we are awesome.

[LOSTHOG]

For the record, fios is actually a Gaelic word that means knowledge

I think gay lick is what hailskins666 was accusing GSPODS of

[Fios]

While this is fun and all, we do have a topic here and should make an effort to stick to it

[MossIsBoss88]

Well, we are the shnizzle, I don't think there's any question about that

I'd rather be the schnitzel.

Schnitzel is good. especially in lafa.

[chiefhog44]

Take a look at it this way - pretty positive future I think

D-line- We need a stud Left DE. With the 10th pick the Redskins select Quentin Groves
DE Carter - is 28 (has maybe three more yrs)
DT Montgomery - 2nd year (will get better)
DT Griffin - is 31 (getting old)
DT Alexander, Golston - 2nd yr (love Alexander's strength and Golston's getting better)
DE Daniels (cut this old bag)

LB - We're pretty set here for next year
LB Washington - 31 - (need to replace him in the draft in 09)
LB McIntosh - should be a star
LB Fletcher - Still has a couple yrs left in him
LB Blades - spitting image of Fletcher...hopefully

CB - We need a draft pick here if Springs is gone. 2nd round selection would be Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie or DeJuan Tribble
CB Springs - Not sure if he'll be back. needs replaced
CB Rodgers could be a star...will step up and be a #1 next year
CB Smoot - Serve's as an ok #2 great back-up and good mentor to draft pick

S - Incomplete - not enough depth in the draft this yr
S Landry - is a stud...second coming?
S Doughty - Not sure yet
S Fox - cut him
S Prioleau - getting old, very average

O Line - One of the best in the business...when healthy and Heyer was a great pickup. How about Adam Kraus in the 3rd? 320 lb G

WR - We need one playmaker here (Marcus Monk Round 4?)
WR Moss - is 28 (not a primary receiver and if he continues the spider man act and spins the ball on EVERY first down, I'm going to punch the TV) Would be a great #2
WR Randell El - is 28 (Not a second receiver and if he continues to point to the sky and do his rainbow jesture on every first down...) Would be a great #3
WR Lloyd - best practice player in the league. has to step up or else
WR Thrash - Getting old - Needs replaced
WR McCardell - The old bag is our best receiver this year. Would be a great Car Wash employee
TE ey - Turning into a game breaker

QB - We're set
Campbell - Will be a star

RB - Pretty solid
RB Portis is only 26 (needs another offseason to rehab and to lose 5 lbs)
RB Betts - Solid #2
RB Cartright - Good return man
RB Sellers - is 32 (Getting old but we need one more yr out of him although I like Alexander here as well)

[Malicious]

Geez man, your 'positive future' is cool, but let's face it, things inevitably will not turn out as you are predicting.
Have you seen the personnel and coaching carousel with this team over the last decade? Many questionable moves.


I understand how people can be optimistic about the current team , but believe me no one is getting to the true root of the 'Skins problem...

NO PRIDE

No one wants to hear this but it's true. I didn't actually believe this for the longest time, but a wise friend has articulated the problem well for me.

Plus Losers always find ways to lose. The losing has become contagious and is malignant.
If the 'Skins played 55-minute games, we'd damn near be unbeaten. But that ain't reality.
-
This season has gone down the can 'cause of

--Poor coaching in several instances
--Poor execution including lack of pass rush, red zone O
--Injuries
--Tragedy
and most importantly, we're just not that good yet.

[crazyhorse1]

Moderately Ok days are ahead. Gibbs will be gone and the offense will be allowed to try to score points when we're already ahead. Oh, joy. We'll even get a top draft a CB pick to make up for the last top CB pick we made and will probably be able to pick up offense linemen of quality and a great pass rushing DE in the late rounds. Plus, I sense that a tall walk-on WR of great significance will show up at try outs hoping for a scholarship. Oh, wait. Maybe that last one won't happen.

[CanesSkins26]

CB - We need a draft pick here if Springs is gone. 2nd round selection would be Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie or DeJuan Tribble
CB Springs - Not sure if he'll be back. needs replaced
CB Rodgers could be a star...will step up and be a #1 next year
CB Smoot - Serve's as an ok #2 great back-up and good mentor to draft pick

Not to nitpick your post, but I remember reading that there was some doubt as to whether Rogers would even be healthy to start the season next year. I believe JLC had a blog about that type of injury taking 18 months to fully heal, so expecting Rogers to be a #1 next season might not be very realistic.

[Redskin in Canada]

The Washington Redskins are the GREATEST team on earth win or lose because they are the Washington Redskins. I will always support them.

[Champsturf]

The Washington Redskins are the GREATEST team on earth win or lose because they are the Washington Redskins. I will always support them.

For real, just because they suck doesn't mean we don't still love them. We would just like to cheer on a WINNING team for a change, that's all.

Just for fun though, can you show me how the "GREATEST" team, the Washington Redskins, even resemble a team? I mean, really...they're a joke. All that talent, as usual, but can't win a darn thing. No teamwork at all, either side of the ball.

[MossIsBoss88]

The Washington Redskins are the GREATEST team on earth win or lose because they are the Washington Redskins. I will always support them.

For real, just because they suck doesn't mean we don't still love them. We would just like to cheer on a WINNING team for a change, that's all.

Just for fun though, can you show me how the "GREATEST" team, the Washington Redskins, even resemble a team? I mean, really...they're a joke. All that talent, as usual, but can't win a darn thing. No teamwork at all, either side of the ball.

you will NOT be like the eagles fans. sure, its good to bash your team a bit, some positive reinforcement, because you want to push them to do better. however, it seems like youre being a fairweather fan.... RIC is half right. the skins arent the GREATEST team on EARTH, but we love them and in our eyes, they are the greatest team. the one we love more than any other in probably all sports.

[Redskin in Canada]

For real, just because they suck doesn't mean we don't still love them. We would just like to cheer on a WINNING team for a change, that's all.

Just for fun though, can you show me how the "GREATEST" team, the Washington Redskins, even resemble a team? I mean, really...they're a joke. All that talent, as usual, but can't win a darn thing. No teamwork at all, either side of the ball.

So you love them "better" when times are good, don't ya, good man?

When they please you with a win or a championsip, you "support" them, don't ya, good man?

Well, let me tell you:

I had it very, very rough in my life early on when I was a child. we were poor and even food on the table was "measured". When I started my first post-graduate studies, I was about to become a complete failure and I even contemplated some stupid options. When I started my marriage, about two to three years into it, I had it very tough for a number of economic and personal circumstances. All I remember is that there were a number of people in those different stages in my life from a child to an adult in who did not empathise or supported me and they thought I SUCKED. I do not remember them all, nor do I care to do so.

I DO remember those few, very few, who through it all, the bad or the worse circumstances SUPPORTED ME AND BELIVED IN ME. Those are the FEW ones I call Teachers, Friends and Family (all of them with a capital letter at the front).

Of course things changed, because my family and I worked hard at it, I succeeded beyond my expectations in school, my family and my professional life. WHO among the people that feel that are "my friends" do I really turn to now to consider them MY FRIENDS, those who stuck with me through the rough and tumble periods in my life. The rest are equivalent to selfish fair-weather fans that are ready to switch as your fortunes or lack thereof go.

And one more thing:

Do not say that there is no teamwork. That is an UTTER and ABJECT lie! This team has a great spirit. ANYBODY that after the loss of a teammate goes on to to play hard on the field a few days later, for example, HAS TO HAVE BLOOD in their veins and LOVE in their heart. Do not question their TEAMWORK.

Even if EXECUTION stinks at times, you cannot argue against the TEAMWORK spirit of the Skins.

You see, once the lynching MOB gets going EVERYTHING and ANYTHING can go, any argument can fly, it becomes a competition as to whom can be more destructive. Noting new to me and my experiences in life.

Me, myself and I are with THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS and Joe Gibbs. You ca catch up with the three of US later when times get a little less rough.

[Irn-Bru]

And one more thing:

Do not say that there is no teamwork. That is an UTTER and ABJECT lie! This team has a great spirit. ANYBODY that after the loss of a teammate goes on to to play hard on the field a few days later, for example, HAS TO HAVE BLOOD in their veins and LOVE in their heart. Do not question their TEAMWORK.

Even if EXECUTION stinks at times, you cannot argue against the TEAMWORK spirit of the Skins.

That is one point that I have tried to communicate a few times on THN during this season. We have had our share of under-achieving paycheck collectors in the past, but this team's heart and attitude is unassailable. The real problem is that we are making mistakes and coming up short, not that we aren't giving it 100%.

Equating teamwork with wins—as in, less than many wins = no teamwork —seems to be the mindset behind many criticisms I see on THN, but I disagree with that thinking.

[langleyparkjoe]

@ Canadian's Post =
Dude! I was about to shed tears!!!
Dude!

I hear ya though man, just giving yuh a hard time. I will always love my team and will support them to the end. 8-8 no problem, 6-10 no problem, 0-16 I still don't care, they'll be my team wit all dat nonsense. Greatest team? I mean how do you really judge that? Stats? I think we're all biased so lets just mute that topic in the bud.

[SkinsJock]

And one more thing:

Do not say that there is no teamwork. That is an UTTER and ABJECT lie! This team has a great spirit. ANYBODY that after the loss of a teammate goes on to to play hard on the field a few days later, for example, HAS TO HAVE BLOOD in their veins and LOVE in their heart. Do not question their TEAMWORK.

Even if EXECUTION stinks at times, you cannot argue against the TEAMWORK spirit of the Skins.

That is one point that I have tried to communicate a few times on THN during this season. We have had our share of under-achieving paycheck collectors in the past, but this team's heart and attitude is unassailable. The real problem is that we are making mistakes and coming up short, not that we aren't giving it 100%.

Equating teamwork with wins—as in, less than many wins = no teamwork —seems to be the mindset behind many criticisms I see on THN, but I disagree with that thinking.

I for one agree and feel that this team is attempting to get the most out of every play on the field. I noticed during the Bills game that Portis seemed to be asking his offensive line for a little more - I felt he was not indicating that they were not doing the best they could but rather I felt he was leading and encouraging them - I sense a lot of pride with our team and I think that for the most part the team is also very frustrated and disapointed in what is going on.

However, I do feel that a team that plays together and has a game plan and plays that suit the players on the field will be better than a team that has the talent but not the "chemistry". A lot of ingredients go into a good stew but its knowing the correct mix that will make one better than another.

The WR is probably best to make this point - a lot of teams select WRs based on their talent and not whether that talent suits their team and their QB - look at what Moss has done for Brady and vice versa - Brady is a great QB, Moss was always a great WR but his skills were not "used" by the Raiders and people (including me) wondered if that was a good choice by the Pats
The Lions went after the "best" WR draft after draft and look at what happened there - I would rather not draft a WR, I would find one that suited our team and our players - Welker was a very talented WR in Miami, they just didn't "use" him and his talents. The Eagles "took away" Moss and Welker caught close to 12 passes.

The Pats are good because when they have a "bad" day they still are competitive because they are utilizing all 11 guys on both sides of the ball - The Patrriots have "great" players who were not "great" before they played together. There are many who have left and are suddenly just very good players but not "great".

This team of ours is not a good team right now but my difference with some here is only that it is not far from being a good team with a lot of the players and coaches that are here - Yes we need to make some changes from the top down, coaches and players, but it need not be that drastic a change.
This group has a lot of heart that deserves our support, especially now, not the ridicule (and firings) that some here are espousing.

I feel we are a lot closer to having a successful team by making a lot of changes in how we do things but to say that we should fire everyone and start over because there is no long term (5 year plan!) is in my opinion a cop out on those guys that are here that are giving it their best.

We are awesome - we are the Washington Redskins

HAIL

[langleyparkjoe]

"We are awesome - we are the Washington Redskins "

Man, I had to re-read some of your post like 3x's...but this is the best part of it for sure

[EasyMoney]

The rest are equivalent to selfish fair-weather fans that are ready to switch as your fortunes or lack thereof go.

And one more thing:

Do not say that there is no teamwork. That is an UTTER and ABJECT lie! This team has a great spirit. ANYBODY that after the loss of a teammate goes on to to play hard on the field a few days later, for example, HAS TO HAVE BLOOD in their veins and LOVE in their heart. Do not question their TEAMWORK.

Even if EXECUTION stinks at times, you cannot argue against the TEAMWORK spirit of the Skins.

You see, once the lynching MOB gets going EVERYTHING and ANYTHING can go, any argument can fly, it becomes a competition as to whom can be more destructive. Noting new to me and my experiences in life.

Me, myself and I are with THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS and Joe Gibbs. You ca catch up with the three of US later when times get a little less rough.

RiC, don't take this as an attack on you. I'm attacking the notion that people are fairweather fans because they don't believe this team is going anywhere.

I'll start by saying if people have doubts about this team or don't believe its headed in the right direction I think they're justified. 16 seasons of failure with a couple playoff appearances sprinkled in would have just about anyone believing that. If these people are really fairweather fans, why would any of them still be here? They would've left to follow another team a long time ago.

No one wants to see this franchise in their current state but that doesn't mean they don't get our support. I'm still a Redskins fan and I'll always be a Redskins fan. But that doesn't mean I have to be happy about the product I see on the field.

Maybe saying things like this 12 games into a 16 game season is a little early. I would have to agree that until all 16 games are completed they deserve our full support. I don't think you directly said that but I think that was the point you were trying to make.

[THE RAM]

Let's go guys, let's stay positive, tonight or we stay alive or we start looking for next season, the Redskins can pull a 4 game winning streak, I know they can, let's win tonight and then focus on the Giants, a game at a time, still we control our destiny with 4 in a row.

I'm sure the cards and lions will lose on sunday.

Please post only positive comments

[Fios]

The rest are equivalent to selfish fair-weather fans that are ready to switch as your fortunes or lack thereof go.

And one more thing:

Do not say that there is no teamwork. That is an UTTER and ABJECT lie! This team has a great spirit. ANYBODY that after the loss of a teammate goes on to to play hard on the field a few days later, for example, HAS TO HAVE BLOOD in their veins and LOVE in their heart. Do not question their TEAMWORK.

Even if EXECUTION stinks at times, you cannot argue against the TEAMWORK spirit of the Skins.

You see, once the lynching MOB gets going EVERYTHING and ANYTHING can go, any argument can fly, it becomes a competition as to whom can be more destructive. Noting new to me and my experiences in life.

Me, myself and I are with THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS and Joe Gibbs. You ca catch up with the three of US later when times get a little less rough.

RiC, don't take this as an attack on you. I'm attacking the notion that people are fairweather fans because they don't believe this team is going anywhere.

I'll start by saying if people have doubts about this team or don't believe its headed in the right direction I think they're justified. 16 seasons of failure with a couple playoff appearances sprinkled in would have just about anyone believing that. If these people are really fairweather fans, why would any of them still be here? They would've left to follow another team a long time ago.

No one wants to see this franchise in their current state but that doesn't mean they don't get our support. I'm still a Redskins fan and I'll always be a Redskins fan. But that doesn't mean I have to be happy about the product I see on the field.

Maybe saying things like this 12 games into a 16 game season is a little early. I would have to agree that until all 16 games are completed they deserve our full support. I don't think you directly said that but I think that was the point you were trying to make.

For some people, Joe Gibbs is a sacred cow, for others of us he is not. But none of that speaks to whether we are fans.

[Countertrey]

For some people, Joe Gibbs is a sacred cow,

If leading my team through the most incredible decade of it's history makes him a sacred cow, well...

Moo away, Joe...

[gibbsfan]

here,s to a great effort in tonights game.
the spirit of sean carries us thru..

go skins

[Kearney420]

Go Skins!!! I live in Illinois and nothing would make me happier than the Skins kickin the Bears A$$ and shuting my friends up. GO SKINS!!!!

[langleyparkjoe]

For some people, Joe Gibbs is a sacred cow,

If leading my team through the most incredible decade of it's history makes him a sacred cow, well...

Moo away, Joe...

You mean the decade waaaaaaaaaaay in the past right?

[joebagadonuts]

We have the best band in the NFL.

[Fios]

I think one of the really cool things about being a Redskins fan is the diversity of the fan base.

[tribeofjudah]

Well, we are the shnizzle, I don't think there's any question about that

Fo schizzle on my nizzle......