Zorn will be back for '09 season

Secondary_Chaos · Post by **Secondary_Chaos** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:21 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3789427

Cooley47 · Post by **Cooley47** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:27 pm

The best thing they did with this decision was doing it quickly and not make it into a huge deal. I think it is absolutely the right move. Unless they could get Bill Cowher they would either end up getting a big name who will disappoint or another unknown like Zorn and we would have to start over.

Give the guy at LEAST one more year. For god sakes he has a winning record. Yes, we should be doing better but give him time. This is the right move.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:30 pm

Cooley47 wrote:The best thing they did with this decision was doing it quickly and not make it into a huge deal.

Did they? It seems like this rumor has been festering for at least two or three weeks now. I don't see why there should have been any expectation that a coach in his first season might lose his job.

Cerrato should have been out in front of this two weeks ago saying that they have a plan to build a winning team, and you don't do that by hiring a new coach every year. Instead the guy is showing a pathetic amount of "support" for the coach he so enthusiastically hired in January. And who really feels any confidence that Cerrato actually has a plan?

Bob 0119 · Post by **Bob 0119** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:49 pm

Cooley47 wrote:The best thing they did with this decision was doing it quickly and not make it into a huge deal. I think it is absolutely the right move. Unless they could get Bill Cowher they would either end up getting a big name who will disappoint or another unknown like Zorn and we would have to start over.

Give the guy at LEAST one more year. For god sakes he has a winning record. Yes, we should be doing better but give him time. This is the right move.

Cowher would be a huge mistake. Keep in mind that Cowher was on a 20 year plan. I don't think he'll stick around for as long as it takes to get another SB with another team. The man has nothing left to prove.

DaRealistJoka · Post by **DaRealistJoka** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:00 pm

Cooley47 wrote:The best thing they did with this decision was doing it quickly and not make it into a huge deal. I think it is absolutely the right move. Unless they could get Bill Cowher they would either end up getting a big name who will disappoint or another unknown like Zorn and we would have to start over.

Give the guy at LEAST one more year. For god sakes he has a winning record. Yes, we should be doing better but give him time. This is the right move.

I would agree that this is the best move but I don’t think one more year is enough. I believe Zorn should stick around a least to the end of his contract or longer if we are consistently in the playoffs. Winning a SB doesn’t happen over night. Another poster said Cowher is on a 20 year plan, I rather stick with one guy for a long period of time and finally win a super bowl then keep switching coaches. It has been 27 years sense the last time we won a super bowl and 7 coaching changes and we are still a long way from a SB championship. Lets be patience with Cerrato, lets be patience with Zorn, and lets be patience with Jason.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:03 pm

DaRealistJoka wrote:
Cooley47 wrote:The best thing they did with this decision was doing it quickly and not make it into a huge deal. I think it is absolutely the right move. Unless they could get Bill Cowher they would either end up getting a big name who will disappoint or another unknown like Zorn and we would have to start over.

Give the guy at LEAST one more year. For god sakes he has a winning record. Yes, we should be doing better but give him time. This is the right move.

I would agree that this is the best move but I don’t think one more year is enough. I believe Zorn should stick around a least to the end of his contract or longer if we are consistently in the playoffs. Winning a SB doesn’t happen over night. Another poster said Cowher is on a 20 year plan, I rather stick with one guy for a long period of time and finally win a super bowl then keep switching coaches. It has been 27 years sense the last time we won a super bowl and 7 coaching changes and we are still a long way from a SB championship. Lets be patience with Cerrato, lets be patience with Zorn, and lets be patience with Jason.

Exactly. The worst thing for our franchise is to get another coach, before you let Zorn implement his plan, and get players he thinks he can win with.

It takes time, and patience, to build a team.

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:31 pm

Cooley47 wrote:Give the guy at LEAST one more year. For god sakes he has a winning record. Yes, we should be doing better but give him time. This is the right move.

Exactly. A winning record in the NFC East for that matter. Thats not an easy thing to do as a rookie HC. Glad Snyder decided to keep him, even though we shouldn't even have to be talking about this, its not like he is 0-15.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:41 pm

riggofan wrote:
Cooley47 wrote:The best thing they did with this decision was doing it quickly and not make it into a huge deal.

Did they? It seems like this rumor has been festering for at least two or three weeks now. I don't see why there should have been any expectation that a coach in his first season might lose his job.

Cerrato should have been out in front of this two weeks ago saying that they have a plan to build a winning team, and you don't do that by hiring a new coach every year. Instead the guy is showing a pathetic amount of "support" for the coach he so enthusiastically hired in January. And who really feels any confidence that Cerrato actually has a plan?

I agree but I think we all know this isn't Vinny decision...Which tells me that Snyder was on the fence about bring Zorn back...Vinny said they would evaluate after the season and then we beat Philly and like that Zorn is back???

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:57 pm

I would agree that this is the best move but I don’t think one more year is enough. I believe Zorn should stick around a least to the end of his contract or longer if we are consistently in the playoffs. Winning a SB doesn’t happen over night. Another poster said Cowher is on a 20 year plan, I rather stick with one guy for a long period of time and finally win a super bowl then keep switching coaches. It has been 27 years sense the last time we won a super bowl and 7 coaching changes and we are still a long way from a SB championship. Lets be patience with Cerrato, lets be patience with Zorn, and lets be patience with Jason.[/quote]

Actually, its only been 17 years since we last won a SB, it only seems like 27 years.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:17 pm

Keeping Zorn is the ONLY sensible thing to do.

PAPDOG67 wrote:Actually, its only been 17 years since we last won a SB, it only seems like 27 years.

I have been around for each and every Superbowl appearance, let alone every Lombardi Trophy.

But the last time feels almost looks like a lifetime to me. :cry:

Still, I enjoy and treasure each and every one of them dearly.

ANT7088 · Post by **ANT7088** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:02 am

Zorn needs to be given at least 3 years no matter how our record is next year.

Here's the Mike Holmgren Coaching Tree records-

Mike Holmgren:
1992 - 9-7
1993 - 9-7
1994 - 9-7
1995 - 11-5
1996 - 13-3 - SuperBowl Champs

John Gruden:
1998 - 8-8
1999 - 8-8
2000 - 12-4
2001 - 10-6
2002 - 12-4 - SuperBowl Champs

Andy Reid:
1999 - 5-11
2000 - 11-5 - Ranked #2 in Division
2001 - 11-5 - Ranked #1
2002 - 12-4 - Ranked #1
2003 - 12-4 - Ranked #1
2004 - 13-3 - NFC Champs

Mike Sherman:
2000 - 9-7
2001 - 12-4 - Ranked #2 in Division
2002 - 12-4 - Ranked #1
2003 - 10-6 - Ranked #1
2004 - 10-6 - Ranked #1

Steve Mariucci:
I'm skipping

Wahoo McDaniels · Post by **Wahoo McDaniels** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:26 pm

How fast do you think that Vinnie and Dan are tripping over themselves right now to call Shanahan?

Man, I bet they wish they wouldn't have said that Zorn's job was safe.

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:42 pm

Wahoo McDaniels wrote:How fast do you think that Vinnie and Dan are tripping over themselves right now to call Shanahan?

We can't hope that they hurt themselves in the process, can we? 8-[

SKINFAN · Post by **SKINFAN** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:06 pm

Cooley47 wrote:The best thing they did with this decision was doing it quickly and not make it into a huge deal. I think it is absolutely the right move. Unless they could get Bill Cowher they would either end up getting a big name who will disappoint or another unknown like Zorn and we would have to start over.

Give the guy at LEAST one more year. For god sakes he has a winning record. Yes, we should be doing better but give him time. This is the right move.

we are going against tradition here... Usually this is rebuilding time again. Personally, I'd like to see what he can do next year, but I'd also like to see another QB coach at the sideline or a new OC, he can't do all of it can he?