Taylor = Thug

biznitchn · Post by **biznitchn** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:30 pm

I know we wont release him, but wont he have to pay money back if he doesnt play next season. (which is a distinct possability), and would that be before the season starts if we know in advance he wont be playing.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:35 pm

Unless there's a 'bad behavior' clause in his contract for an out, they're still going to owe him the signing bonus money. All they would save on the cap by cutting him are his annual salaries.

FiveWidez · Post by **FiveWidez** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:17 pm

Redskins4Life wrote:this is a rumor and nothing else.

Sorry to say, I was right.

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:19 pm

BossHog wrote:Unless there's a 'bad behavior' clause in his contract for an out, they're still going to owe him the signing bonus money. All they would save on the cap by cutting him are his annual salaries.

I've never heard of a modern NFL contract not having an "out". Some have the now infamous "dangerous behaviors" clause and some don't, but they all seem to have a clause pertaining to off-field criminal activity.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:31 pm

curveball wrote:
BossHog wrote:Unless there's a 'bad behavior' clause in his contract for an out, they're still going to owe him the signing bonus money. All they would save on the cap by cutting him are his annual salaries.

I've never heard of a modern NFL contract not having an "out". Some have the now infamous "dangerous behaviors" clause and some don't, but they all seem to have a clause pertaining to off-field criminal activity.

That would be delightful irony if we do have an out. Here we have Mr. Selfish being an idiot because he wants more money. He doesn't show up to camp to show us who's the man, he gets into trouble while "taking a break" and then has to give us money back. I hope this happens, badly.

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:16 pm

Well i think most of us are pretty mad at the situation. But this all can be a learning experience for this 22 year old millionair. I hope he laerns that none of the trouble he will go through would have happened if he answered Joe Gibbs's calls and came to the workouts. Now no wonder what he will be charged with and who knows what the league will do. None the less may this be a lesson for young guys like him.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:20 pm

Sean Taylor is really starting to piss me off!!!

Its funny how I was bragging aout this guy now he making the team look like the laughing stock of the league. He is very dumb and doesnt listen.

I like the guy and all, but I dont know how much longer this can be tolerated.

Sean Taylor is definitely a "Prima Donna."

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:36 pm

redskincity wrote:Sean Taylor is really starting to piss me off!!!

Wait until he really gets going! He is just warming up. :lol:

Redskin_fan · Post by **Redskin_fan** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:39 pm

Dan Daly wrote this last year and I don't think anything has changed: Redskins' troubles are Taylor-made http://www.washtimes.com/sports/2004080 ... -1058r.htm

Sean Taylor is an idiot. And if someone tells me that he's only 22 than I say he's a 22 year old idiot. I for one hope that he never wears a Redskin uniform again. He doesn't respect being a Redskin and I don't think we should let his talent shadow his lack of respect for his team, teammates, fans or the game.

As a fellow human being I hope he can man-up and work his way through this problem. I don't see professional football as the medium for him to become a more mature person. I wish him the best, but not as a member of Redskins.

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:48 pm

Redskin_fan wrote:Dan Daly wrote this last year and I don't think anything has changed: Redskins' troubles are Taylor-made http://www.washtimes.com/sports/2004080 ... -1058r.htm

Sean Taylor is an idiot. And if someone tells me that he's only 22 than I say he's a 22 year old idiot. I for one hope that he never wears a Redskin uniform again. He doesn't respect being a Redskin and I don't think we should let his talent shadow his lack of respect for his team, teammates, fans or the game.

As a fellow human being I hope he can man-up and work his way through this problem. I don't see professional football as the medium for him to become a more mature person. I wish him the best, but not as a member of Redskins.

your mistaken....
hes a 22 rich year old idiot

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:02 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:
redskincity wrote:Sean Taylor is really starting to piss me off!!!

Wait until he really gets going! He is just warming up.

Yeah and thats what I am afraid of.

He should be ashamed of himself.

SO. CAL. SKIN DUDE · Post by **SO. CAL. SKIN DUDE** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:03 pm

You have been given the rest of the summer off by GibbS, et.al.

So this means no mini-camp for you. This starts placing you in the same position as that other "stud" from the "U"... Winslow.

Hope your happy BONE HEAD! :explode:

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:14 pm

It's Sean, not the Shaun like Shaun Alexander.

And I'm sure your frustrated, but you could have just voiced your opinion in any of the other Sean Taylor Hatin threads.
And just for the record, sure he's making me mad right now but next season when he's layin out Keyshawn, I'll be loving him.

Unless he's in jail ](*,)

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:16 pm

moved

SkinsHead56 · Post by **SkinsHead56** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:27 pm

I remembered reading this about a month ago. Eagles owner Jeff Lurie regarding T.O.s holdout.

Owens fired longtime agent David Joseph in April, hired Drew Rosenhaus and started asking for a renegotiation just one year into a seven-year deal worth almost $49 million.

Lurie criticized Owens' new agent for giving him "self-destructive advice."

"Every player is both fragile and talented," said Lurie, who was traveling Wednesday with NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue to a conference of chief executive officers in Beijing.

"Unfortunately, we're seeing around the league certain agents who take advantage of the fragility of the players, and are less worried about their continued success and stability than acting self destructively. It's too bad," he said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2057714

Sean your agent is a sleaze ball, and now you have fallen into a trap that will cost you millions at least, if not your freedom.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:37 am

I have not given up on Sean Taylor and the magic that Joe Gibbs and Co. can bring to turn this guy around.

But I surely have given up on Sean Taylor as a significant contributor to our success this season. He deserves to be in the doghouse (and possibly the jailhouse if he is convicted).

If this guy does not improve, the ONLY good lesson that can be brought to bare is that NO PLAYER is above the team. You do not break Rule #1: Do not embarrass the Washington Redskins Organization as a whole.

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:16 pm

Yeah, I'm still hopeful that all of this stuff will be okay at the end. I hope ST will be on the field playing his heart out and apologizing every time he's in front of a camera. I know all these events make the picture grim but there might be a little speck of light at the end of the tunnel where everything will return to normal.

Yes he did offend the Washington Redskins by his actions. Yes he deserves to be punnished. Yes he did not contribute to the team this offseason. BUT hopefully something in ST's brain will ignite a desire to fix his false ways and return to become one of the best safties of the league.

I really love having ST back there. It's so exciting to see him run around the field. Though I am utterly sad to see his recent news, I hope the 22 year old realizes what is going on and starts his career all over again.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:21 pm

We, as fans, (and I agree with you hatsOFF) are in bad shape when our best hope for a player is that he apologizes for the potentially criminal action he was involved in.

WshSkins22 · Post by **WshSkins22** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:44 pm

So whats going to affect Sean Taylors play? If the charges are dropped, will Gibbs suspend Sean Taylor himself or will the NFl, or if he is foudn guilty will be serve suspension or jail time? Im not sure can someone clear that up for me and what the chances are of him playing next year

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:46 pm

I assume he'll be suspended from the league for a couple of weeks. 2-3?? That's if he's out of jail by the time the season rolls around.

SkinsHead56 · Post by **SkinsHead56** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:47 pm

Hey Wshskins22 is that avatar from Sean's Mug shot???

WshSkins22 · Post by **WshSkins22** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:02 pm

Lol nah its not from his mugshot, I love my avatar, even though Sean Taylor has a terrible attitude, his talent is unquestionable. I truly believe he is better than Roy Williams, the guy brings a passion to the game and hits hard as anything every down, just wish his head was on straight

ejay183 · Post by **ejay183** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:50 pm

we all do

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:58 pm

Yeah i really hope he turns that head 360 degrees and gets it right. i dont see wats plaguing is mind right now. but he better fix it

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:05 pm

I think Gibbs handling of this is genius. By excusing Sean from practice, it make Gibbs seem as if he is looking out for Sean's best intersts. And he is. But this also should get Sean's attention and compell respect for his coach (we would hope), especially in light of how Sean has handled the offseason to this point. This sends a powerfull message to the rest of the team that Joe has their back, while at the same time removing the distraction from the team during those practices. He also gains power over Sean in future contract negotiations. Finally, he lays the punishment of Sean off on the NFL. Brilliant!

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