Ohalete or Bowen?

sportsrock37 · Post by **sportsrock37** » Mon May 17, 2004 2:45 pm

Who should be the starting SS?

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Mon May 17, 2004 3:38 pm

Whoever has the best training camp

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon May 17, 2004 3:40 pm

oafusp wrote:Whoever has the best training camp

Whoever has the best training camp.

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon May 17, 2004 4:32 pm

I third that opinion - whoever shows the most at camp...

They both did better than most think considering the circumstances.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:04 pm

my money is on bowen. simply because of the contract thing. bowen is here another 4 years, iffy just 1. williams will begin to build chemistry in the secondary with the guys who will most likley be here a while (taylor and bowen) it's good to have a backup of iffy's calibur, but unless bowen totally stinks it up in camp, i don't see iffy getting the nod. of course this is all speculation, just my My 2 cents

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:06 pm

Just keep in mind one thing though - Iffy can be a good third safety to come in like Williams likes - he is by far better than Terrell/Franz/Lott

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:11 pm

we are stacked in the secondary. nickle and dime packages will probably be our strengths. i just wish the same could be said for the line in the 4-3 :roll:

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:15 pm

hopefully the secondary will help the line to shine!

tx_skins_fan · Post by **tx_skins_fan** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:20 pm

I could totally see a rotation of Iffy and Bowen depending on the defensive scheme, and the players they're covering. It makes a lot of sense to mix it up and confuse offenses. These guys are both capable, and will be much improved under Greg Williams.

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:22 pm

the line helps the secondary to shine - you don't use the secondary to help the line to shine cause you end up with what we did last year.

We had safeties having to play run support all the time and corners with their heads on a swivel also to see if a back had gotten past the other 9 players.

The line needs to be strengthened so as to stop the run and put pressure on the QB to help the secondary not have to cover as long.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:32 pm

Why then is there such a thing as a coverage sack? I think that excellent coverage can contribute to a pass rush.

I agree on stopping the run and hopefully our DL can adequately do so.....but I was referring to the lack of a pass rush.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:32 pm

Whoever Gibbs likes best.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:34 pm

please let those june 1 sam adams rumors be true..... [-o<

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:37 pm

Are they giving away free Samuel Adams on June 1st? I'm thirsty!

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:39 pm

remember Tx... even with Champ in the secondary last year - the QB danced in the pocket and had way too much time to throw.

Without anyone to push the pocket from the inside or out, not to mention not even thinking of stopping a runner going past them, the coverage sacks don't exist.

Seriously, when Edwards blitzed, it got sacks - usually by a lineman who didn't get doubled up on.

Hopefully the LB can help the line to shine

If the front seven are coached better the back 4 will do better... I am with alla y'all... I pray they all do better

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:39 pm

Texas Hog wrote:Are they giving away free Samuel Adams on June 1st? I'm thirsty!

come june 1, if adams is released, and we pick him up, i'll buy a round on the freakin house personally. :lol:

hell make that 2 rounds

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:45 pm

here, here!

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:52 pm

you catch my drift :wink:

Brandon777 · Post by **Brandon777** » Mon May 17, 2004 6:06 pm

skinsfaninroanoke wrote:the line helps the secondary to shine - you don't use the secondary to help the line to shine cause you end up with what we did last year.

We had safeties having to play run support all the time and corners with their heads on a swivel also to see if a back had gotten past the other 9 players.

The line needs to be strengthened so as to stop the run and put pressure on the QB to help the secondary not have to cover as long.

I also heard analyst say that having a strong secondary allows the front four to blitz and be more aggressive. I can't remember who said it but they were talking about the Eagles. They said the Eagles may not be able to be blitz happy and aggressive on the line like they use to be because they lost both of their top corners.

Dangermouse · Post by **Dangermouse** » Mon May 17, 2004 9:32 pm

Only the STRONG survives! There are Ohalete supporters, there are Bowen supporters. In the end, it's whats best for the Washington Redskins. It shouldn't be decided with the heart.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon May 17, 2004 9:32 pm

Yea, let the heart decide. I think Bowen might win out.

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Ohalete or Bowen?

Who should start at SS for us?

Ohalete or Bowen?