Official Gameday Thread-Skins vs. Bills

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:23 pm

why did we not throw to cooley or moss in the second half. did we feel it was too easy in the first half and wanted to challenge ourselves?

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:24 pm

Game was'nt on tv...What was the outcome of the unsportsmanlike...I know it was a 15 yarder and 1st down, but what play was leading up to it and what did the resulting penalty do to affect the game?

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:25 pm

NC43Hog wrote:So all week we cry and say how football doesn't matter, Sean is what was important , so we have the worst WEEK in Redskin history and all is forgotten. It's back to the Fire Gibbs, we SUCK posts.

I made the post early in the game that concentration might be an issue.

O-line had its problems -- a few false starts, and a missed assignment which opened up a lane the size of New Jersey that led to the safety.

Could such a concentration issue have led to the second time out? Maybe. Circumstances are understandable but at 1:00 on Sundays, it still comes back to football first.

SCSkinsFan · Post by **SCSkinsFan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:26 pm

Well it finally came to this for JG to finally fess up and say it. On the Radio Locker room report he just admitted that it was his fault that they lost the game and apologized to the fans, the team, and everyone connected with the Skins.

It should have never come to that, and that's wht hurts the most.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:26 pm

Hey, wouldn't it be nice not to run on first down...every time?

I mean I know you want to get that 0-2 yards, since no one really NEEDS a first down, but...it's a bit predictable.

Just a tad.

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:27 pm

Gibbs has no business making calls for this team anymore. He should move to GM next year and bring in a head coach.

How about JC coughing the ball up again? Twice I might add. Freakin Bum!

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:27 pm

we embarrassed sean today. and perhaps we only sent 10 on defense for that first play because gibbs didn't realize we get to play with 11. greg williams, nudges gibbs, "hey, we get 11 at this level, send in 1 more"

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:27 pm

HEROHAMO wrote:Gibbs has no business making calls for this team anymore. He should move to GM next year ....

You sure you want him making THOSE calls?

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:29 pm

RedskinsFreak wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:Gibbs has no business making calls for this team anymore. He should move to GM next year ....
You sure you want him making THOSE calls?

how about we keep him around as a special coach in charge of time management and replay reveiws?

Sir_Monk · Post by **Sir_Monk** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:29 pm

So all week we cry and say how football doesn't matter, Sean is what was important , so we have the worst WEEK in Redskin history and all is forgotten. It's back to the Fire Gibbs, we SUCK posts.

Sure the Skins should have won this game, but they aren't the ones who are pathetic!

For me, and all Redskins fans, wanted to see this team win in the worst way to honor Sean. Which makes this loss so much more agonizing. If they had come out, been run off the field and the death of Taylor made obvious by a terrible game by everyone, I think I could accept that. But another in a long string of choke job losses is almost to much to handle at this point.

dlc · Post by **dlc** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:29 pm

Where's the character from a guy who SAYS he values it so much? Even when he "takes the blame", he has to partially blame an official too. Who here thinks that the official told him that it was ok?

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:30 pm

RedskinsFreak wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:Gibbs has no business making calls for this team anymore. He should move to GM next year ....
You sure you want him making THOSE calls?

I am not so sure I want him being GM either.

He is still the face of the Redskins though. I dont see him retiring. I hope he himself brings in Cowher or someone of the same caliber. If not I do not see him stepping down or Snyder firing him.

nnskinsfan · Post by **nnskinsfan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:30 pm

Kind of hard to believe people are blaming Gibbs. People complained about running the ball when in the redzone so they pass constantly and still don't score a TD. They go for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goals (like some had been calling for -- a more aggressive call). But, some people seem to overlook the turnovers and the fact a FG at the end wouldn't have mattered if not for the turnovers. Plus the guy already made the 50+ yarder easily but a penalty on the coach lost the game? Geez, gimme a break.

SCSkinsFan · Post by **SCSkinsFan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:31 pm

1fan4ramsey wrote:Game was'nt on tv...What was the outcome of the unsportsmanlike...I know it was a 15 yarder and 1st down, but what play was leading up to it and what did the resulting penalty do to affect the game?

It wasn't a play at all. Gibbs called back to back timeouts to freeze the kicker which is against the rule. The 2nd TO resulted in a 15 yd penalty which moved the ball 15 yds further in from the 51 yarder it would have been. It became a chip shot instead of a long attempt.

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:31 pm

1fan4ramsey wrote:Game was'nt on tv...What was the outcome of the unsportsmanlike...I know it was a 15 yarder and 1st down, but what play was leading up to it and what did the resulting penalty do to affect the game?

Real quick guys, please...thanks.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:32 pm

Sir_Monk wrote:we need one more 1st down.

Naturally, we took a three and out instead of actually trying to get the first down. That's when I knew we would lose. Apparently, Gibbs had/has forgotten what's happened when he's done that all year.

The man has learned from past experience well enough. Too bad he can't learn from recent experience.

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:32 pm

1fan4ramsey wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Game was'nt on tv...What was the outcome of the unsportsmanlike...I know it was a 15 yarder and 1st down, but what play was leading up to it and what did the resulting penalty do to affect the game?

Real quick guys, please...thanks.

long pass over the middle for about 25-30 yards... spiked with 8 seconds to go

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:32 pm

SCSkinsFan wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Game was'nt on tv...What was the outcome of the unsportsmanlike...I know it was a 15 yarder and 1st down, but what play was leading up to it and what did the resulting penalty do to affect the game?

It wasn't a play at all. Gibbs called back to back timeouts to freeze the kicker which is against the rule. The 2nd TO resulted in a 15 yd penalty which moved the ball 15 yds further in from the 51 yarder it would have been. It became a chip shot instead of a long attempt.

thanks guys

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:32 pm

dlc wrote:Where's the character from a guy who SAYS he values it so much? Even when he "takes the blame", he has to partially blame an official too. Who here thinks that the official told him that it was ok?

If Gibbs had asked, there's no way the official flat-out lies.

SCSkinsFan · Post by **SCSkinsFan** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:32 pm

1fan4ramsey wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Game was'nt on tv...What was the outcome of the unsportsmanlike...I know it was a 15 yarder and 1st down, but what play was leading up to it and what did the resulting penalty do to affect the game?

Real quick guys, please...thanks.

Look back one post.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:36 pm

nnskinsfan wrote:Kind of hard to believe people are blaming Gibbs. People complained about running the ball when in the redzone so they pass constantly and still don't score a TD. They go for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goals (like some had been calling for -- a more aggressive call). But, some people seem to overlook the turnovers and the fact a FG at the end wouldn't have mattered if not for the turnovers. Plus the guy already made the 50+ yarder easily but a penalty on the coach lost the game? Geez, gimme a break.

Nothing you say above takes away from the fact that Gibbs today probably made the worse game-time decision of the season by a coach in the NFL. It calls into question the state of his mind, especially in regard to handling pressure.

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:36 pm

SCSkinsFan wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Game was'nt on tv...What was the outcome of the unsportsmanlike...I know it was a 15 yarder and 1st down, but what play was leading up to it and what did the resulting penalty do to affect the game?

It wasn't a play at all. Gibbs called back to back timeouts to freeze the kicker which is against the rule. The 2nd TO resulted in a 15 yd penalty which moved the ball 15 yds further in from the 51 yarder it would have been. It became a chip shot instead of a long attempt.

He basically lost the game by that call...I feel like puking..on a day we could have gained in the wild card race with the Eagles losing. What this season could have been without all the losses we gave away :cry:

skinz74 · Post by **skinz74** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:37 pm

NC43Hog wrote:So all week we cry and say how football doesn't matter, Sean is what was important , so we have the worst WEEK in Redskin history and all is forgotten. It's back to the Fire Gibbs, we SUCK posts.

Sure the Skins should have won this game, but they aren't the ones who are pathetic!

I agree. I guess I expected to see less groaning in wake of the week we've endured...guess the more we learn, the more we forget. The staff, much like the players, are human beings. I didn't expect a win today, I only wanted the players to get back on the field to begin the healing process.

To hear the boos at the end of regulation made me want to vomit. I'm ashamed of the fans who contributed to that. No one is happy that we lost, but losing a family member (which essentially Sean was to them and many of us) would make it impossible to focus.

Maybe some of you should go back and read some of the tribute posts...even some that you have written yourselves and remember that this was probably the toughest game to prepare for in their lives...and move on.

$.02

dlc · Post by **dlc** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:37 pm

nnskinsfan wrote:Kind of hard to believe people are blaming Gibbs. People complained about running the ball when in the redzone so they pass constantly and still don't score a TD. They go for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goals (like some had been calling for -- a more aggressive call). But, some people seem to overlook the turnovers and the fact a FG at the end wouldn't have mattered if not for the turnovers. Plus the guy already made the 50+ yarder easily but a penalty on the coach lost the game? Geez, gimme a break.

Instead of half-assing being aggressive, how about going it for on fourth down and play-action. How about going 4 wide in the red zone? Simply making the correct decision and going for it, doesn't necessarily mean that he made the correct play call.

The reason why we get our butts kicked the 2nd half. They analyze what we did the first half and KNOW that it will be the exact same thing the second. We might as well give the other team our playbook at half time.

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:38 pm

1fan4ramsey wrote:
SCSkinsFan wrote:
1fan4ramsey wrote:Game was'nt on tv...What was the outcome of the unsportsmanlike...I know it was a 15 yarder and 1st down, but what play was leading up to it and what did the resulting penalty do to affect the game?

It wasn't a play at all. Gibbs called back to back timeouts to freeze the kicker which is against the rule. The 2nd TO resulted in a 15 yd penalty which moved the ball 15 yds further in from the 51 yarder it would have been. It became a chip shot instead of a long attempt.

He basically lost the game by that call...I feel like puking..on a day we could have gained in the wild card race with the Eagles losing. What this season could have been without all the losses we gave away

we would have been in the playoffs with a win