Are you saying I'm some sort of clown here to amuse you?
Ummmmmmm...
Yes.
Probably none, since Pelosi wants Bush around to spark the needed investigations that could cost the Republicans huge losses for a decade. Only the tip of the the Republican criminal and treasonous iceberg has been exposed so far. A hard rain is gonna fall.
Aren't you the guy who thought the democrats could take neither the House nor Senate?
.....Well, I guess that's a wrap. Taiphoon, using all of his legal expertise, has methodically identified all the potential charges and has determined that none of them are impeachable. I'm glad that's over with. Now we can spend our time deciding where to put Bush on Mount Rushmore.
thaiphoon wrote:CH1 - We've been over what you think are impeachable offenses. They aren't... but nice try anyway. Good luck getting the blue-dog Democrats you just got elected as freshman to go along with impeachment. Additionally, even if you had whacked-out San Francisco libs as every member of the Dem House you still would be stuck with Bush even if you guys did manage to impeach him. I hope I don't have to explain why to you.Probably none, since Pelosi wants Bush around to spark the needed investigations that could cost the Republicans huge losses for a decade. Only the tip of the the Republican criminal and treasonous iceberg has been exposed so far. A hard rain is gonna fall.
God I hope they start the investigations in hour 101. I really do.It would hasten the return of the very close seats( that the Dems won in Red states) back to the GOP in 2008. so, please, by all means, bring on the investigations. And while we're at it, lets investigate William Jefferson and Harry Reid too.
Aren't you the guy who thought the democrats could take neither the House nor Senate?
I made my predictions as "anyone's ballgame" about 3-4 weeks out of the election. I thought the Dems would win the House when it was about 3-4 weeks out but I wasn't entirely sure since anything can change even in a span of a few days. I was fairly confident that the GOP would hold onto a slim majority in the Senate as I didn't think George allen would continue to run such a feckless campaign and respond to the mud slinging thrown his way. Alas, instead of attacks on the issues, he responded to the Webb campaign's and the Washington Posts personal attacks with more personal attacks. Bad move.
Except for the fact that it emboldens our enemies around the world and they are counting the days till the Dems defund everything and we chopper out our last troops and they can replay 1974-1980 all over again - this was actually a GOOD thing for our country. The GOP can shake loose the dead-weight and return to the roots that they abandoned (and which many conservatives made them pay for in this election). Additionally, Dems held the House for 40 years, the GOP for the last 12. Even if the Dems hold it for 2, 4 or even 6 years it will swing back to the GOP in a smaller timetable. After which it will probably swing back and forth about every 2 - 3 elections. This is good for us as citizens as lobbyists can't get too far with any politician of any political stripe when they have to switch in the next election. Additionally chairmen will realize that it could be soon they are in the minority and will work to include the current minority on legislation instead of ignoring them. So its good for our democracy in a way that the pendulum swings both ways at different times. This is why I am not raving like some leftists have on these boards about stolen elections, etc... I'm more sanguine about it. The people have spoken and now's the time to work for them again and earn their trust back in 2 years.
As for the Senate, for the GOP politically (ecept for the lack of committe chairmanships) it is better to have 49 seats than 51. I , again, trust I do not have to explain why to you.
Finally the BEST reason I have for the Dems taking the House and Senate now that they did it is this -> The Dems are now on the clock and on notice. Since they are in charge of the Legislative Branch they now own part of the Iraq theatre of the War on Terror from here on out. They will share in the blame for how it is prosecuted (how big a share is up to each voter of course). They campaigned without a plan (just on the theme of "we're not Bush"). They now have to come up with one that achieves victory and not papers over a defeat they seem to favor (witness Nancy Pelosi's statements to Britt Hume on Fox News when she said "that the war in Iraq is 'not a war to be won but a situation to be solved.") Its like the dog that chases after cars hoping to catch one, and one day he finally does. So the back seat drivers in the Democratic Party will finally have to go on record and present a plan for what they think is the best course instead of always complaining that we just missed a turn.
If the dems don't step up, however, I hope your party can supply some actual conservatives the next time around. Leave your big spenders, looters, religious fascists, bunko artists, liars, corporate thieves
thaiphoon wrote:If the dems don't step up, however, I hope your party can supply some actual conservatives the next time around. Leave your big spenders, looters, religious fascists, bunko artists, liars, corporate thieves
At least we agree on something (except the phony patriots and racists - not sure I agree with you that the labels stick). I'd like for the Dems to leave behind their big spenders, looters, enviro-facists, bunko artists, liars and all around general thieves. And in the meantime, if we're having investigations of anyone on the GOP, fairness dictates that someone needs to investigate Reid, Jefferson and Menendez.
Ok...yes I copied you but so what
Look, I really hope as a partisan that the Dems don't step up and become responsbile adults. This would hasten the return of the GOP to the chairmanships in Congress.
But as an American I truly hope that they do. I hope that with the Dems now having to assume blame if things don't go well that they actually stop standing in the way of the US on the War. I truly hope this will begin some bipartisanship on the War.
Peggy Noonan had a great article today. I pretty much agree with most (if not all) of what she said. Here it is;
http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/pn ... =110009221
Yes yes, even though she was a speechwriter for Reagan she makes some points I think you'd agree on too.
Good stuff and something that echoes what I said earlier.
dnpmakkah wrote:Bush looks so worn down. I think he knows history will portray him as a failure and his time in office as the 'dark years'.
ATV wrote:"Every president looks horrible by the time they leave office."
I disagree. I thought Clinton was fine, other than the blow job which the Republicans were determined to capitalize on. That's about all they had. How was Roosevelt doing when he left office? Or Lincoln? You can't tell me this is different because we were a Nation at conflict.
Bush is one of the most, if not THE most, incompetent president in our nation's history. It's that simple.
Yep I heard that earlier too. Amazing isn't it? Puzzle pieces of this jigsaw are falling into place. Not like anything is going to come of it but at least it will put into place those who think they are above the law.crazyhorse1 wrote:Oh, oh. CIA has just announced that it was authorized to "torture" by Presidential order.