Spurrier's Final Confession

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Fo_Block wrote: as bill parcells likes to say, "you are what your record says you are"


Well being that the reg season hasn't started, I guess everyone is the same. Fo block thanks for pointing out that right now, the Redskins are as good as any team in the league. I appreciate that.
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JPFair wrote:
homerism at its finest.

what exactly are you referring to the explosive joe gibbs offense that ranked what, 30th in the league?

as bill parcells likes to say, "you are what your record says you are


Well, when Bill Parcells can say he's won three Super Bowls with three different QB's, then maybe we could give more weight (no pun intended) to what he says. But, until then, Joe Gibbs runs circles around Parcells and his record.

On a side note, I'd be willing to put a wager that this will be Parcells last year as coach of the Cowboys. When he realizes he can't win a championship with the doughboys, he'll quit again, just like he's done so many times before and just like Spurrier did. It's a character trait that a lot of losing coaches have, they like to quit!!


joe gibbs record in the salary cap era: 6-10
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JPFair wrote:What I'm saying is that The Redskins of last year, at 6-10 and the enthusiasm with which the team played during EVERY game, was a substantial amount of progress from the team the previous year. The Redskins of 2003 were, as you say, without character, fight, or even motivation. Joe Gibbs quickly restored that, though not translating to wins just yet. But, time will prove that what Joe Gibbs is doing right now will reap substantial dividends for this franchise.

I can fully understand your lack of belief in it, as you've had nothing of any substance to cheer for in the last 30 years, but you'll see. And, before you go suggesting that Joe Gibbs "sucks", you should take into consideration what he's done in the past, present and what he will do in the future. He deserves the respect that he gets throughout the league and throughout the country.

There are very few people, yourself being the exception, that would say last years Redskins team was not an improvement on the previous years Redskins team in EVERY facet of the game, be it coaching, playing, or fan support.


first - you need to re-read the thread. my point was that spurrier should not solely shoulder the blame. the redskins who have one of the highest team salary's year after year have underachieved since snyder took over. the FO stinks and the high paid players underachieve. this was not a spurrier vs. gibbs debate.

but since you mention it, the team was not better in EVERY facet of the game - the offense last season was terrible. i don't have the stats so i may be wrong but my guess is that spurrier's offense was no worse than gibbs.
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joe gibbs record in the salary cap era: 6-10


Boy, you're really grasping at straws now! In reality, Joe Gibbs record as the Head Coach of an NFL team is three Super Bowl victories, with four Super Bowl appearances. It is what it is, no matter how you try and twist it. To slice it up between salary cap era and non salaray cap era is an indication of your lack of respect for the game of football. How sad!!

my point was that spurrier should not solely shoulder the blame. the redskins who have one of the highest team salary's year after year have underachieved since snyder took over.


Give Joe Gibbs more than a season to change your opinion. You've given Steve Spurrier two years to form your opinion that he wasn't ALL to blame, the least you can do is give a Hall of Fame coach equal time to form your opinion. Re-visit this thread after the season and see if you still think that Gibbs' record in the salary cap era, or his offense "sucks" as you put it.

but since you mention it, the team was not better in EVERY facet of the game - the offense last season was terrible. i don't have the stats so i may be wrong but my guess is that spurrier's offense was no worse than gibbs.


ahhh, another one of those guys who has an I in their team. An offense is not what wins the games, a TEAM wins the game. That being said, last years Redskins were a better team than the year before. NO ONE, not even you, could argue to the contrary. If you for one minute think that the Redskins, who went 6-10 last year, were not a significant improvement from the year before, then you're even more out of touch with the NFL than I give you credit for.

Now, you don't have to tell me to read the thread, because I can assure you I did read it, even though logic should have told me not to. Contrary to your assertion, Steve Spurrier IS the reason for the Redskins fielding such poor teams in 2002 and 2003. He had two drafts, brought in his type of player, and after two years the team was still in decline. Even though the players are the ones who play the game, the coaching staff are responsible for how they play it. I disagree wity you, respectfully, that Steve Spurrier shouldn't shoulder all of the blame. Steve Spurrier, in my opinion, should shoulder ALL of the blame for the Redskins misfortunes for the two years he was HC. I mean, come one, who can argue that his system and style of coaching wasn't an abysmal failure? The responsiblity for how a team does in the Won/Loss category lies with the head coach. For the players to win, they have to buy into the Head Coaches philosophy, and the Redskins didn't buy into it. They can't be faulted for not buying into a flawed and inept system. Who in their right mind would buy into such a pathetic system? Just as Joe Gibbs will shoulder the blame for the Redskins record this year, so too has Steve Spurrier done for his time in D.C.

I shouldn't knock the loser too bad, cuz without his losing, cowardice type of personality, he wouldn't have quit and allowed a real coach to come back and turn this team around.

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Spurrier was possibly the worst idea as a coaching signging ever. Snyder is a complete tool. You guys should be happy he has such a competitive spirit, but you guys should pray he hires a GM. Jason Campbell, Coles for Moss...come on. make it a rivaliry again please
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:28 pm

Spurrier was possibly the worst idea as a coaching signging ever. Snyder is a complete tool. You guys should be happy he has such a competitive spirit, but you guys should pray he hires a GM. Jason Campbell, Coles for Moss...come on. make it a rivaliry again please


...and the poster leaves us just as the Steeler's game begins? Misses the OL mash the Steelers' defense?

Is this like a "hit and run"?
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Billy Bullocks wrote:Spurrier was possibly the worst idea as a coaching signging ever. Snyder is a complete tool. You guys should be happy he has such a competitive spirit, but you guys should pray he hires a GM. Jason Campbell, Coles for Moss...come on. make it a rivaliry again please
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And we honestly could or should give a rat's rearend about what a 'puke fan thinks of our trades and our draft?
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DESkins your post was edited .. you can't letters with symbols to get around the profanity rules. That only goes in the smack forum
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okay. sorry about that one. nice edit, though.
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