Welcome LaRon Landry

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:07 pm

brad7686 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
brad7686 wrote:This is basically like drafting archuleta. This is seriously horrible. I don't even want to watch next year. They did nothing to improve anything by drafting him. What good does a physical safety do you if you can't get to the qb and he has all day to throw. They are completely ignorant to anything that is wrong with them, their team, or their philosophies.

Someone might want to figure out WHAT the TEAM's philosophies and directions are before making a jugdement on this pick.

The guy that runs the team has spoke highly of the TWO DL drafted last year and how they have impressed this off-season. This may not justify drafting a safety but it explains not drafting D Line or bringing anyone in during free agency. If anyone knows why this Defense didn't click last year I'd think it would be the guys that run it.

They were DT's, not DE's, and late round ones at that. PASS RUSH. TEAM RECORD LOW FOR SACKS. TWO SAFETIES WHO CANT COVER AGAINST A QB WITH ALL DAY TO THROW. ANY GAME LAST YEAR. REGGIE WILLIAMS. TERRY GLENN.DONTE STALLWORTH. EVERYBODY ELSE WHO BURNT THEM, IM FORGETTING SOME. Horrrrrrrrible.

So I take it you wanted Jamal Anderson?? Ever heard of Erasmus James....? Courtney Brown? Just because you take a D end in the top 10 does NOT mean they will fill your void. Landry was a safe...no miss pick. He can cover, tackle, blitz...why would you pass on the best overall player just to gamble on the SECOND rated D-End. Some people even had Carriker rated above him....so you would pass on someone who is likely the next Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins, for a guy who isn't even the best pass rusher in the draft??

You would make more sense if the draft was full of All American D-Ends...it just wasn't

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:09 pm

I'm highly critical of the F/O and I have found the sense in this pick. We shall see how it turns out....

I know that we'll all be curious to see how the rookie dlinemen play in this upcoming year.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:15 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'm highly critical of the F/O and I have found the sense in this pick. We shall see how it turns out....

I know that we'll all be curious to see how the rookie dlinemen play in this upcoming year.

I agree, people forget that for every Julius Peppers there are 12 busts....for every Tommie Harris or Dewayne Robertson.....there are 15 mediocre guys at best. This guy has literally no holes in his game.

6 .5 Feet 213 4.3 forty. 4 year starter....ALL SEC...never missed game for injury.

thaiphoon · Post by **thaiphoon** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:15 pm

Hello again everyone - BTW !!!

Landry was a safe...no miss pick

So was Desmond Howard at one time.

Anyone remember Gibbs telling us that he "has no holes"?

The ONLY way this pick makes sense is if the D-line miraculously improves.

I posted too soon...

Hogster said:

This guy has literally no holes in his game.

Anytime someome says that about a Redskins' pick it gives me a nervous tic...

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:24 pm

thaiphoon wrote:Hello again everyone - BTW !!!

Landry was a safe...no miss pick

So was Desmond Howard at one time.

Anyone remember Gibbs telling us that he "has no holes"?

The ONLY way this pick makes sense is if the D-line miraculously improves.

I posted too soon...

Hogster said:

This guy has literally no holes in his game.

Anytime someome says that about a Redskins' pick it gives me a nervous tic...

You're absolutely right and only time will tell. It seems that the team feels this is the best pick. We shall see...

lowtharofthehill · Post by **lowtharofthehill** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:25 pm

i love the pick...mainly because it is a safe pick at the number 6 pick...safety is considered the safest first round pick...it was one espn a few days ago...DE is an extremely risky position to pick in the draft that early...

I think that a defensive lineman will be added and that is all the coaches think needs to be done for the line.

It is important ot have good safeties and good depth... Stoutmire and Preilou and Fox are fill in types of players who are all great on special teams. One of them will start for a bit before Landry starts...but they like to use a rotating 3 safety system

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:25 pm

I think the pick is the result of not being satisfied with the offers on the table to trade down... in other words, they refused to give the pick away for less than it was worth. The result was selecting the best player availible...

This has suddenly become the most dangerous tandem of safetys in the league... and opens a whole new repertoire of possibilities. Landry is no Archuleta, despite the complaints. He does have cover skills, plus he is much faster than AA. And, like ST, he hits like a sledgehammer. He is very smart, and shown that he can position the DB's. Think about the poor receiver who is assigned to cross the middle.

I'm sure that the FO did what they could to trade down, to be in position to both select a DE in the appropriate value range, and to pick up an extra pick or two. Didn't happen. Personally, I'm thrilled that they are now treating these draft picks with the respect they should have, and I'm glad they went with the best player availible.

I believe that the doubters will soon be hoping we forget all about their complaints. This is a good deal... not the best we could have had, but that would have required another team to cooperate.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:33 pm

brad7686 wrote:What then is the point of keeping Fox and Prioleau and signing stoutmire,

Landry is a upgrade over both... using this logic safety is a bigger need than D-line :shock:

brad7686 wrote:there are like 8 safeties on the team.

More like 6 but special teams are built with LB and safeties. That's how guys like Stoutmire, Fox and Prioleau got roster spots to start with, other than Prioleeau "teams" will count if the others want to stay on the roster.

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:37 pm

Quinn was the one player we thought could help us trade down. He hasn't even been selected yet, so that idea was never going to happen. And if you look at who was drafted behind us, it seems clear, to me anyway, that there were no good trade offers, if any at all. The Skins clearly made the right choice at #6.

redskingush · Post by **redskingush** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:37 pm

Good Pick, but where's the pass rush coming from June 1st cuts?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:40 pm

I have heard from a lot of knowlegeable people lately that the safety position has become a very important part of most defenses recently - we have just ensured that we will have the best pair in the NFL :lol:

- IMO a great pick - plus a super job given we could not trade down.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:43 pm

I hope he can turn into an Ed Reed for us...that would be beyond incredible.

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:43 pm

SkinsJock wrote:we have just ensured that we will have the best pair in the NFL - IMO a great pick

The only concern is that they share the same strengths -- better up close, in-the-box, good on the blitz type.

Can either cover in the open field? (We've seen that ST struggles there)

SKINS#1 · Post by **SKINS#1** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:47 pm

The Redskins drafted the best available defensive player that should help the team for years. Exactly what JG said before the draft. Why the surprise or disappointment?

floridaskinsfan · Post by **floridaskinsfan** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:49 pm

since you know ll will cost us "at least two games" please also let me know what our overall record will be. Being "all knowing" must be a great gift

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:55 pm

RedskinsFreak wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:we have just ensured that we will have the best pair in the NFL - IMO a great pick

The only concern is that they share the same strengths -- better up close, in-the-box, good on the blitz type.

Can either cover in the open field? (We've seen that ST struggles there)

The safety position has been evolving in the NFL these days. With teams now putting a major emphasis on stud TE's and receiving RB's, safeties have much bigger defensive roles. They also have become great pass rushers (see Landry videos :wink:

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jeremyroyce · Post by **jeremyroyce** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:00 pm

Youn never know. They might start Laundry. But lets have confidence in Joe Gibbs and stop being critical.

ICEMAN · Post by **ICEMAN** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:06 pm

I cannot believe all of you doubters and naysayers on this pick...
This is truly the best pick at 6 that anyone could ever imagine. You all are probably the same fans who wanted the SKINS to draft Mike Williams a couple of years ago or Kellen Winslow Jr., over Sean Taylor.

I think I trust the people in charge and our head coach to judge talent and what or who would fit in for our ball club.

1inkster said it best..."this is a good pick". Landry is a true beast and will help to form one of the best defensive backfields in history. Many of you all will reap the benefits of this pick and jump on this moving bandwagon when you see him light up opposing defenders or intercept passes at will. You all heard all week long about how our coach, owner and Cerrato state that we would NOT draft on need, but on the best available player. Landry is clearly the best defensive player in the draft. Obviously, our FO was not impressed with any of the defensive tackles or ends to pick at that spot. I personally liked Jamaal Anderson, but even he was not a better pick than that of Landry at that spot. Plus no player is a guarantee anyway...there were fans on this board screaming for us to pick or draft Eramus James or Kenechi Udeze a couple of years back and those two are bubbling busts! Landry is a safe pick and a very good one at that. Besides, you all also heard all week at how Coach Gibbs stated that he was very satisfied and excited about our football team, especially at every position. We are a markedly better defense already with the acquisitions of Fletcher, Macklin, Smoot and Stoutmire (2 prior Redskins), a healthy Springs (who is still a top/elite corner in this league), an impressive Andre Carter, a third year experienced corner in the former Jim Thorpe Award winner, Carlos Rogers, a healthy safety/corner in P.P. And then you throw in Landry who will be devastating in the blitz packages or disguised coverages.

Goldston and Montgomery, are stronger and better, and we will have better attacking ways to generate any type of rush imaginable that includes our fast, attacking LB, McIntosh. Perhaps we will pick up LaVar and that will conclude the making of a number one defense or top three again.

Hail Redskins!!! Great pick!!!

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:09 pm

BTW - for those who question whether or not Landry will start, well... if there's anyone who can step in and start as a rookie for GW, its Landry. He is extremely smart and his coaches raved about his ability to pick things up quickly.

Let's not forget about his character either, as another reason why the Skins were so high on him. He's a good kid with a great head on his shoulders. I'm stoked! Taylor and Landry are going to strike fear in many teams. I can't wait to see them in action together.

Britskin · Post by **Britskin** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:13 pm

Its been interesting reading everyone`s reactions to this pick - We`re all pretty much split on it - I would have really liked us to pick up a couple of extra picks to replace the ones we threw away. But we haven`t got them - we`ve taken a top player that several other teams were after which has got to be great ( although I`d hoped that Stoutmire and Prioleau could have held down the position). Finally, we have to accept the restrictions that frittering away draft picks has placed on us this year. Not to have another pick until Rnd 5 is rediculous but that is the result of our recent FO decision making.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:22 pm

ICEMAN wrote:I cannot believe all of you doubters and naysayers on this pick...
This is truly the best pick at 6 that anyone could ever imagine. You all are probably the same fans who wanted the SKINS to draft Mike Williams a couple of years ago or Kellen Winslow Jr., over Sean Taylor. I think I trust the people in charge and our head coach to judge talent and what or who would fit in for our ball club.

1inkster said it best..."this is a good pick". Landry is a true beast and will help to form one of the best defensive backfields in history. Many of you all will reap the benefits of this pick and jump on this moving bandwagon when you see him light up opposing defenders or intercept passes at will. You all heard all week long about how our coach, owner and Cerrato state that we would NOT draft on need, but on the best available player. Landry is clearly the best defensive player in the draft. Obviously, our FO was not impressed with any of the defensive tackles or ends to pick at that spot. I personally liked Jamaal Anderson, but even he was not a better pick than that of Landry at that spot. Plus no player is a guarantee anyway...there were fans on this board screaming for us to pick or draft Eramus James or Kenechi Udeze a couple of years back and those two are bubbling busts! Landry is a safe pick and a very good one at that. Besides, you all also heard all week at how Coach Gibbs stated that he was very satisfied and excited about our football team, especially at every position. We are a markedly better defense already with the acquisitions of Fletcher, Macklin, Smoot and Stoutmire (2 prior Redskins), a healthy Springs (who is still a top/elite corner in this league), an impressive Andre Carter, a third year experienced corner in the former Jim Thorpe Award winner, Carlos Rogers, a healthy safety/corner in P.P. And then you throw in Landry who will be devastating in the blitz packages or disguised coverages.

Goldston and Montgomery, are stronger and better, and we will have better attacking ways to generate any type of rush imaginable that includes our fast, attacking LB, McIntosh. Perhaps we will pick up LaVar and that will conclude the making of a number one defense or top three again.

Hail Redskins!!! Great pick!!!

What do you say to the fact that Landry played hardly at all in both his junior and senior years. How can a guy who has at best limited college experience, a history of injury, and horrible stats for the last two years possibly be regarded as a logical or safe pick?

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:28 pm

My bad. Researching Landry, I looked at a site that apparently is wrong about Landry's stats and playing time for the last two years. I should have checked further.

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:34 pm

crazyhorse1 wrote:What do you say to the fact that Landry played hardly at all in both his junior and senior years. How can a guy who has at best limited college experience, a history of injury, and horrible stats for the last two years possibly be regarded as a logical or safe pick?

What? You obviously have him confused with someone else.

Hardly played in his junior and senior seasons? What?

SENIOR SEASON (2006)
The leader of LSU’s secondary, he is widely considered one of the best defensive backs in college football in 2006 ... The Tigers’ leading tackler, he had 74 stops on the year, a total that includes a team-best 46 solo tackles ... Also been credited with 3.5 tackles for loss, three interceptions, seven passes defended, four quarterback hurries and a forced fumble ... Closed out career with six tackles and an interception in LSU’s 41-14 win over Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl ... Registered a season-best 12 tackles and blocked a punt against Florida ... Was the Tigers’ leading tackler in their win over Arkansas, making nine stops, including seven solo tackles ... Also led the LSU defense in its win against Tennessee, registering seven tackles, a sack and a PBU ... Matched that seven tackle effort in the Tigers’ win over Ole Miss ... Other interceptions came in wins over Arizona and Arkansas ... The interception against Arkansas came in the fourth quarter and setup a Tiger touchdown just minutes later.

JUNIOR SEASON (2005)
Played and started all 13 games at free safety for the Tigers ... Named a third-team All-America by the Associated Press after recording 69 tackles, 4 tackles for loss and a sack ... Earned first-team All-SEC honors from the league’s coaches and was a second-team all-league pick by the AP ... Intercepted 3 passes to run his career total to 9, which ranks as the highest total among active players in the SEC ... Recorded season-high 11 tackles in overtime win over Auburn ... Add 7 tackles and a sack for a 10-yard loss against Alabama ... The sack on Alabama quarterback Brodie Croyle came early in the third quarter following an LSU touchdown that changed the complexion of the contest ... Intercepted a pass to stop an Arkansas drive late in the fourth quarter to ice the win for the Tigers ... Ranked among the SEC leaders in 2005 with 8 pass breakups.

A history of injury? What?

INJURY REPORT
2003: Missed the second half of the Arkansas game due to a concussion.

2006: Underwent surgery in January to remove a piece of bone from his right ankle and sat out spring drills.

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:35 pm

crazyhorse1 wrote:My bad. Researching Landry, I looked at a site that apparently is wrong about Landry's stats and playing time for the last two years. I should have checked further.

Cappster · Post by **Cappster** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:41 pm

jeremyroyce wrote:Youn never know. They might start Laundry. But lets have confidence in Joe Gibbs and stop being critical.

Landry will not start. GW will not allow a rookie to start opening day if anything for the simple fact that he wants to humble the player.