Redskins One on way back from Denver

[CanesSkins26]

From Adam Schefter's Twitter...

Snyder, Allen and Shanahan are scheduled to meet into night but no deal will get done today. Tonight's meeting about organization direction.

I would imagine that "organization direction" includes the role that Snyder will play going forward (hopefully...fingers crossed).

[riggofan]

Why is he meeting with Snyder??

Apparently Snyder met him at the airport and Allen left Redskins Park to meet up with them. I would imagine that Shanahan wants some assurances that Snyder will give him and Allen autonomy to run the team.

Is it really unusual for the team owner to meet with the coach he is hiring or something?

[CanesSkins26]

Why is he meeting with Snyder??

Apparently Snyder met him at the airport and Allen left Redskins Park to meet up with them. I would imagine that Shanahan wants some assurances that Snyder will give him and Allen autonomy to run the team.

Is it really unusual for the team owner to meet with the coach he is hiring or something?

Kind of. Usually the GM or Team President would take the lead on a coaching hire.

[DEHog]

Why is he meeting with Snyder??

Apparently Snyder met him at the airport and Allen left Redskins Park to meet up with them. I would imagine that Shanahan wants some assurances that Snyder will give him and Allen autonomy to run the team.

Is it really unusual for the team owner to meet with the coach he is hiring or something?

Kind of. Usually the GM or Team President would take the lead on a coaching hire.

Why don't people get this...Snyder has are fan base conditioned!!!

[RedskinTexan]

Washington Redskins:
According to our sources, a press conference for Mike Shanahan (former Denver Broncos Head coach) is most likely to be tomorrow announcing our
earlier BREAKING NEWS on Shanahan being named the next Head Coach.

[TeeterSalad]

Why is he meeting with Snyder??

Apparently Snyder met him at the airport and Allen left Redskins Park to meet up with them. I would imagine that Shanahan wants some assurances that Snyder will give him and Allen autonomy to run the team.

Is it really unusual for the team owner to meet with the coach he is hiring or something?

Kind of. Usually the GM or Team President would take the lead on a coaching hire.

Maybe its time to talk $$$.

[skinsfan#33]

He just got off the plane and went into a limo... we'll see how quickly they can rush him to Redskins Park. I'm sure he's there by now. It's only a few minutes away.

The link said the plane landed at Dulles at 10:45 AM local time and it was 84 degrees and cloudy. I don't want to point out the desparity in temp as a caution to this being a fake, but something is not right!

There's nothing fake about the story. A reporter from NBC saw him and tried to talk to him.

Here's a pic as he got off the plane...

Wow a picture of Mike Ratahan! That couldn't fake. That light jacket is exactly what I would where leaving Denver (very cold) coming to Ashburn, below freezing.

But hey it was in the news it has to be true. Heck Ratahan was at Redskins park last week according to Fox 5!

I'll believe he is the coach when they have a presser to introduce Ratahan.

[riggofan]

Why don't people get this...Snyder has are fan base conditioned!!!

Sorry, I just don't think its all that unusual really. Read the past two days worth of profootballtalk and there are plenty of articles with owners dealing with coaches in similar ways. I can think of the Bears and the Texans in just the past few days.

It did not take long for Texans owner Bob McNair to evaluate the job coach Gary Kubiak did this season.

McNair said last month he would wait to evaluate Kubiak after the season. A few minutes after the Texans’ 34-27 victory over the New England Patriots at Reliant Stadium on Sunday, McNair said Kubiak would return for the fifth and final year of his contract.

There is a chance Kubiak will get an extension. That decision will be made later this month.

“Gary’s my coach,” McNair said after the Texans rallied to defeat the Patriots and finish 9-7 for their first winning record. “I know there was speculation that he might not be (back in 2010), but he will be. He’ll definitely be back. I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be.”

[DEHog]

Why don't people get this...Snyder has are fan base conditioned!!!

Sorry, I just don't think its all that unusual really. Read the past two days worth of profootballtalk and there are plenty of articles with owners dealing with coaches in similar ways. I can think of the Bears and the Texans in just the past few days.

It did not take long for Texans owner Bob McNair to evaluate the job coach Gary Kubiak did this season.

McNair said last month he would wait to evaluate Kubiak after the season. A few minutes after the Texans’ 34-27 victory over the New England Patriots at Reliant Stadium on Sunday, McNair said Kubiak would return for the fifth and final year of his contract.

There is a chance Kubiak will get an extension. That decision will be made later this month.

“Gary’s my coach,” McNair said after the Texans rallied to defeat the Patriots and finish 9-7 for their first winning record. “I know there was speculation that he might not be (back in 2010), but he will be. He’ll definitely be back. I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be.”

When was the last time you heard from McNair??

[CanesSkins26]

He just got off the plane and went into a limo... we'll see how quickly they can rush him to Redskins Park. I'm sure he's there by now. It's only a few minutes away.

The link said the plane landed at Dulles at 10:45 AM local time and it was 84 degrees and cloudy. I don't want to point out the desparity in temp as a caution to this being a fake, but something is not right!

There's nothing fake about the story. A reporter from NBC saw him and tried to talk to him.

Here's a pic as he got off the plane...

Wow a picture of Mike Ratahan! That couldn't fake. That light jacket is exactly what I would where leaving Denver (very cold) coming to Ashburn, below freezing.

But hey it was in the news it has to be true. Heck Ratahan was at Redskins park last week according to Fox 5!

I'll believe he is the coach when they have a presser to introduce Ratahan.

Yes, I'm sure you're right. It's a conspiracy between Dan Hellie, Lindsey Czarniak, and Adam Schefter to dupe Redskins fans into believing that Shanahan is really in DC when he is actually back home in Denver. Tricky, tricky media

[SkinsJock]

Why is he meeting with Snyder??

Boy oh Boy - Snyder is really handling this in such a classy way that it makes me very worried about how much he has to do with the re-building around here

this looks like Snyder is still running things

would Bruce Allen handle this this way? really

AND if it is not Bruce Allen, then who is running this franchise and what is happening today?

please explain that Snyder is not running this franchise right now
he said he had turned it over to Bruce Allen and now are we to believe that Bruce Allen sent the plane to pick up Shanahan on the same day we let Zorn go?

[spenser]

He just got off the plane and went into a limo... we'll see how quickly they can rush him to Redskins Park. I'm sure he's there by now. It's only a few minutes away.

The link said the plane landed at Dulles at 10:45 AM local time and it was 84 degrees and cloudy. I don't want to point out the desparity in temp as a caution to this being a fake, but something is not right!

There's nothing fake about the story. A reporter from NBC saw him and tried to talk to him.

Here's a pic as he got off the plane...

Wow a picture of Mike Ratahan! That couldn't fake. That light jacket is exactly what I would where leaving Denver (very cold) coming to Ashburn, below freezing.

But hey it was in the news it has to be true. Heck Ratahan was at Redskins park last week according to Fox 5!

I'll believe he is the coach when they have a presser to introduce Ratahan.

Dude.... better be carefull when you call him that. He may Gnaw off your arms!

[PulpExposure]

Why is he meeting with Snyder??

Boy oh Boy - Snyder is really handling this in such a classy way that it makes me very worried about how much he has to do with the re-building around here

this looks like Snyder is still running things

would Bruce Allen handle this this way? really

AND if it is not Bruce Allen, then who is running this franchise and what is happening today?

please explain that Snyder is not running this franchise right now
he said he had turned it over to Bruce Allen and now are we to believe that Bruce Allen sent the plane to pick up Shanahan on the same day we let Zorn go?

Dude. Get a grip. Owners are involved in the coaching search all the time.

For example, the beloved Rooneys...well when they interviewed candidates to replace Tomlin, they used a 3 person search/interview committee. 2 of those 3 people were Rooneys; the 3rd was the GM.

But Mr. Tomlin thoroughly impressed the Steelers' three-man search committee -- president Art Rooney, chairman Dan Rooney and football operations director Kevin Colbert -- in his first interview, and he immediately became a serious candidate.

IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. After all, the owner is the one paying the coach's salary...you HAVE to be comfortable with the guy you're paying the big bucks to.

But, somehow, if Snyder is involved in hiring the head coach, it's terrible? I don't get it.

[Cappster]

There will be an announcement either today or tomorrow introducing Shannahan as the new coach.

Is that you, Nostradamus?

I am known as Cappstradamus.

[Gibbs4Life]

I'm anxious, why can't they announce it already!!!!!!! Buffalo might be making a last ditch effort to land him; they told every coach to get the heck out by tonight.

[chiefhog44]

Why is he meeting with Snyder??

Boy oh Boy - Snyder is really handling this in such a classy way that it makes me very worried about how much he has to do with the re-building around here

this looks like Snyder is still running things

would Bruce Allen handle this this way? really

AND if it is not Bruce Allen, then who is running this franchise and what is happening today?

please explain that Snyder is not running this franchise right now
he said he had turned it over to Bruce Allen and now are we to believe that Bruce Allen sent the plane to pick up Shanahan on the same day we let Zorn go?

Dude. Get a grip. Owners are involved in the coaching search all the time.

For example, the beloved Rooneys...well when they interviewed candidates to replace Tomlin, they used a 3 person search/interview committee. 2 of those 3 people were Rooneys; the 3rd was the GM.

I totally agree. I'm sitting here reading this and wondering the same thing. Rooney is very involved with the coaching hires...I know, my in-laws are part of the ownership there and they were saying that Rooney met with Tomlin a bunch of times before hiring him. Settle down guys, this is very normal.

[skinsfan#33]

He just got off the plane and went into a limo... we'll see how quickly they can rush him to Redskins Park. I'm sure he's there by now. It's only a few minutes away.

The link said the plane landed at Dulles at 10:45 AM local time and it was 84 degrees and cloudy. I don't want to point out the desparity in temp as a caution to this being a fake, but something is not right!

There's nothing fake about the story. A reporter from NBC saw him and tried to talk to him.

Here's a pic as he got off the plane...

Wow a picture of Mike Ratahan! That couldn't fake. That light jacket is exactly what I would where leaving Denver (very cold) coming to Ashburn, below freezing.

But hey it was in the news it has to be true. Heck Ratahan was at Redskins park last week according to Fox 5!

I'll believe he is the coach when they have a presser to introduce Ratahan.

Yes, I'm sure you're right. It's a conspiracy between Dan Hellie, Lindsey Czarniak, and Adam Schefter to dupe Redskins fans into believing that Shanahan is really in DC when he is actually back home in Denver. Tricky, tricky media

OOPS! I hadn't seen the news yet. But I still stand by the fact that he was tremendously underdressed for the weather.

[SkinsJock]

Why is he meeting with Snyder??

Boy oh Boy - Snyder is really handling this in such a classy way that it makes me very worried about how much he has to do with the re-building around here

this looks like Snyder is still running things

would Bruce Allen handle this this way? really

AND if it is not Bruce Allen, then who is running this franchise and what is happening today?

please explain that Snyder is not running this franchise right now
he said he had turned it over to Bruce Allen and now are we to believe that Bruce Allen sent the plane to pick up Shanahan on the same day we let Zorn go?

Dude. Get a grip. Owners are involved in the coaching search all the time.

For example, the beloved Rooneys...well when they interviewed candidates to replace Tomlin, they used a 3 person search/interview committee. 2 of those 3 people were Rooneys; the 3rd was the GM.

I totally agree. I'm sitting here reading this and wondering the same thing. Rooney is very involved with the coaching hires...I know, my in-laws are part of the ownership there and they were saying that Rooney met with Tomlin a bunch of times before hiring him. Settle down guys, this is very normal.

oh thank you very much - I was getting worried for a while there - I promise not to bring this concern up again - I should have known that Snyder can have input like the Rooney family do we can now rest assured because unlike the Rooney family who leave the team alone, everything will be OK here with Snyder still in charge - thank you for informing us of that

I'll just watch and see - if Snyder is still involved with running this franchise, we can kiss another few years goodbye

putting Snyder's ownership in the same context as the Rooney family is an insult to our intelligence

[Gibbs4Life]

Calling the man Ratahan is disrespectfull and childish, you probably look disgusting yourself and just take out your shame on others. I can see why you think he looks ratty but c'mon man show some respect our savior has arrived!!!!


Zorn wasn't worthy of replacing Gibbs, not many are, but Shanny is

[VetSkinsFan]

Guys and gals, is this really something that requires panties in a bunch? He's not even officially hired yet. The season's not over. JUST BREATHE!!!

[PulpExposure]

putting Snyder's ownership in the same context as the Rooney family is an insult to our intelligence

You missed the point of it. When it comes to hiring a coach, even "hands off" owners like the Rooneys are involved in the hiring process. It's normal to do so.

It'd be idiotic for an owner NOT to be involved in hiring his franchise's next head coach.

The key is to see if Snyder keeps his hands free of the personnel decisions. Not to see if he's involved in selecting the next guy he's going to pay to run his franchise.

[Redskin in Canada]

The key is to see if Snyder keeps his hands free of the personnel decisions. Not to see if he's involved in selecting the next guy he's going to pay to run his franchise.

An owner can do WHATEVER he/she pleases.

A WISE owner should limit his choices to picking the GM and/or President. After that, his role diminishes GREATLY. Most good owners get involved as part of the process to a LIMITED extent, such as JKC in the hiring of that unknown Joe Gibbs almost 30 years ago.

After that, wise owners should not only refrain from making personnel decisions but ALL other decisions on the football side of the operations, such as other coaches hirings, who plays or who does not, bypassing coaches with direct communications with players, drafting, player acquisitions, etc.

In other words, wise owners do not meddle. Good owners do not play fantasy football. Wise owners let the best people do the best job they were hired to do.

We have no signal yet that Daniel Snyder is not meddling. He does not have the benefit of the doubt for some of us. He would if he was a new owner. With over a decade of bad habits, it is difficult to believe otherwise.

The Washington Redskins have become the graveyard of coaches, good and bad coaches. Let us hope that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan know that and acquired sufficient control to save their careers and reputations.

[VetSkinsFan]

The key is to see if Snyder keeps his hands free of the personnel decisions. Not to see if he's involved in selecting the next guy he's going to pay to run his franchise.

An owner can do WHATEVER he/she pleases.

A WISE owner should limit his choices to picking the GM and/or President. After that, his role diminishes GREATLY. Most good owners get involved as part of the process to a LIMITED extent, such as JKC in the hiring of that unknown Joe Gibbs almost 30 years ago.

After that, wise owners should not only refrain from making personnel decisions but ALL other decisions on the football side of the operations, such as other coaches hirings, who plays or who does not, bypassing coaches with direct communications with players, drafting, player acquisitions, etc.

In other words, wise owners do not meddle. Good owners do not play fantasy football. Wise owners let the best people do the best job they were hired to do.

We have no signal yet that Daniel Snyder is not meddling. He does not have the benefit of the doubt for some of us. He would if he was a new owner. With over a decade of bad habits, it is difficult to believe otherwise.

The Washington Redskins have become the graveyard of coaches, good and bad coaches. Let us hope that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan know that and acquired sufficient control to save their careers and reputations.

It's rumored that Shanahan may be Team President, too. Then it wouldn't be meddling.

The guilty until proven innocent routine is old. We'll win a Super Bowl and some people still won't be happy.

[SkinsJock]

I understand that the owner should be involved with certain parts of the managing of an NFL franchise.

I understand that Snyder has been trying to help things along here.

I think that Snyder can be 'helpful'

my concern is that Snyder has indicated that Allen is going to be in charge here and will be the GM going forward
Snyder has indicated that he's not going to be as involved as he used to be .... and yet .....
a lot of what is happening here in the past 2 weeks has the appearance of how Snyder does things - that is all I'm concerned about

IF Snyder is involved now (after saying he was stepping back and letting Allen manage things) how involved is he going to be as soon as he gets the guys in here that he wants?

I am happy if he steps back BUT this scum that is our owner has never truly lived up to what he has indicated he would do when it comes to this franchise and the people that work for him


we shall see if he's truly learned his lessons as he's said - he's still a liar

[tribeofjudah]

The key is to see if Snyder keeps his hands free of the personnel decisions. Not to see if he's involved in selecting the next guy he's going to pay to run his franchise.

An owner can do WHATEVER he/she pleases.

A WISE owner should limit his choices to picking the GM and/or President. After that, his role diminishes GREATLY. Most good owners get involved as part of the process to a LIMITED extent, such as JKC in the hiring of that unknown Joe Gibbs almost 30 years ago.

After that, wise owners should not only refrain from making personnel decisions but ALL other decisions on the football side of the operations, such as other coaches hirings, who plays or who does not, bypassing coaches with direct communications with players, drafting, player acquisitions, etc.

In other words, wise owners do not meddle. Good owners do not play fantasy football. Wise owners let the best people do the best job they were hired to do.

We have no signal yet that Daniel Snyder is not meddling. He does not have the benefit of the doubt for some of us. He would if he was a new owner. With over a decade of bad habits, it is difficult to believe otherwise.

The Washington Redskins have become the graveyard of coaches, good and bad coaches. Let us hope that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan know that and acquired sufficient control to save their careers and reputations.

It's rumored that Shanahan may be Team President, too. Then it wouldn't be meddling.

The guilty until proven innocent routine is old. We'll win a Super Bowl and some people still won't be happy.

I'm so confused: What is the heirachy of a team? Who is the TOP DOG?

1. GM
2. President
3. HC

Do I have this right?