulaga has durability concerns. Okung is the only guy with elite talent, a strong work ethic and no history of durability. He is quick, has good speed, an incredible reach, great strength (best bench press at the combine)... he's mean, he's tough and he's a good leader who's also coachable and will fit into our locker room very well. I hope we get him.
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Post by Manchester_Redskin »

This sounds better ..

1. We trade Campbell to the rams for their first round pick

2. We trade Haynesworth to the Lions for their first round pick

We then have 3 of the top 4 picks.

... meanwhile, back in the real world ... has anyone ever had 3 picks in the top 4?
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Post by frankcal20 »

no. i don't see that happening.
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Manchester_Redskin wrote:This sounds better ..

1. We trade Campbell to the rams for their first round pick

2. We trade Haynesworth to the Lions for their first round pick

We then have 3 of the top 4 picks.

... meanwhile, back in the real world ... has anyone ever had 3 picks in the top 4?


In 2000 we had two of the top 3...
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Just a guess, neither one are on the team?
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Post by Manchester_Redskin »

frankcal20 wrote:Just a guess, neither one are on the team?


Thats right, it was Samuels and Arrington ?
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frankcal20 wrote:Just a guess, neither one are on the team?


Chris Samuels and LaVar Arrington. So no, but they combined for 9 pro-bowls, and 16 NFL seasons. With better management there's no reason the Redskins of the early 2000's shouldn't have been an elite team. Dan Snyder screwed up soooooo badly in everything except that draft.
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Post by Manchester_Redskin »

frankcal20 wrote:no. i don't see that happening.


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Post by frankcal20 »

...back then. He's blown the draft lately but that's why he isn't going to be in the room this year or if he is, he'll be in the corner just watching - not talking.
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Post by CanesSkins26 »

Stay at 4 and draft Bradford if he falls. If not, take Okung. Additional picks would be nice, but we can get an elite player at #4 so I think that we'd be better off staying there.
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My #1 wish for this draft is that the Rams take Sam Bradford. I think it's a dumb pick that will backfire and that they should get Suh. He's the best D-Line prospect in 30 years. Bradford is a system QB who hardly ever took a snap from under center.

If the Rams do the smart thing, and take Suh that puts us in a TOUGH spot. I don't want any part of Bradford, even with Shannahan involved. I want Okung, we NEED a lineman!
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I see a couple people suggesting we trade our #4 for SF's two first rounders. Its a nice dream, but if you were SF would YOU make that trade?

I'm hoping that we get a solid LT and don't trade away any more future draft picks.
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SF is a team ran by defensive guys. There are two DT's who are franchise players at a position we don't need. I just wonder if we have the AMO to make that play. Think about SF if they could get Haynesworth and McCoy or Suh? Why wouldn't they make that trade?
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SkinsJock wrote:My hopes for the draft:
Bradford - he's a future great QB
Okung - IF Bradford is gone and we cannot get out of the 4 pick we have to take this future great OT
Berry - this is a stretch and only if we cannot find a franchise that wants this pick

I just think there's going to be a lot of movement and trades associated with this draft


From reports the Redskins are the only team still trying to make a deal with the Rams :shock: - I do not agree with this but I do like Bradford
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That could be coming from the Rams in hopes to entice someone else to make an offer. Honestly, we don't have anything to offer them and Bradford just doesn't make sense unless you only intend to have McNabb for one year. Also, I think there will be issues in the locker room if we do that.
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brad7686 wrote:Take Okung

Get something for Campbell

Don't take late rounders with no talent. At least make an effort unlike the last regime.


I knew someone would feel the same as me.. I'm with Brad
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langleyparkjoe wrote:
brad7686 wrote:Take Okung

Get something for Campbell

Don't take late rounders with no talent. At least make an effort unlike the last regime.


I knew someone would feel the same as me.. I'm with Brad
Keep in mind that we're talking about different guys. Thankfully Shanny 1 has had the last year off where he said he's watched a lot of college football. He also has shown to find guys later in the draft and get very good production from them.
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