Parcell's Retiring!!!!!!

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:23 pm

But he gave the team
a direction they could build upon for years to come..Young talent

Young Talent!?!??!?! ROTFALMAO

Keep going! Your turning this into a fun day!

TheBigTuna · Post by **TheBigTuna** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:30 pm

Ware, Spears, Canty, Carpenter, Watkins
Barber, Jones all young guys, The real fun will begin however when your next
pointless reply attempts to claim that
they aren't young and aren't real talent

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:31 pm

TheBigTuna wrote:You can laugh all you want but it only shows your inability to hear the truth

Ahhhhhhh, so when YOU speculate, it's "the truth" but when other people speculate or have the audacity to question your speculation, it's insanity.

forskins · Post by **forskins** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:33 pm

TheBigTuna wrote:Ware, Spears, Canty, Carpenter, Watkins
Barber, Jones all young guys, The real fun will begin however when your next
pointless reply attempts to claim that
they aren't young and aren't real talent

You forget Witten, Newman, and Romo. Yes, I said Romo...

TheBigTuna · Post by **TheBigTuna** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:39 pm

Fios wrote:
TheBigTuna wrote:You can laugh all you want but it only shows your inability to hear the truth

Ahhhhhhh, so when YOU speculate, it's "the truth" but when other people speculate or have the audacity to question your speculation, it's insanity.

You only assume I am speculating.

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:41 pm

TheBigTuna wrote:
Fios wrote:
TheBigTuna wrote:You can laugh all you want but it only shows your inability to hear the truth

Ahhhhhhh, so when YOU speculate, it's "the truth" but when other people speculate or have the audacity to question your speculation, it's insanity.

You only assume I am speculating.

You're only speculating that he's assuming that.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:43 pm

TheBigTuna wrote:Ware, Spears, Canty, Carpenter, Watkins
Barber, Jones all young guys, The real fun will begin however when your next
pointless reply attempts to claim that
they aren't young and aren't real talent

Again, that is YOUR evaluation, subjective by nature and thus not safe from any questioning. Are there players on the Cowboys who are young and talented? Yes. Does that mean I have to agree that each person on your list is? Nope. I'm still not sold on Jones, he can't seem to play consistently; Canty hasn't done anything to wow me, same with Watkins, the Cowboys secondary didn't exactly distinguish itself last season seeing as how the finished BEHIND the Redskins (admittedly awful) pass defense.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:49 pm

JSPB22 wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
TheBigTuna wrote:he realizes at 66..His better days are behind him and it's time to leave the game to the young guys who can be around longer than he can, He built the foundation of young talent, Now like the Giants, Jets and Patriots the Cowboys can use what Parcells did to spring board them to the next level that they want to go

He never left the Giants, Patriots or Jets seeming to care what happened to the team once he was gone. He'd screw them (Pats) and raid their staff and roster as much as possible. I just don't think he's thinking of himself as a Cowboy once he walks out the door. The reports even had him approaching the Giants about GM. I don't see it.

That's just a 'Pie fan trying to make it seem as if there is a bright side to this. Well... a bright side from their perspective; it's pretty bright from where I'm standing.

My question is: Has this most recent unretirement hurt the Fat Tuna's chances for induction into the HOF?

Huh? I didn't say there was any side to it. I was just saying he doesn't really care what shape he leaves them in. Personally I dont' care if he stays or goes.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:52 pm

TheBigTuna wrote:He left the Jets due to his health and the Patriots because Kraft and him were at odds over how to build the team, but things in Dallas were a lot different, Jerry gave Bill whatever he wanted. and as I stated before I think Bill may have been fooling him self if he thought he could still do it week in and week out. However he never quit and he gave it the ole college try. He can't be ashamed of what he's done during his coaching carrer and I think his time in Dallas, Has been productive and well spent

I suppose you have to play the hand you were dealt.

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:56 pm

I'll bet Parsmells met with Jerry Jones and asked him if TO would be brought back. Jones said "yep" and Bill said "see ya!"

I agree with SkinsChic about Romo crying like a little baby and that being the final straw...

or "sippy cup".

Bye, bye Billy!!!!!!!

He'll be commentating from the local "all you can eat" buffet. ROTFALMAO

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:10 pm

forskins wrote:
TheBigTuna wrote:Ware, Spears, Canty, Carpenter, Watkins
Barber, Jones all young guys, The real fun will begin however when your next
pointless reply attempts to claim that
they aren't young and aren't real talent

You forget Witten, Newman, and Romo. Yes, I said Romo...

Hey, forskins is back. Wow. You got slapped so bad last time that I thought you'd never be back... ok... I guess 'hoped' is a better word.

How funny is it that all these Puke fans always come back to THN. Poor bastards! The Pukes message boards must really suck.

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:11 pm

TheBigTuna wrote:Ware, Spears, Canty, Carpenter, Watkins
Barber, Jones all young guys, The real fun will begin however when your next
pointless reply attempts to claim that
they aren't young and aren't real talent

I like how you didn't mention Glenn, Newman or Williams! Seems like we're already in agreement that they suck!

I also like how you didn't mention Romo! Seems like we're aggreeing there too!

But, Jones???? Do you mean that little guy? The running back? The guy that looks for a spot to fall down? Nah, You can't mean him!

And Barber!?!?!??! Thats even worse then Little Jones! That dude can only carry the ball ten times a game!!! If he could carry it 20 times a game and put up those numbers....maybe! But 10!?!??! NO WAY!

Ware......wasn't Ware the guy that Cool

ey burned for the touchdown? Or was it Portis that burned him? Gosh, I forgot! Do you remember?

Snout · Post by **Snout** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:32 pm

Oh please, oh please, may Norv Turner become the next Cowboys coach.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:42 pm

SkinsFreak wrote:
forskins wrote:
TheBigTuna wrote:Ware, Spears, Canty, Carpenter, Watkins
Barber, Jones all young guys, The real fun will begin however when your next
pointless reply attempts to claim that
they aren't young and aren't real talent

You forget Witten, Newman, and Romo. Yes, I said Romo...

Hey, forskins is back. Wow. You got slapped so bad last time that I thought you'd never be back... ok... I guess 'hoped' is a better word.

How funny is it that all these Puke fans always come back to THN. Poor bastards! The Pukes message boards must really suck.

For(e)skins got slapped? That's funny.

sprintbomb1991 · Post by **sprintbomb1991** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:00 pm

i'm hoping like hell here that russ grimm does'nt defect to the"Evil Empire"
after losing the head coaching job in pittsburg!

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:19 pm

4 years, 0 playoff wins.

Sounds a lot like Dave Campo.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:39 pm

I'm not going to come up here and laugh at Bill Parcells. Matter of fact, he may be one of my favorite coaches in the NFL. But I am a type of guy who loves a coach who comes in, grabs the team by the horns, and gets it straight. Bill did that at every stop. He is a good coach. We wouldn't have laughed so much had Romo been able to hold that PKing snap and the kick had been good. You have to admit that they would have gone pretty far in the PO's. Even though we have a rivalry, and I just as much as anyone hate...and I mean hate...the cowboys but I do have respect for them because in all reality, they are a good team and you cant knock them on that.

forskins · Post by **forskins** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:20 pm

frankcal20 wrote:I'm not going to come up here and laugh at Bill Parcells. Matter of fact, he may be one of my favorite coaches in the NFL. But I am a type of guy who loves a coach who comes in, grabs the team by the horns, and gets it straight. Bill did that at every stop. He is a good coach. We wouldn't have laughed so much had Romo been able to hold that PKing snap and the kick had been good. You have to admit that they would have gone pretty far in the PO's. Even though we have a rivalry, and I just as much as anyone hate...and I mean hate...the cowboys but I do have respect for them because in all reality, they are a good team and you cant knock them on that.

Wow, I'm shocked. :shock:

A Redskin fan with a sense of reality. =D>

To be honest, I'm glad the old man is leaving. He was obviously showing his age when he refused to change his gameplan when it was obvious that the Saints, the Eagles, heck, even the Lions had his number.

Still, they were still good enough to put the brakes on Peyton and the Colts...

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:47 pm

forskins wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:I'm not going to come up here and laugh at Bill Parcells. Matter of fact, he may be one of my favorite coaches in the NFL. But I am a type of guy who loves a coach who comes in, grabs the team by the horns, and gets it straight. Bill did that at every stop. He is a good coach. We wouldn't have laughed so much had Romo been able to hold that PKing snap and the kick had been good. You have to admit that they would have gone pretty far in the PO's. Even though we have a rivalry, and I just as much as anyone hate...and I mean hate...the cowboys but I do have respect for them because in all reality, they are a good team and you cant knock them on that.

Wow, I'm shocked. A Redskin fan with a sense of reality.

To be honest, I'm glad the old man is leaving. He was obviously showing his age when he refused to change his gameplan when it was obvious that the Saints, the Eagles, heck, even the Lions had his number.

Still, they were still good enough to put the brakes on Peyton and the Colts...

I don't think anyone said he was a bad coach. It's just that he coached all the teams I dislike. Therefore, he's subject to this kind of stuff.

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:48 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
SkinsFreak wrote:
forskins wrote:
TheBigTuna wrote:Ware, Spears, Canty, Carpenter, Watkins
Barber, Jones all young guys, The real fun will begin however when your next
pointless reply attempts to claim that
they aren't young and aren't real talent

You forget Witten, Newman, and Romo. Yes, I said Romo...

Hey, forskins is back. Wow. You got slapped so bad last time that I thought you'd never be back... ok... I guess 'hoped' is a better word.

How funny is it that all these Puke fans always come back to THN. Poor bastards! The Pukes message boards must really suck.

For(e)skins got slapped? That's funny.

forskins · Post by **forskins** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:49 pm

Redskins Rule wrote:
I like how you didn't mention Glenn, Newman or Williams! Seems like we're already in agreement that they suck!

Glenn is 31, not exactly a guy you would call young talent. I'm not taking anything away from him, he's still better then most second receivers on any team in the NFL, with exception to Indy. And no, I'm not going to mention T.O. as young talent. Who happened to lead the NFL in TDs this year, while still having the most dropped passes? How many would have he have caught if he didn't hurt his hand? Who knows?

I mentioned Newman, the guy should have been in the Pro-Bowl twice now. That's what happens when you are a shut-down corner, nobody throws at you. Just ask Steve Smith. Oh wait, here it comes those two plays by Moss two years ago right?? Thought so.

Williams, the guy is in the Pro-bowl for a reason and how many INTs did he have this year? One less then all of the Redskins combined?

Redskins Rule wrote:I also like how you didn't mention Romo! Seems like we're agreeing there too!

How long was he at the top of the NFL QB ratings? Oh wait, against weak defenses. Yup, Indy and the Gnats are both weak defenses alright. He eventually finished 5th in QB ratings. Only Huard (only 8 starts), McNadds, Brees, and Peyton Manning had higher ratings this year.

He's also in the Pro-bowl, imagine that!

Just wait until this guy gets a full training camp. You can call the botched hold whatever you want, but, it was still just a fluke play that in no way determines the level of his Quarterback skills.

Redskins Rule wrote:Ware......wasn't Ware the guy that ey burned for the touchdown? Or was it Portis that burned him? Gosh, I forgot! Do you remember?

Oh wait, are we living in season 2005 again? Wasn't that his rookie year? Oh, I'm sorry, you must have missed THIS season where he made the Pro-bowl. He did happen to make 11.5 sacks, whereas the Redskins only had 19 for the entire team? You know, I just happened to notice that this year too.

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:52 pm

Foreskins- You can't possibly think Romo deserves to be in the Pro Bowl.

I think that the Cowboys have 3 Pro Bowl players: Newman, Ware, and McBriar.

Romo shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl and Roy Williams going is an absolute atrocity. The guy is a laughingstock.

Literally, he is a laughingstock. On NFL Countdown last week Irvin was talking about how Jerramy Stevens had beaten Roy several times in the Wild Card game. Then all the guys laughed and Irvin said "Well, everyone is beating Roy lately"

My point is that going to the Pro Bowl doesn't mean you're really any good. The Pro Bowl is a joke.

forskins · Post by **forskins** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:00 pm

JPM36 wrote:Foreskins- You can't possibly think Romo deserves to be in the Pro Bowl.

I think that the Cowboys have 3 Pro Bowl players: Newman, Ware, and McBriar.

Romo shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl and Roy Williams going is an absolute atrocity. The guy is a laughingstock.

Literally, he is a laughingstock. On NFL Countdown last week Irvin was talking about how Jerramy Stevens had beaten Roy several times in the Wild Card game. Then all the guys laughed and Irvin said "Well, everyone is beating Roy lately"

My point is that going to the Pro Bowl doesn't mean you're really any good. The Pro Bowl is a joke.

Name one quarterback outside of Brees in the NFC that is worthy of going??

Garcia? maybe, but not enough starts.
Vick? puhlease!!
Grossman?? Yeah right!!

BnGhog · Post by **BnGhog** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:57 pm

You do know the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest right. Has nothing to do with skill level. So what Jessica Simpson voted a million times for Romo. You must think he's cute too! :oops:

Real football fans wouldn't have voted for him. Just so happens that 50% of Cowgirl fans are, Well, cowgirls. Most likely don't even know the game.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:16 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
TheBigTuna wrote:he realizes at 66..His better days are behind him and it's time to leave the game to the young guys who can be around longer than he can, He built the foundation of young talent, Now like the Giants, Jets and Patriots the Cowboys can use what Parcells did to spring board them to the next level that they want to go

He never left the Giants, Patriots or Jets seeming to care what happened to the team once he was gone. He'd screw them (Pats) and raid their staff and roster as much as possible. I just don't think he's thinking of himself as a Cowboy once he walks out the door. The reports even had him approaching the Giants about GM. I don't see it.

That's just a 'Pie fan trying to make it seem as if there is a bright side to this. Well... a bright side from their perspective; it's pretty bright from where I'm standing.

My question is: Has this most recent unretirement hurt the Fat Tuna's chances for induction into the HOF?

Huh? I didn't say there was any side to it. I was just saying he doesn't really care what shape he leaves them in. Personally I dont' care if he stays or goes.

Reread my post. I never said you did. I was explaining FatTuna's motivation.