Nick Novak

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:55 pm

Listen, like most other Redskins fans, I became huge fan of Nick Novak after the Cowboys win.

Looking at what the kid has actually done as a kicker thus far, however, has not been very impressive.

So far, he has converted just 3-of-7 field goal attempts this season, missing wide-right on all too many of them.

What do y'all think? Should the Skins continue to stick by Novak and let's just see what happens....or should the Skins be on the market for yet another kicker?

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:59 pm

"Fear the Turtle" is so fitting for this kid. :lol:

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:06 pm

He's being set up to fail by the coaching staff. Look at his miss yesterday: they had him kicking a 48yd. FG attempt (a career high for him had he made it!!) on a rainy, blustery day with poor (slippery) field conditions because the coaching staff had no faith in Brunell to convert the first down. Few kickers would've made a 48 yarder in such conditions. Philly never asked Akers to kick from 40+ yesterday. I'm not ready to dump Novak yet.

HailSkins94 · Post by **HailSkins94** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:31 pm

I think we still need to wait and see how he does. 49 and 48 yarders in a down pour arent gimmes. Especially for a young kicker who hasnt kicked a full season yet. This season is cooked anyway so we should let him finish out and see how he does.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:32 pm

I think you also face a fundamental question of "who else is there?"

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:58 pm

Fios wrote:I think you also face a fundamental question of "who else is there?"

Plenty. If we had a scouting department that could look past name value. If the Pats can let go of Adam and find a young replacement, it can't be that hard.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:04 pm

So Novak has name value? Are you seriously suggesting the team didn't consider all possible options when looking for Hall's replacement? Come on man, I know the FO has made some bad choices but that is ridiculous.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:12 pm

Fios wrote:So Novak has name value? Are you seriously suggesting the team didn't consider all possible options when looking for Hall's replacement? Come on man, I know the FO has made some bad choices but that is ridiculous.

I think you misunderstood me. I was talking about during this upcoming offseason. I was also talking about how our FO (sarcastically) need a big name to sign someone.

Now I do have a big issue with how this situation was NOT addressed last offseason. Gibbs and company KNEW Hall wasn't able to kick off for us. If he can't kick off then that means he's not 100% They went into the season with a questionable kicker and a questionable punter. I mean, how can that be overlooked when the Skins love to get tons of people via F/A?

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:22 pm

I like the kid and feel he still deserves a chance. I'm really pulling for him.

I'm a Maryland alum, so this is obviously a little biased.

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:27 pm

His lack of leg strength really worries me. His kickoffs usually land around the 15 or 20 and that's pretty pathetic. I agree 100% with CLL. The kicking and punting situations should've been addressed in the offseason. Unfortunately the front office was too busy chasing after AA and Carter.

roybus14 · Post by **roybus14** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:44 pm

Keep Novak and improve the other things. If we can put up 20+ points a game and keep our "core guys" on defense to post a top ten defense, then it won't matter if Novak's kickoffs are short.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:45 pm

roybus14 wrote:Keep Novak and improve the other things. If we can put up 20+ points a game and keep our "core guys" on defense to post a top ten defense, then it won't matter if Novak's kickoffs are short.

Are you serious? Thats the same crap that is screwing us this year. As soon as we start losing games do to missed FG's you'll complain.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:00 pm

I'm telling you, we should draft Mason Crosby, the Kicker from Colorado in the FIRST ROUND.

Everyone always laugh when you say we should get a kicker in the 1st Round, but think about how many games are decided by 3 points or less.

And Crosby is crazy clutch and consitently nails 60 Yarders.

I seriously woud be thrilled if the Skins got him in the first Round.

roybus14 · Post by **roybus14** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:06 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
roybus14 wrote:Keep Novak and improve the other things. If we can put up 20+ points a game and keep our "core guys" on defense to post a top ten defense, then it won't matter if Novak's kickoffs are short.

Are you serious? Thats the same crap that is screwing us this year. As soon as we start losing games do to missed FG's you'll complain.

Nope.... I am man enough to say that I got that one wrong. I think that you missed the point and that is if we handle our business on the offense and get the defense back to where it was a year ago, it is less likely to catch up to us. But if they can draft or find another kicker better than Novak, more power to them and good luck...

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:12 pm

roybus14 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
roybus14 wrote:Keep Novak and improve the other things. If we can put up 20+ points a game and keep our "core guys" on defense to post a top ten defense, then it won't matter if Novak's kickoffs are short.

Are you serious? Thats the same crap that is screwing us this year. As soon as we start losing games do to missed FG's you'll complain.

Nope.... I am man enough to say that I got that one wrong. I think that you missed the point and that is if we handle our business on the offense and get the defense back to where it was a year ago, it is less likely to catch up to us. But if they can draft or find another kicker better than Novak, more power to them and good luck...

I didnt miss it. I saw that big IF in your statement. How about we have a viable kicker and handle our business?

roybus14 · Post by **roybus14** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:17 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
roybus14 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
roybus14 wrote:Keep Novak and improve the other things. If we can put up 20+ points a game and keep our "core guys" on defense to post a top ten defense, then it won't matter if Novak's kickoffs are short.

Are you serious? Thats the same crap that is screwing us this year. As soon as we start losing games do to missed FG's you'll complain.

Nope.... I am man enough to say that I got that one wrong. I think that you missed the point and that is if we handle our business on the offense and get the defense back to where it was a year ago, it is less likely to catch up to us. But if they can draft or find another kicker better than Novak, more power to them and good luck...

I didnt miss it. I saw that big IF in your statement. How about we have a viable kicker and handle our business?

Well everything is a big IF in this league. Okay, we sign a true kicker and he get's injured on the kick-off. Then what? There ain't nothing guaranteed in this league. This league only has maybe 3-4 quality kickers in it anyway.

Gibbs' Hog · Post by **Gibbs' Hog** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:18 pm

Novak sucks. Look, he gets props for a major game-winner - but even that kick slowed my heart rate to 10 bpm. Why is it so hard to get a reliable kicker these days? You don't have to be able to make the 60+ yarder IMO, but anything less than 40 should go in 95% of the time.

Time to look elsewhere. It's only a matter of time before he misses a kick in the final seconds - and we lose by a point or two.

HailSkins94 · Post by **HailSkins94** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:30 pm

Gibbs' Hog wrote:Novak sucks. Look, he gets props for a major game-winner - but even that kick slowed my heart rate to 10 bpm. Why is it so hard to get a reliable kicker these days? You don't have to be able to make the 60+ yarder IMO, but anything less than 40 should go in 95% of the time.

Time to look elsewhere. It's only a matter of time before he misses a kick in the final seconds - and we lose by a point or two.

Like John Hall?

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:31 pm

roybus14 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
roybus14 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
roybus14 wrote:Keep Novak and improve the other things. If we can put up 20+ points a game and keep our "core guys" on defense to post a top ten defense, then it won't matter if Novak's kickoffs are short.

Are you serious? Thats the same crap that is screwing us this year. As soon as we start losing games do to missed FG's you'll complain.

Nope.... I am man enough to say that I got that one wrong. I think that you missed the point and that is if we handle our business on the offense and get the defense back to where it was a year ago, it is less likely to catch up to us. But if they can draft or find another kicker better than Novak, more power to them and good luck...

I didnt miss it. I saw that big IF in your statement. How about we have a viable kicker and handle our business?

Well everything is a big IF in this league. Okay, we sign a true kicker and he get's injured on the kick-off. Then what? There ain't nothing guaranteed in this league. This league only has maybe 3-4 quality kickers in it anyway.

Dude you're reaching. A bird could poop on his shoe and cus it to shank too. :roll:

All we can do is get the best players for the team and that put us in a position to win. Not having a good kicker puts is in a position to lose. We can control what we can, why not control what you can?

RagingRigginz · Post by **RagingRigginz** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:39 pm

they should look at connor hughes. the kicker out of UVA , was up for the Groza Award since his sophomore season, absolutely pinpoint deadly kicker. not the strongest leg in the world, but just as good as gostkowski the Pat kicker. I watched them go toe to toe earlier last spring. No one has picked him up yet suprisingly, i wishi they would give him a look

HitDoctor · Post by **HitDoctor** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:27 pm

SkinzCanes wrote:His lack of leg strength really worries me. His kickoffs usually land around the 15 or 20 and that's pretty pathetic. I agree 100% with CLL. The kicking and punting situations should've been addressed in the offseason. Unfortunately the front office was too busy chasing after AA and Carter.

yup, your right. get rid of him at the end of the season--->GET A GM--->get a kicker.......IN THE DRAFT!!!!!

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:22 am

We need to find a legitimate kicker in the offseason.

Novak is a good story and he came through against Dallas, but does anyone really feel comfortable with him on anything over 45 yards?

I absolutely do not.

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