Will the Plane Take-Off

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:15 am

skinsfan#33 wrote:So are you in the land of reality or fantasy?

Which is the one where I am a wizard with super powers?

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:31 pm

Fios wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So are you in the land of reality or fantasy?

Which is the one where I am a wizard with super powers?

Ummmm... that would be the one we are currently in, your grace.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:42 pm

Countertrey wrote:
Fios wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So are you in the land of reality or fantasy?

Which is the one where I am a wizard with super powers?

Ummmm... that would be the one we are currently in, your grace.

You better believe it ... now bring me a dragon and a wench and some ale! I'm supposed to demand those things, loudly and often!

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:40 pm

So, NFL.com says we've re-signed Todd Wade. That's it then - I'm leaving this thread. Bye now.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:56 pm

Is it an English plane or an African plane? Is it carrying a coconut?

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:29 pm

JansenFan wrote:Is it an English plane or an African plane? Is it carrying a coconut?

Clearly not an English plane... most of those are made in France, now... scarey.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:55 pm

JansenFan wrote:Is it an English plane or an African plane? Is it carrying a coconut?

Planes don't migrate

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:32 pm

Fios wrote:
JansenFan wrote:Is it an English plane or an African plane? Is it carrying a coconut?

Planes don't migrate

I was not aware of that... errr... your grace.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:27 pm

Did it finally die?

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:43 pm

Countertrey wrote:
Fios wrote:
JansenFan wrote:Is it an English plane or an African plane? Is it carrying a coconut?

Planes don't migrate

I was not aware of that... errr... your grace.

I KNOW FACTS! BRING ME SOME TURKEY LEGS AND WINE GOBLETS AND MINSTRELS!

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:08 pm

Is Ditka driving the plane?

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:15 pm

God, I hope so. That'd mean we could draft additional copies of Samuels and Bailey, plus, pick up picks in the 2nd, third, and fourth rounds.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:24 pm

Fios wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
Fios wrote:
JansenFan wrote:Is it an English plane or an African plane? Is it carrying a coconut?

Planes don't migrate

I was not aware of that... errr... your grace.

I KNOW FACTS! BRING ME SOME TURKEY LEGS AND WINE GOBLETS AND MINSTRELS!

I heard minstrels taste like chicken

RayNAustin · Post by **RayNAustin** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:45 am

OF COURSE IT WILL TAKE OFF. No if, ands, or buts about it.

Jet planes create forward movement via the thrust of jet engines. That thrust will create the exact same acceleration regardless of whether the surface under the wheels is moving or not.

Just picture yourself on a treadmill. Strap a jet engine to your but. I don't care how fast that treadmill is turning backwards...you will move forward, I promise.

Thanks for the laugh though.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:34 am

RayNAustin wrote:OF COURSE IT WILL TAKE OFF. No if, ands, or buts about it.

Jet planes create forward movement via the thrust of jet engines. That thrust will create the exact same acceleration regardless of whether the surface under the wheels is moving or not.

Just picture yourself on a treadmill. Strap a jet engine to your but. I don't care how fast that treadmill is turning backwards...you will move forward, I promise.

Thanks for the laugh though.

The question is, how will the plane generate lift? The engines suck the plane forward through the air which flows over the wings for lift.

In this situation the engines are sucking but the plane isn't moving forward so there doesn't seem to be a way for the air to move over the wings to generate lift.

flamethrower · Post by **flamethrower** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:11 am

What if it is a V-TOL aircraft? Like the Harrier for example.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:16 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
RayNAustin wrote:OF COURSE IT WILL TAKE OFF. No if, ands, or buts about it.

Jet planes create forward movement via the thrust of jet engines. That thrust will create the exact same acceleration regardless of whether the surface under the wheels is moving or not.

Just picture yourself on a treadmill. Strap a jet engine to your but. I don't care how fast that treadmill is turning backwards...you will move forward, I promise.

Thanks for the laugh though.

The question is, how will the plane generate lift? The engines suck the plane forward through the air which flows over the wings for lift.

In this situation the engines are sucking but the plane isn't moving forward so there doesn't seem to be a way for the air to move over the wings to generate lift.

CLL,
The whole point is, there is no early way any treadmill could prevent a jet from moving forward. The thing can spin at light speed if it wants, the plane will still move forward (or the wheel beering will lock up and the tires will shread nad the plane will be thrown backwards - at light speed no less).
The thing will fly! Anyone that knows anything about aircraft will come to the same conclusion; the treadmill can't keep the plane stationary!

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:45 pm

The engines suck the plane forward through the air which flows over the wings for lift.

In this situation the engines are sucking

Mar 26, 2007
Texas A&M University

CLL discovers new form of aircraft propulsion.

In an interview with this reporter, Prof. CLL opined "with this new concept, the costs of air transportation can be dramatically reduced, and our dependence on foreign oil slashed. I have also discovered the suckiest mechanism on earth, which can be easily tapped for this purpose. The harnessing of Dallas Cowboys as propulsion devices should be relatively easy, and we can use as many as we need. I have calculated that it would require only 2 Cowboys (especially sucky Cowboys, such as Michael Irvin, and Terrell Owens , for example) could get a fully loaded 747 airborne, at the cost of 4 cans of B&M baked beans for a 7 hour flight. Philadelphia Eagles or NY Giants would also serve well for this purpose"

Fabulous! Unfortunately, CLL, it is thrust that moves an aircraft forward, not suckiness. :wink:

The plane... she will fly!

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:44 am

skinsfan#33 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
RayNAustin wrote:OF COURSE IT WILL TAKE OFF. No if, ands, or buts about it.

Jet planes create forward movement via the thrust of jet engines. That thrust will create the exact same acceleration regardless of whether the surface under the wheels is moving or not.

Just picture yourself on a treadmill. Strap a jet engine to your but. I don't care how fast that treadmill is turning backwards...you will move forward, I promise.

Thanks for the laugh though.

The question is, how will the plane generate lift? The engines suck the plane forward through the air which flows over the wings for lift.

In this situation the engines are sucking but the plane isn't moving forward so there doesn't seem to be a way for the air to move over the wings to generate lift.

CLL,
The whole point is, there is no early way any treadmill could prevent a jet from moving forward. The thing can spin at light speed if it wants, the plane will still move forward (or the wheel beering will lock up and the tires will shread nad the plane will be thrown backwards - at light speed no less).
The thing will fly! Anyone that knows anything about aircraft will come to the same conclusion; the treadmill can't keep the plane stationary!

At the speed of light the treadmill itself will become light and time will stop. See Einstein. Therefore, the plane will be trying to take off from what has become a timeless treadmill. Since speed itself is dependent on distance and time, the plane's speed will be zero. In fact, all motion is probably impossibe in timeless zones, such as heaven. Which, of course, eliminates the possiblility of after-life sex as we many have imagined it.i

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:50 pm

Some of us imagine "during-life" sex, too.
It's probably a more constructive way to spend time.
I do agree, though, that the forward motion would be limited to the treadmill.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:10 pm

At the speed of light the treadmill itself will become light and time will stop. See Einstein.

Isn't he dead? Who is going to enforce his stupid law if he's dead????

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:58 am

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:17 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

NO at some point that plane will crash into the treadmill and never get of the ground :shock:

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:36 am

Man, this problem is still bugging me.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:51 am

Really? I think the it-will take off arguments are much more persuasive than the it-won't version