How would you grade this years draft

JonC56 · Post by **JonC56** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:12 pm

just curiuos as to how you guyts rate this years dratf[/url]

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:12 pm

Day one was a solid B... day 2, F-

JonC56 · Post by **JonC56** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:14 pm

day 2 really makes no sense, one pick on the o line would be ok, but both, we have greater needs then that. I understand they were problay the best players left on the redskins boards but we badly need dline help

SkinFan 0-16 or 16-0 · Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:16 pm

I would give us a B. We filled two needs. We got two starters. If we would have picked 2 D lineman instead of 2 o lineman it would have been an A.

So Day 1 A+

Day 2 D

Pudgeman37 · Post by **Pudgeman37** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:21 pm

Day 1, B+

We got our need picks, but one more pick, especially D-Line would bump it on to an A.

Day 2, D

One O-linemen is fine, two is too much.

Overall, We've taken care of our needs, but the d-line is a little suspect, so I think the coaches are hoping for June 1 cuts. May I add, I saw next year's prospects. Next year is not going to be a great year for prospects. This year was a gold mine, but if we go to the playoffs, who's going to be available?

Tracy :shock:

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:24 pm

I'm sure that we will be graded pretty low by NFL analysts, but I really don't think we did all that badly. Getting the TE/H-Back spot locked up was key; and I actually don't think our D-line is in as bad shape as most would say it is. Staying put and grabbing Taylor might not get chalked up to skill per se, but we can still get some credit for making that solid decision. Not our best year by any stretch of the imagination, yet certainly not our worst.

Overal: B-

RedskinsRule56 · Post by **RedskinsRule56** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:03 pm

1st Day- A+ -Taylor was the Right pick!
2nd Day- Made no sense (D-) Why did we take offensive lineman when our O-line is set. When should have taken D-line! NCHog43-Did you get my message about a custom avator?

GibbSkins · Post by **GibbSkins** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:06 pm

i think day 1 was an A- i really like both of these picks
day 2 on the other hand is a bit bewildering...id give it a D+
just because i was exspecting some D-line help i think we could have brought these 2 in with undrafted free agents..but i think that both these kids have some potential under the right system(ours) there both blue collar guys..and Jim Molinaro is a Pa Native so he cant be all that bad

i guess there looking to bring in some piglets and raise them to be hoggs :@)

jklote · Post by **jklote** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:43 pm

A

Sean Taylor is the best player in the draft. We got one of the top veteran QBs in the NFL with our third round pick. The TE addresses a need, and the two tackles are for Bugel to mentor.

I wouldn't rule out signing another DT after cuts are made.

Redskins4Life · Post by **Redskins4Life** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:15 pm

Day 1- A-
Day 2- F-

Day 2 was by far the most horrible day I have I ever witnessed in Redskins draft history. We passed on Isaac Hilton and other Defensive Linemen twice for two backup Tackles who might not even make the damn team... what a damn day...

Jeremy81 · Post by **Jeremy81** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:15 pm

I'd say B. we had potential to have an A draft but i don't think we need both o lineman...maybe one, but not two...shoulda got a d lineman with one of our two picks today

SKINS#1 · Post by **SKINS#1** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:19 pm

[quote="jklote"]A

Sean Taylor is the best player in the draft. We got one of the top veteran QBs in the NFL with our third round pick. The TE addresses a need, and the two tackles are for Bugel to mentor.

VERY GOOD INSIGHT -

BEST PLAYER IN DRAFT
TOP VETERAN QB
H-BACK/TE THAT FITS NEED
2 - OT FOR BUGEL TO MENTOR

HOW CAN WE COMPLAIN ABOUT THESE RESULTS???

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:27 pm

I'd say a B Would have liked to have traded down and gotten two players. Hard to argue with the Taylor pick. I didn't like giving up a #2 with Champ! Cool

ey makes it a solid B! Not sure what's up with picking two tackles?? Is Chris moving inside to G??

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:34 pm

I agree that two O-linemen seems a bit wierd given our situation, but then again, this is one of those positions that its hard to have too many good ones. If just one of these two becomes a good reliable backup than maybe its worth it.

Look, this is the first draft in forever that a D-lineman wasn't in the first 10 picks. The choices were sparse. Both O-lineman have upsides. My guess is that when looking at 5th-6th round picks, if one out of two makes the team then you are doing OK. Last year, when our starters were out, our line sucked big time. We need at least 3 decent backups I think. Last year we only had one rook who while good, made lots of mistakes.

RobSkins1 · Post by **RobSkins1** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:47 pm

What was rong with day 2? we dont realy need Dline guyz I dont know why you all think that so much. We are good on Dline and we are good on the Oline we had good people on the Oline but now we have good backups just in case one of the starters gets hurt we will not have a hole to fill. I say the to Oline guyz we picked up was a smart move.

JonC56 · Post by **JonC56** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:06 pm

robskins, im just curious were are we going to get a consistent pass rush from. True we will be better against the run, but we have no effective pass rushing de's

MEZZSKIN · Post by **MEZZSKIN** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:16 pm

Guys, o- line is like starting pitching in baseball...you never have enough.remember last year when they said Dockery wasnt needed...he was sarting by week 5(due to injuries) i think...

Magoo · Post by **Magoo** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:36 pm

IMO drafting Tackles makes sense when you consider the scope of all the off-season activity to date.

Here is a list of free agent signees and re-signed players . . . of course this list is going to grow tomorrow when the team brings in the undrafted free agents, a few of whom are sure to make the roster.

The re-buidling was a little light on O-Line activity until we added these guys. With Fiore gone and Moore not likely to make the opening season roster, these guys will provide depth and go a long way to easing the burden on our starters during practice.

DEFENSIVE LINE:
DT Cornelius Griffin
DE Phillip Daniels
DT Joe Salave'a

DEFENSIVE BACKFIELD:
CB Shawn Springs
CB Ralph Brown
CB Walt Harris
S Todd Franz
** S Sean Taylor

LINEBACKERS:
LB Keith Mitchell
LB Marcus Washington
LB Lemar Marshall
LB Antonio Pierce
LB Michael Barrow

BACKFIELD:
QB Mark Brunell
RB Clinton Portis

WIDE OUTS:
WR James Thrash
WR Darnerien McCants

TIGHT ENDS:
TE Brian Kozlowski
TE Walter Rasby
** TE Chris Cool

ey

OFFENSIVE LINE:
C Cory Raymer
OL Lennie Friedman
** T Mark Wilson
** T Jim Molinaro

SPECIAL TEAMS:
LS Ethan Albright
P Tom Tupa

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:39 pm

Triple A+.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:53 pm

What are we grading? The 2004 Draft

OK who did we get?
1st round ....Sean Taylor S
2nd Round ....Clinton Portis RB
3rd round ....Mark Brunell QB
3rd round ....Chris Cool

ey HB/TE
5th round ....Mark Wilson T
6th round ....Jim Molinaro T

I'll have to give the an A

DE would have earn an A+

RedskinsRule56 · Post by **RedskinsRule56** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:51 pm

Magoo-Our other starting CB is Smoot not Ralph Brown!! Smoot will be a Pro Bowler this year mark my word!

ii7-V7 · Post by **ii7-V7** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:57 pm

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 427&sid=10

Thats all I have to say!

Chad

davef · Post by **davef** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:47 am

B- or C+ without trade acquisitions, solid B+ with'em.

hkHog · Post by **hkHog** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:12 am

I don't understand how people can be so critical of the second day of our draft. On the second day you are looking for guys that MIGHT be able to contribute next year, if ever. We got two solid players. Sorry to shout but THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO ADDRESS D-LINE DEFICIENCIES ON THE SECOND DAY! I congradulate the Redskins on making two good draft picks today. They got who they thought were the best players rather than trying to fill needs with players who may never do anything. You are not going to build next year's D-Line with 5th and 6th rounders.

By the way, I give them an A. In Taylor they got one of the three studs in the draft (Gallery and Winslow clearly the other two -- I think Taylor is the best of the three though) AND filled a major need. It is not often you can do that. Cool

ey is a great pick and the two O-lineman are big and raw. Give them some great coaching and who knows what will happen.

skinz74 · Post by **skinz74** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:05 am

If I may interject my My 2 cents

, I think this gets back to us as the fans putting too much pressure on Gibbs & staff to rise up too quickly. We simply can't rebuild a Gibbs like team in one year. So, why try to spread thin picks all over. It looks to me like he solidified 3 positions that he was concerned with. I would be willing to bet that the FO has something up their sleave for June, but I can't promise that it's gonna be something spectacular...possibly a couple DE/DT that's decent, but coachable. Then I look for us to draft some DL next year. Can't do it all in one year...especially when half our draft this year was dismantled for key player aquisitions.

My draft grade...based on this information
A-