Why is Gibbs sticking with Brunell?

[FiveWidez]

I am starting to believe it has so much to-do with their encounter in FL when Gibbs had his health issue and Brunell "saved" his life. This ties into them both being EXTREMELY religious. Now I am a god-fearing man but I am not a part of the "Christian Right" or whatever they are called. I am just posing the point that maybe Gibbs feels like he owes his "Christian Brother" for saving his life. I don't know. Maybe I am just searching for an answer. Anyway, below are some interesting religious articles on Brunell.


http://www.acfnewsource.org/religion/fo ... hurch.html

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethi ... cover.html

[joebagadonuts]

My sense is that Gibbs knows enough to have a general separation of church and football. I think he truly believes that MB gives the team the best chance to win every week. If he's blind to MB's weaknesses, I think it has more to do with his preference for veteran QBs than it does his faith.

[Skinsfan55]

You can get me to believe that Brunell was given additional consideration for being a Christian at the time of his signing... but you can't convince me his beliefs have anything to do with why he's still starting.

Do people realize that Mark B has completed 64.1% of his passes and has a 90.4 QB rating?

Those numbers are 5th and 11th in the league respectively. He's also got 7 TD's and 3 INT's.

He's not doing a bad job, but Joe Gibbs is right... the QB position is high profile and when the team fails people look at the QB to fix it.

Starting Campbell IMO would be giving up on the season... of course, maybe the season is already lost, or maybe it's worth it to get Campbell some reps, but Brunell is not the downfall of this team.

[FiveWidez]

My sense is that Gibbs knows enough to have a general separation of church and football. I think he truly believes that MB gives the team the best chance to win every week. If he's blind to MB's weaknesses, I think it has more to do with his preference for veteran QBs than it does his faith.

I near-death experience can change a man. And if Brunnel gives us the best chance to win then we need to face the fact that last year was a fluke and we are in need of another "rebuilding".

[Irn-Bru]

My sense is that Gibbs knows enough to have a general separation of church and football. I think he truly believes that MB gives the team the best chance to win every week. If he's blind to MB's weaknesses, I think it has more to do with his preference for veteran QBs than it does his faith.

I near-death experience can change a man. And if Brunnel gives us the best chance to win then we need to face the fact that last year was a fluke and we are in need of another "rebuilding".

Who's "we"? I'm certain that the Redskins wouldn't agree that last year was a fluke. . .

[FiveWidez]

You can get me to believe that Brunell was given additional consideration for being a Christian at the time of his signing... but you can't convince me his beliefs have anything to do with why he's still starting.

Do people realize that Mark B has completed 64.1% of his passes and has a 90.4 QB rating?

Those numbers are 5th and 11th in the league respectively. He's also got 7 TD's and 3 INT's.

He's not doing a bad job, but Joe Gibbs is right... the QB position is high profile and when the team fails people look at the QB to fix it.

Starting Campbell IMO would be giving up on the season... of course, maybe the season is already lost, or maybe it's worth it to get Campbell some reps, but Brunell is not the downfall of this team.

I don't care about the stats. He is not doing a great job if we have WR (good WR) running around open and he dumps it off to RBs on 3rd and long. 2 or 3 of his TDs have been on late game drives when the game was over. The completion percentage is inflated b/c of the 22 for 22 game.

[FiveWidez]

My sense is that Gibbs knows enough to have a general separation of church and football. I think he truly believes that MB gives the team the best chance to win every week. If he's blind to MB's weaknesses, I think it has more to do with his preference for veteran QBs than it does his faith.

I near-death experience can change a man. And if Brunnel gives us the best chance to win then we need to face the fact that last year was a fluke and we are in need of another "rebuilding".

Who's "we"? I'm certain that the Redskins wouldn't agree that last year was a fluke. . .

We is me and you and every other fan who bought into all this hype about the season. I really don't care what the Redskins believe about last year because they are proving on the field that it was a fluke.

[Chris Luva Luva]

So know its Jesus's fault we're losing? Talk about grasping for straws. Gibbs got Brunell because he liked him as a QB and as a person. You dont have to be a Christian to be a good person and if Brunell wasn't a Christian he still would have gotten the job.

Gibbs believes and likes Brunell a lot and has a track record of sticking with his QB's till the bitter end. He'll show JC that same confidence when he struggles as a rookie QB. Dont bother mentioning Patrick because he sucks and continues to suck in NY.

[FiveWidez]

:lol: So know its Jesus's fault we're losing? Talk about grasping for straws. Gibbs got Brunell because he liked him as a QB and as a person. You dont have to be a Christian to be a good person and if Brunell wasn't a Christian he still would have gotten the job.

Gibbs believes and likes Brunell a lot and has a track record of sticking with his QB's till the bitter end. He'll show JC that same confidence when he struggles as a rookie QB. Dont bother mentioning Patrick because he sucks and continues to suck in NY.

1) Gibbs has proven how bad a personnel guy he is
2) Gibbs also has a track record for winning but we see what has happened to that
3) Where did I say it was Jesus' fault? Please point that out to me. I am saying MAYBE Gibbs feels a bond with Brunell and it is clouding his judgment

[redskins12287]

His stats look decent, but I think our record is a better indication that this team needs to start playing differently, and one way to do that this season would be to let our young QB actually play. Dallas did it last night, and Romo provided a spark for that team.

[Irn-Bru]

1) Gibbs has proven how bad a personnel guy he is
2) Gibbs also has a track record for winning but we see what has happened to that
3) Where did I say it was Jesus' fault? Please point that out to me. I am saying MAYBE Gibbs feels a bond with Brunell and it is clouding his judgment

I think you want things both ways. Since Gibbs has been back, our personnel management has been great until a few of our moves this year (namely, AA and Carter, as well as a lack of bulking up the secondary). If you're going to point to a "proven" track record of bad personnel management, you'll need to reach much farther back. . .but you don't want anyone to do that for the track record of winning.

Gibbs showed as recently as last year that he can win (still not buying it as a 'fluke'). Considering how every phase of our team has undergone frustrations this year, I'm waiting to see if he can help assemble a cohesive unit by the end of the year before I pass any judgements on it. 2006 is a work in progress, and it alone won't swing my opinion one way or the other until I can get the whole picture.

[Chris Luva Luva]

1) Gibbs has proven how bad a personnel guy he is

I agree to an extent

2) Gibbs also has a track record for winning but we see what has happened to that

So who do you suggest take over?

3) Where did I say it was Jesus' fault? Please point that out to me. I am saying MAYBE Gibbs feels a bond with Brunell and it is clouding his judgment

I was joking when I said that but since you asked...

I am starting to believe it has so much to-do with their encounter in FL when Gibbs had his health issue and Brunell "saved" his life. This ties into them both being EXTREMELY religious.

What does him "saving" his life have to with religion? Do you think that Gibbs thinks that God sent Brunell to save his life on that? Im just trying to understand your reasoning behind it.

I am just posing the point that maybe Gibbs feels like he owes his "Christian Brother" for saving his life.

I dont think it has anything to do with that at all. Im not even sure his dedication to Brunell is deeper than sticking up for a Vet QB.

I don't know.

None of us do.

Maybe I am just searching for an answer.

Exactly.

Anyway, below are some interesting religious articles on Brunell.

I didnt read the articles but again, what does this have to do with football, redskins or the upcoming game?

[I remember the good]

Point blank Gibbs is too self absorbed, Gibbs shouldn't even be talking about the starter, it should be Al Saunders call. This shows just how crazy this team is.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Gibbs showed as recently as last year that he can win (still not buying it as a 'fluke').

Its my humble opinion that last years "fluke" was due to this....

Since Gibbs has been back, our personnel management has been great until a few of our moves this year (namely, AA and Carter, as well as a lack of bulking up the secondary).

I think it was the lack of acquisitions in the past years that catapulted us to the playoffs. The chemistry of this team got screwed this year. Hopefully they'll pick up on this.

[FiveWidez]

I don't think it should have anything to do with football. That's the point. Read the articles and you will see.

[Mursilis]

Gibbs believes and likes Brunell a lot and has a track record of sticking with his QB's till the bitter end. He'll show JC that same confidence when he struggles as a rookie QB. Dont bother mentioning Patrick because he sucks and continues to suck in NY.

Why not mention Ramsey? Is he an NFL starter? No, I'm not arguing that; at this point, I think the evidence is clear that he's not very good. However, coming off the '04 season, he was clearly better than Brunell that year, and he even finished with a win (vs. Vikings). Yet Gibbs yanked him the first chance he got. It doesn't matter that Brunell was OK last year; it matters that he gave Ramsey (a young QB) virtually zero slack, and yet Brunell (a 'supersmart' veteran QB) continues to get a ton of opportunities to lose us games. If you were Campbell (a young QB), how much confidence in your coach would you have? As long as Brunell is on the roster, Gibbs is going to look for the first chance to put him in there.

[FiveWidez]

1) Gibbs has proven how bad a personnel guy he is
2) Gibbs also has a track record for winning but we see what has happened to that
3) Where did I say it was Jesus' fault? Please point that out to me. I am saying MAYBE Gibbs feels a bond with Brunell and it is clouding his judgment

I think you want things both ways. Since Gibbs has been back, our personnel management has been great until a few of our moves this year (namely, AA and Carter, as well as a lack of bulking up the secondary). If you're going to point to a "proven" track record of bad personnel management, you'll need to reach much farther back. . .but you don't want anyone to do that for the track record of winning.

Gibbs showed as recently as last year that he can win (still not buying it as a 'fluke'). Considering how every phase of our team has undergone frustrations this year, I'm waiting to see if he can help assemble a cohesive unit by the end of the year before I pass any judgements on it. 2006 is a work in progress, and it alone won't swing my opinion one way or the other until I can get the whole picture.

19-22....wait for the end of the 2006 season to pass judgments? How many games do you need?

[redskingush]

I am starting to believe it has so much to-do with their encounter in FL when Gibbs had his health issue and Brunell "saved" his life. This ties into them both being EXTREMELY religious. Now I am a god-fearing man but I am not a part of the "Christian Right" or whatever they are called. I am just posing the point that maybe Gibbs feels like he owes his "Christian Brother" for saving his life. I don't know. Maybe I am just searching for an answer. Anyway, below are some interesting religious articles on Brunell.


http://www.acfnewsource.org/religion/fo ... hurch.html

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethi ... cover.html

I am thinking the same thing.

[FiveWidez]

1) Gibbs has proven how bad a personnel guy he is
2) Gibbs also has a track record for winning but we see what has happened to that
3) Where did I say it was Jesus' fault? Please point that out to me. I am saying MAYBE Gibbs feels a bond with Brunell and it is clouding his judgment

I think you want things both ways. Since Gibbs has been back, our personnel management has been great until a few of our moves this year (namely, AA and Carter, as well as a lack of bulking up the secondary). If you're going to point to a "proven" track record of bad personnel management, you'll need to reach much farther back. . .but you don't want anyone to do that for the track record of winning.

Gibbs showed as recently as last year that he can win (still not buying it as a 'fluke'). Considering how every phase of our team has undergone frustrations this year, I'm waiting to see if he can help assemble a cohesive unit by the end of the year before I pass any judgements on it. 2006 is a work in progress, and it alone won't swing my opinion one way or the other until I can get the whole picture.

As for personnel. Cmon man. Antonio Pierce? Smoot? Forget the players we gave money to that suck this year. What about the players we let go. Monumental mistakes.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Why not mention Ramsey?

He had a chance and blew it. Even though it was a short one.

Is he an NFL starter?

Exactly, he went somewhere else and he's on the bench again.

No, I'm not arguing that; at this point, I think the evidence is clear that he's not very good.

Exaclty.

Yet Gibbs yanked him the first chance he got.

Pat yanked himself by having a mediocre training camp. A horrible preseason. And looking bad in the opener.

It doesn't matter that Brunell was OK last year;

Brunell did great last year considering he only had one viable WR. I stuck up for MB05 and I will continue to do so.

If you were Campbell (a young QB), how much confidence in your coach would you have?

You're reaching. How about you ask him and we'll find out. But considering Gibbs drafted him specifically, Id assume he has faith in his coach.

As long as Brunell is on the roster, Gibbs is going to look for the first chance to put him in there.

Once Brunell is done, he's done imo but neither of us know the future.

[FiveWidez]

The fact that you guys have give MB nicknames like MBO4 and MB05 proves his inconsistency has gone on long enough.

[DCGloryYears828791]

:lol: So know its Jesus's fault we're losing? Talk about grasping for straws. Gibbs got Brunell because he liked him as a QB and as a person. You dont have to be a Christian to be a good person and if Brunell wasn't a Christian he still would have gotten the job.

Gibbs believes and likes Brunell a lot and has a track record of sticking with his QB's till the bitter end. He'll show JC that same confidence when he struggles as a rookie QB. Dont bother mentioning Patrick because he sucks and continues to suck in NY.

Amen. No pun intended.

[Mursilis]

I think you want things both ways. Since Gibbs has been back, our personnel management has been great until a few of our moves this year (namely, AA and Carter, as well as a lack of bulking up the secondary).

I think you missed a few other examples. That whole Duckett affair has yet to play out, but it's not looking so smart so far. Not to mention Campbell - is he good? Bad? Who knows? Since we're not playing him, and he amounts to three picks, those picks are a waste until he actually does something on the field. Sure, he may be great in the future, but he could be a huge bust, and the cost would then be steep. Either way, since he's not been allowed to do anything so far, he might as well be a bust. Finally, there's the players we've allowed to leave - while I'm not sure about Smoot, it appears at least the losses of Pierce and Clark weren't so smart. It'll be interesting to see if we can keep some of our other stars, if we develop this reputation of caring more about other team's players than our own.

[Chris Luva Luva]

19-22....wait for the end of the 2006 season to pass judgments? How many games do you need?

So what, look how long Cowher has been in Pitt. Look how long it took him to win a championship. Give it some time and hopefully our front office will learn to give it some time also in our selection process of players.

Again none of you people have a viable candidate to replace Gibbs?
What if the new coach whats to get rid of Williams and Saunders?
What if they dont like CP and ey because they dont fit their system?

So its going to take another 3-4 years for them to get their system in place and they still might not succeed.

You guys ask for stuff and dont even know what you're asking for.

[Chris Luva Luva]

The fact that you guys have give MB nicknames like MBO4 and MB05 proves his inconsistency has gone on long enough.

The fact that you fail to reply to the many points people have posted in rebuttle to your beliefs shows inconsistency in your ability to prove your point.