CAP FIGURES AS OF FEB 12,2004

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:39 am

Tuesday, February 18, 2003

By John Clayton
ESPN.com

Below is the amount of money each team is under or over the $78.7 million salary cap for 2004 as of Feb. 12.

TEAM-BY-TEAM SALARY CAP UPDATE
Team Cap status
Arizona Cardinals $16.9 million under
Atlanta Falcons $3.9 million under
Baltimore Ravens $23.03 million under
Buffalo Bills $6.8 million under
Carolina Panthers $12.5 million under
Chicago Bears $11.3 million under
Cincinnati Bengals $8.15 million under
Cleveland Browns $3.2 million under
Dallas Cowboys $15.5 million under
Denver Broncos $5.7 million over
Detroit Lions $12.9 million under
Green Bay Packers $1.1 million under
Houston Texans $10.4 million under
Indianapolis Colts $4.2 million under
Jacksonville Jaguars $9.3 million under
Kansas City Chiefs $3.8 million under
Miami Dolphins $10.5 million over
Minnesota Vikings $19.1 million under
New England Patriots $4.6 million over
New Orleans Saints $20.6 million under
New York Giants $3.2 million under
New York Jets $1.28 million under
Oakland Raiders $511,000 under
Philadelphia Eagles $22.6 million under
Pittsburgh Steelers $4.7 million over
St. Louis Rams $14 million under
San Diego Chargers $4.4 million under
San Francisco 49ers $205,000 under
Seattle Seahawks $10.5 million under
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $2.8 million over
Tennessee Titans $17.5 million over
Washington Redskins $6.4 million under

John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.

THE TITANS ARE SCREWED. THERE FRONT OFFICE WILL BE WORKING DOUBLE OVERTIME

dallasisdead2004 · Post by **dallasisdead2004** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:42 am

thanks for the info.

What's up with Tennessee and Miami?!

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:57 am

it doesn,t leave alot of room ,but then again we will have to wait and see what happens as things develop during the offseason. in other words stay tuned. thanks gambit.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:00 pm

Wow, do the Ravens know how to run an organization or what? We better hope that arrogant prick Billick doesn't get his hands on a qaurterback and a set of recievers.

The Patriots have a lot of work to do with all those early draft picks and the Ty Law situation...

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:06 pm

Steve Spurrier III wrote:Wow, do the Ravens know how to run an organization or what? We better hope that arrogant prick Billick doesn't get his hands on a qaurterback and a set of recievers.

The Patriots have a lot of work to do with all those early draft picks and the Ty Law situation...

Yeah the Pats heve 2 pics in round 1, 2 picks in round 2 and 2 picks in round 4

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:13 pm

This must include player incentive #s from 2003 because the Redskins haven't made any roster moves since ESPN's last report which had the Redskns at $8.6 mil.

See, now you know why Champ hasn't been franchised yet... we don't have the cap space.

It'll take 6.8 mil just to throw the tag on him. So we have to cut one or two guys just to use the tag.

And don't forget... Bruce Smith is potentially 6.5 million more to that pile.

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:18 pm

The Ravens' number is very misleading. They ony have 34 players under contract. Signing 17 others just to get to the "rule of 51" will eat up a substantial portion of that.

These numbers, while accurate, do not reflect the true standing of teams with regard to the cap. One must take into account the number of players currently under contract, RFAs, and exclusive rights.

Then look starters who are UFAs and a team's desire or need to re-sign them. For example, if Baltimore re-signed McCallister, the numbers would change.

Wysocki · Post by **Wysocki** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:46 pm

Thanks Curveball - it's nice to know the 'rest of the story'. And even though the hated (IMO) Ravens have a lot more players to sign I give credit to the job Ozzie Newsome does (I think he's what you call a GM)...

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:46 pm

Excellent point curveball.

Like all off-season news... IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL.

But hey, speculation is what being a fan is all about.

Incidentally... according to my #s, the Redskins have 55 players included in that number.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:54 pm

Players under contract are as follows, note that there are names that are VERY unlikely to crack the squad...

Jesse Armstead
LaVar Arrington
Bryan Barker
Rashad Bauman
Ladell Betts
Matt Bowen
Trung Canidate
Rock Cartwright
Byron Chamberlain
Laveranues Coles
Lional Dalton
Derrick Dockery
Pita Elisara
Dave Fiore
Rod Gardner
Dwain Goynes
Jermaine Haley
John Hall
Gibran Hamdan
Tim Hasselbeck
Taylor Jacobs
Jon Jansen
Ade Jimoh
Kenyatta Jones
Andre Lott
Sultan McCollough
Larry Moore
Chad Morton
Brandon Noble
Patrick Ramsey
Robert Royal
Cliff Russel
Chris Samuels
Mike Sellers
John Simon
Clifton Smith
Bruce Smith
Fred Smoot
Randy Thomas
Jeremiah Trotter
Regan Upshaw
Kevin Ware
Brandon Winey
Renaldo Wynn

Chris Clemons
Nic Clemons
Scott Cloman
Sean Dillard
Cedric Killings
Reggie McGrew
Ben Nowland
Armegis Spearman
Kevin Stemke
Ron Warner
Greg White

skinnns · Post by **skinnns** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:00 pm

one thing not really mentioned, is that with the leaving of Bruce and couple other cuts that wouldn't be terribly detrimental(Dalton I believe) the Skins can get to around 15-16 million under.

Plues if they can renagotiate a contract or two and sign Champ long term, that leaves more space to sign guys.

They aren't really bad off at all.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:04 pm

skinnns wrote:one thing not really mentioned, is that with the leaving of Bruce and couple other cuts that wouldn't be terribly detrimental(Dalton I believe) the Skins can get to around 15-16 million under.

Plues if they can renagotiate a contract or two and sign Champ long term, that leaves more space to sign guys.

They aren't really bad off at all.

Skinnns, welcome... why not register and read a few threads, all of this has been mentioned.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:30 pm

Ozzie is the damn man!!! I could careless if he's a raven or not, he knows what he's doing and does it well. SUPERB CHEAP TALENT!!!! How many players have we gotten with all of those qualities?

Superb EXPENSIVE TALENT
Poor Expensive talent

We need a great front office like that.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:04 pm

I totally agree. Even though I hate Billick, he does a hell of a job. Somehow, they are always competing for a playoff spot, even when they have no business being there. I've always thought in terms of ownership, front office decisions, coaching, and play on the field, they have been the "anti-Redskins" these last five years or so. Hopefully that will change...

joebagadonuts · Post by **joebagadonuts** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:51 pm

The thing that surprised me was the Steelers cap number. How can you be $5 mil over and be that horrible?

joebag

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:53 pm

I think we can actually get better than that 15-16 mil, which will leave us room to move, especially if Gibbs trades down to a top ten pick instead of a top 5 - the money seems to drop by quite a substantial amount, plus we would get an extra pick or two, maybe a third rounder to make up for trading it to Jax for Brunell...

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:29 pm

What if Minnesota was to get Terrell Owens. They have the Cap.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:43 pm

What if Minnesota was to get Terrell Owens. They have the Cap.

they've got other needs, but, DUDE COULD YOU IMAGINE :shock:

that would be unreal, although, i'm not sure both of those ego's would be able to work together.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:47 pm

hailskins666 wrote:
What if Minnesota was to get Terrell Owens. They have the Cap.
they've got other needs, but, DUDE COULD YOU IMAGINE that would be unreal, although, i'm not sure both of those ego's would be able to work together.

Yeah..They got a TE that I want. That setup though would change the game.

redskins56 · Post by **redskins56** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:48 pm

Who cares about the Vikings?

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:55 pm

Ok guys, so where's the fat and where's the beef on the Redskins? Projected cuts please - just for fun!

Armstead, Barker (please!), Dalton, Gardner, Bailey - jump in anytime. :lol:

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:50 pm

Speek bro - Bailey isn't a cut... he is done with his contract - the only way we save money is by not signing him to that huge contract we offered him

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:52 pm

redskins56 wrote:Who cares about the Vikings?

What if we the Redskins had TO? You happy now baby?????????????

Champ&Boss · Post by **Champ&Boss** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:20 am

Seriously, projected cuts. I'm interested in how you can get more cap space.

Someone mentioned Trung Candidate and Lionel Dalton, and I've read a restructuring for Samuels.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:31 am

Bruce Smith... 6.5 million minimum... what more do you need C&B?

There are other players... Dalton (1.4M), Canidate (1M), Larry Moore (1.3M), Byron Chamberlain (750K), Bryan Barker (1M)... Jesse Armstead (1M).