LaVar interview

Redskins1974 · Post by **Redskins1974** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:10 pm

If he wants to try and go somewhere else, that's his deal. I completely realize I'm a fan and it's all about the money now in pro sports. My point really is that a contract is contract, he signed it and it should be honored (from a legal standpoint). I want him on this team and it's time for his agent and the redskins to step up to the plate and work it out. If they can't, so be it - we'll find other players with the cap room created by him walking. I want to see Lavar's full potential be realized as a Redskin. That's my #1 hope but it has to be worked out ASAP.

tx_skins_fan · Post by **tx_skins_fan** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:13 pm

Go back and read this article that Jake posted a couple days ago. It says that there is a bonus of 6.5 million for 2006 already there. Isn't it possible that used to be 6.66 mil, and the Redskins changed it to 6.5 mil at Lavar's request? Since the alleged agreement was over the phone, the wording of this may have caused Lavar and his agent to think there was an additional 6.5 mil there. Again, why would the 'Skins set themselves up to have to pay 18.5 mil to Lavar in 2006? It doesn't make sense. I think Lavar misunderstood, and he will be disappointed when it doesn't change. Remember the cliche, money is the root of all evil. Lavar wasn't scared to ask for a whole lot of evil, was he? Maybe he should have just left the 6.66 alone, and none of this would have happened.

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SirSmizzy · Post by **SirSmizzy** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:09 pm

tx_skins_fan wrote:Go back and read this article that Jake posted a couple days ago. It says that there is a bonus of 6.5 million for 2006 already there. Isn't it possible that used to be 6.66 mil, and the Redskins changed it to 6.5 mil at Lavar's request? Since the alleged agreement was over the phone, the wording of this may have caused Lavar and his agent to think there was an additional 6.5 mil there. Again, why would the 'Skins set themselves up to have to pay 18.5 mil to Lavar in 2006? It doesn't make sense. I think Lavar misunderstood, and he will be disappointed when it doesn't change. Remember the cliche, money is the root of all evil. Lavar wasn't scared to ask for a whole lot of evil, was he? Maybe he should have just left the 6.66 alone, and none of this would have happened.

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He's was owed the 6.5 for a roster bonus...the 6.5 you are talking about is the next roster bonus...in a couple years.

Why would he agree to forget about 6.5 he just earned to sign a contract that says he will get the same 6.5 later,after he earns it somemore?

Granted he signed the contract....but if he wants to make a big enough stink about it...the NFL will let him have his way...ie Terrell Owens.

Guess what?he's making a stink about it.

I don't really want to fight about lavar arrington on a friday night.

Just hope the skins realize its far worse to alienate your franchise player than it is to cough up 6.5 extra...no matter who's right...agreed?

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:16 pm

That depends...what impact does it have to the cap?? Yes we must be careful, there is a point of no return i.e. Champ. It could escalate to the point were 6.5 isn't enough to mend the tude Lavar will have if it isn't righted.

SirSmizzy · Post by **SirSmizzy** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:19 pm

DEHog wrote:That depends...what impact does it have to the cap?? Yes we must be careful, there is a point of no return i.e. Champ. It could escalate to the point were 6.5 isn't enough to mend the tude Lavar will have if it isn't righted.

I say find the most cap friendly way to get him this cash and do it.

Tell brunnell or Portis to give it to him.

SirSmizzy · Post by **SirSmizzy** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:21 pm

Tell Snyder to invite Lavar over for poker night...then lose 6.5 to him.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:21 pm

i too, would be offended by all this "666" nonsense in a deal, wait a minute..... #-o

tx_skins_fan · Post by **tx_skins_fan** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:22 pm

If any of us were offered a huge raise, big enough to make us the highest paid in our field, would anyone complain if it had three 6's in the number? If he's that much of a christian, he could donate a million to his church, and change the number to 5.66 mil. Being a believer myself, numbers don't frighten me. It just seems silly for this whole thing to be happening because of some numbers.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:22 pm

SirSmizzy wrote:
DEHog wrote:That depends...what impact does it have to the cap?? Yes we must be careful, there is a point of no return i.e. Champ. It could escalate to the point were 6.5 isn't enough to mend the tude Lavar will have if it isn't righted.
I say find the most cap friendly way to get him this cash and do it.

Tell brunnell or Portis to give it to him.

Yea right...Brunell won't be here long enough and Portis already spent his :lol:

tx_skins_fan · Post by **tx_skins_fan** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:25 pm

DEHog wrote:Yea right...Brunell won't be here long enough and Portis already spent his

I think we'll hear from the woman that gave Portis 6000 lap dances pretty soon.

SirSmizzy · Post by **SirSmizzy** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:40 pm

tx_skins_fan wrote:If any of us were offered a huge raise, big enough to make us the highest paid in our field, would anyone complain if it had three 6's in the number

What if....

You boss says to you..."look _____...work for me for these next 3-4 years for this set price,plus if you come to work every day for those 3-4 years ill throw in an extra $650"

Then when its time for your raise...he offers you the same "roster bonus"...however he never gave you the last one you earned.

Do you make a stink about it.

cjpck44 · Post by **cjpck44** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:43 pm

I like Lavar and all but I think we all agree the worst thing to happen to sports are player agents. Why does it sound like everyone is against Snyder? He has never skimped in paying people money. And if Lavar's right than his cap number is 18.5 million in 2006? Does that even sound remotely plausible? Not even Peyton Mannings' deal has a number like that in it.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:46 am

cjpck44 wrote: Why does it sound like everyone is against Snyder? He has never skimped in paying people money.

I might be wrong but....I think Champ Bailey would disagree with you.

cjpck44 · Post by **cjpck44** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:20 am

I'd agree with you thereon Champ, but let me modify it. Snyder has never skimped on paying money to people he wants. And Lavar is someone he wants. If we look and Champ's deal versus Portis' deal than we all know that we made out under tha cap. Anyone who pays that kind of cap-eating money for a corner (and I love Champ) is not going to be able to help the whole team. Give props to Synder for realizing it and though we all hate losing Champ we still got a better team for it.

And there's not too many examples I think of people saying Snyder underpaid for someone.

cjpck44 · Post by **cjpck44** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:23 am

And I still think that what Lavar's saying sounds weird. 18 million in 2006? Can anyone name one person that counts that high in the salary cap? Anyone?

CHAZZ777 · Post by **CHAZZ777** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:57 pm

. [Remember the cliche, money is the root of all evil. Lavar wasn't scared to ask for a whole lot of evil, was he? Maybe he should have just left the 6.66 alone, and none of this would have happened.]

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It's the love of money that is root of all evil[/quote]

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:26 pm

How about this ? Let's say LaVar loses the case, and has to play for what he signed.
Now, the Redskins come to him in 2006 and say, Hey, Lavar ! We need to sign Patches to a long-term deal. You're taking up all this space. What do you say we just renegotiate and..."
Uh-uh ! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

CHAZZ777 · Post by **CHAZZ777** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:23 pm

tcwest10 wrote:How about this ? Let's say LaVar loses the case, and has to play for what he signed.
Now, the Redskins come to him in 2006 and say, Hey, Lavar ! We need to sign Patches to a long-term deal. You're taking up all this space. What do you say we just renegotiate and..."
Uh-uh ! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

AND THEN IT TRICKLES DOWN TO THE WHOLE TEAM.......PLEASE GIVE THE MAN HIS $$$$$$$$$

CHAZZ777 · Post by **CHAZZ777** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:28 pm

tx_skins_fan wrote:If any of us were offered a huge raise, big enough to make us the highest paid in our field, would anyone complain if it had three 6's in the number? If he's that much of a christian, he could donate a million to his church, and change the number to 5.66 mil. Being a believer myself, numbers don't frighten me. It just seems silly for this whole thing to be happening because of some numbers.

EXELLENT SUGGESTION ITS NOT LIKE THE CONTRACT STATED HE HAD TO TATOO 666 TO HIS FOREHEAD

SirSmizzy · Post by **SirSmizzy** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:31 pm

tcwest10 wrote:How about this ? Let's say LaVar loses the case, and has to play for what he signed.
Now, the Redskins come to him in 2006 and say, Hey, Lavar ! We need to sign Patches to a long-term deal. You're taking up all this space. What do you say we just renegotiate and..."
Uh-uh ! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

Bingo!

redskinsranger · Post by **redskinsranger** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:15 pm

we're losing our defense...armstead, bruce, bailey...we truly cant afford to lose lavar. Plus he's my fav backer in the NFL. I just hope they can settle this whole ordeal :-(

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:08 pm

I slapped myself in the forehead so hard I drew blood when I read what RedskinsRanger wrote:we're losing our defense...armstead, bruce, bailey...we truly cant afford to lose lavar. Plus he's my fav backer in the NFL. I just hope they can settle this whole ordeal

No, no, no, my brother. We had no defense. What we're doing is fixing things. Bruce was done, man. Jessie could've done another year or two, but he couldn't do what Williams needs his 'backers to do. Bailey wasn't coming back. Even if he was considering it, he wanted a cool 9 million dollars to do it.
You're still brand new, at least to me. I just noticed your posts the other day for the first time. So, here's the deal. Welcome to the Hogs.net . You're gonna learn a lot while you're here, and there's a good chance we'll pick up a thing or two from you. This sound of despair in your writing has got to go. It's all good.
Are you old enough to remember Gibbs the last time around, or no ? It's an honest question.

Doughboy · Post by **Doughboy** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:54 am

tcwest10 wrote:How about this ? Let's say LaVar loses the case, and has to play for what he signed.
Now, the Redskins come to him in 2006 and say, Hey, Lavar ! We need to sign Patches to a long-term deal. You're taking up all this space. What do you say we just renegotiate and..."
Uh-uh ! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

But if LA wins the case, then in 2006 the Redskins will HAVE to renegotiate or cut LA before the TWO 6.5 mil roster bonuses kick in.

Magoo · Post by **Magoo** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:32 am

Down here in the ATL we don't get much Skins news.

Has anybody up in DC heard any reports about wether or not Lavar is going to come to mini-camp next week, or is he going to skip it because of the contract dispute?

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:43 am

Mr. Arrington has gone to some lengths to make it known that his beef is with the FO and not the team, the staff or the fans.
Showing up at the mini-camp, if his attendance is requested by the staff, will go a long way to proving that.