ESPN: Whose #1, Top Monday Night Football Moments

MarcusBeNimble · Post by **MarcusBeNimble** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:10 pm

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnat ... nt_id=2350

the link for voting is above, but i was disgusted to see that last season's "Monday Night Miracle" Week 2 against Dallas, was not on the list...

you gotta be kidding me.

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:31 pm

Why would Howard Cossell announcing John Lennon's death be on the list for "Best" Monday Night Football moment?

Cowboys beating us by 1 in our house gets nominated. Us beating them in Dallas by 1 does not.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:54 pm

Disgusting. Not 1 positive Redskin play. How is a player suffering a career ending injury a "great moment"? My favotite was Ken Houston stoping Walt Garrison on 4th & goal from the 1 to preserve a win.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:59 pm

MarcusBeNimble wrote:http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/ballot?event_id=2350

the link for voting is above, but i was disgusted to see that last season's "Monday Night Miracle" Week 2 against Dallas, was not on the list...

you gotta be kidding me.

Well, if the poll was for this past season then yeah, that would be dumb.

But the poll for best all time MNF moment, and while Santana torching Dallass was the best for a Skins fan, it didn't really have that much significance.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:23 am

I think it'd get mentioned under great MNF comebacks. It'd rank high on that list imo.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:39 am

Well, they DID miss the best MNF moment...

Rookie Darrel Green running down Tony Dorsett from behind, and that weasel Cosell announcing "that little monkey can run!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAzlB4zWKVo

Remember it like it was yesterday.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:52 am

He called D. Green a monkey? I bet there was a major s* storm after that! :lol:

I know his superiors about keeled over when they heard it.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:00 am

He called D. Green a monkey? I bet there was a major s* storm after that! Laughing I know his superiors about keeled over when they heard it.

Apparently, Cosell was untouchable at ABC. I was sure that would happen as well, but, unlike Jimmy the Greek (who was skewered, and cooked live over an open fire), we never heard a word about a reprimand, nor an appology to Green.

RigorMortis · Post by **RigorMortis** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:32 am

Cosell drew criticism during one Monday Night Football telecast in September 1983, for calling a wide receiver for the Washington Redskins, Alvin Garrett, a "little monkey." While some saw the term as having a racial connotation, many who knew Cosell were quick to point out that he used this term routinely in an approving way to describe quicker, smaller players of all ethnicities. Among the evidence to support this claim is video footage of a 1972 preseason game, between the New York Giants and the Kansas City Chiefs, that features Cosell referring to Mike Adamle, a 5-foot-9-inch, 197-pound Caucasian, as a "little monkey."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Cosell

He meant nothing by it.

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:34 am

Countertrey wrote:Well, they DID miss the best MNF moment...

Rookie Darrel Green running down Tony Dorsett from behind, and that weasel Cosell announcing "that little monkey can run!"

Remember it like it was yesterday.

Check your memory - he actually called Alvin Garrett a "little monkey".

"In 1983, during a Monday Night Football matchup between the Washington Redskins and Dallas Cowboys, he referred to Redskins wide receiver Alvin Garrett as a "little monkey." Following two months of intense public pressure, he resigned from the MNF broadcast team."

And DG catching Dorsett was nothing more than amazing. Great play.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:42 am

That sucks that he had to resign but you have to be more careful of what you say in public.

BernieSki · Post by **BernieSki** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:53 am

Howard was referring to the fact that Alvin Garrett had long arms.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:04 am

He didn't mean anything racist by it. If Alvin had been white he would have made the same comment. It was more in reference to his size than anything else. Alvin was one of the smurfs.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:12 am

But... I remember it... like yesterday... or was that the day before yesterday...

Hey, did you see that video of Darrell Green running down Tony Dorsett from behind? Or was that Dwayne Thomas? Calvin Hill? Moose Johnson... no, not him... he was kind of slow... Oh, he ran somebody down from behind... or was if from the side... Yes, I remember it like it was yesterday.

:oops:

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:30 am

At least the Theismann's leg game was a Redskins' victory.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:31 am

At least the Theismann's leg game was a Redskins' victory

Man, that was ugly. LT immediately jumped up, and started screaming and waving for the trainers... you knew it had to be bad, because he was completely bent out of shape.

Then they replayed it... close... ugh...

I remember it like it was yesterday.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:45 am

Countertrey wrote:
At least the Theismann's leg game was a Redskins' victory

Man, that was ugly. LT immediately jumped up, and started screaming and waving for the trainers... you knew it had to be bad, because he was completely bent out of shape.

Then they replayed it... close... ugh...

I remember it like it was yesterday.

Like you remembered this:

Countertrey wrote:Well, they DID miss the best MNF moment...

Rookie Darrel Green running down Tony Dorsett from behind, and that weasel Cosell announcing "that little monkey can run!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAzlB4zWKVo

Remember it like it was yesterday.

And that game is in there as "Dallas rallies to win opener at RFK Stadium (Sept. 5, 1983)." It has the second to worst rating.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:54 am

Humor seems to be in short supply here. My last post was a deliberate attempt to poke fun at myself. My post in between should have been the clue.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:06 pm

Countertrey wrote:Humor seems to be in short supply here. My last post was a deliberate attempt to poke fun at myself. My post in between should have been the clue.

What do you expect from these young whippersnappers? :roll:

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:28 pm

Countertrey wrote:Humor seems to be in short supply here. My last post was a deliberate attempt to poke fun at myself. My post in between should have been the clue.

Sorry, I posted before I read that one. :oops:

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:43 pm

air_hog wrote:But the poll for best all time MNF moment, and while Santana torching Dallass was the best for a Skins fan, it didn't really have that much significance.

I think I disagree. Remember to put those two catches in the context of the Redskins-Cowboys rivalry...and how the Cowboys have been handing it to the Redskins for years and years and years.

Those two catches, in one night, brought back that rivalry.

Significant? I certainly think so. I think any NFL fan worth his salt would also think so.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:58 pm

Also consider the additional context of the game: Gibbs vs. Parcells; in Dallas, a place where the Skins had dropped 9 in a row and, the sweetest part of all, the Cowboys HOF induction for Aikman, Irving and Smith. Definitely an all-time moment

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:32 pm

Fios wrote:Also consider the additional context of the game: Gibbs vs. Parcells; in Dallas, a place where the Skins had dropped 9 in a row and, the sweetest part of all, the Cowboys HOF induction for Aikman, Irving and Smith. Definitely an all-time moment

Not to mention the fact that those two TD's were the first TDs the 'skins had scored that season (the Chicago game was won on FGs). The 'skins had gone 7 1/2 quarters without a single TD, and were (if I'm remembering correctly) the last team in the entire league to score an opening TD in the '05 season. Joe Bugel himself called it "50+ minutes of bad football" up until BOOM - two scores in ~5 minutes, and the 'skins went home the victors. Prior to that, it looked like the '04 season all over again - great defense, no offense.
One doesn't have to be a 'skins fan to remember it as a great game for a lot of reasons.

MarcusBeNimble · Post by **MarcusBeNimble** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:14 pm

Mursilis wrote:
Fios wrote:Also consider the additional context of the game: Gibbs vs. Parcells; in Dallas, a place where the Skins had dropped 9 in a row and, the sweetest part of all, the Cowboys HOF induction for Aikman, Irving and Smith. Definitely an all-time moment

Not to mention the fact that those two TD's were the first TDs the 'skins had scored that season (the Chicago game was won on FGs). The 'skins had gone 7 1/2 quarters without a single TD, and were (if I'm remembering correctly) the last team in the entire league to score an opening TD in the '05 season. Joe Bugel himself called it "50+ minutes of bad football" up until BOOM - two scores in ~5 minutes, and the 'skins went home the victors. Prior to that, it looked like the '04 season all over again - great defense, no offense.
One doesn't have to be a 'skins fan to remember it as a great game for a lot of reasons.

FURTHERMORe, as mur pointed out, the redskins offense up to that point in joe gibbs' tenure had'nt done "DIDDLY POO", as former Colts Coach Jim Mora would have put it. Until that last 3 minutes, it had to be one of the most uneventful games I'd seen in recent years. Think about it, how many people the next morning, picked up the paper and jaws dropped in shock that the skins actually won?

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:06 pm

Justice Hog wrote:
air_hog wrote:But the poll for best all time MNF moment, and while Santana torching Dallass was the best for a Skins fan, it didn't really have that much significance.

I think I disagree. Remember to put those two catches in the context of the Redskins-Cowboys rivalry...and how the Cowboys have been handing it to the Redskins for years and years and years.

Those two catches, in one night, brought back that rivalry.

Significant? I certainly think so. I think any NFL fan worth his salt would also think so.

You would think, but all my friends said it was a stupid lucky game that the Skins won because Roy Williams is a moron.

I mean, everytime I bring it up, they just blame the game on Roy Williams stupidity, which I can't really argue.

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