We're on the clock! *official draft day thread*

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:00 pm

RedskinsRule56 wrote:I am hoping for Michael Clayton WR from Oklahoma at pick 25

I just hope they take a WR with 25 and not a QB. :shock:

Insano Hog · Post by **Insano Hog** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:01 pm

Questions:
1.What is the difference between Heath Miller and Chris Cool

ey?
2. Is it likely that we can work out a trade with Detroit for one of their 3 excellent WRs?

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:01 pm

NO is taking Johnson.

Wow Brown?????

That's a stunner.

fredp45 · Post by **fredp45** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:02 pm

I'm hoping we pick either WR - Clayton or White at 25. Then trade Moss for a 2nd rounder and Gardner for a late 3rd rounder...

With the 2nd round pick -- Alex Smith - TE
With the 3rd round pick -- DE prospect
With the 4th round pick -- MLB or big back for short yardage.

Everybody okay with that?

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:03 pm

Houston trades to New Orleans. (Saints give up a #3 in 2006 to move up three slots)

Saints take Jamaal Brown (Oklahoma)

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:03 pm

I highly doubt we have any plans to trade Moss.

wormer · Post by **wormer** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:03 pm

I think WR or QB @ 25...or trade down...

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:04 pm

Then trade Moss for a 2nd rounder and Gardner for a late 3rd rounder...

We are NOT going to trade Moss and I seriously doubt that we're going to get a third rounder for 50/50.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:05 pm

SkinzCanes wrote:Would anyone in their right mind trade next year's #1 (likely a top 20 pick), a 3rd rounder, and a 4th rounder straight up for White, or even Miller, because that is essentially what we've done.

The answer to this question is the ONLY reason why I am still around following the draft. I am wishing for the best but...

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:05 pm

fredp45 wrote:I'm hoping we pick either WR - Clayton or White at 25.

Everybody okay with that?

No. Tremendous lack of return. #1 for Coles / Coles for Moss / Moss for a #2? Math ain't workin' for me in that one.

wormer · Post by **wormer** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:06 pm

SkinzCanes wrote:If we pick a player like Roddy White at #25 that will only highlight how desperately we need a true GM. Would anyone in their right mind trade next year's #1 (likely a top 20 pick), a 3rd rounder, and a 4th rounder straight up for White, or even Miller, because that is essentially what we've done. No wonder we've only played 2 playoff games in 12 years.

My vote for best post of the day! Nail on the head SkinzCanes...nail on the head...

fredp45 · Post by **fredp45** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:08 pm

skinzcanes -- if we get Clayton or White, why not trade Moss? We could rid ourselves of one Hurricane egomanic who wants tons of money and isn't worth it...

We could use other stuff more than WR, at that point.

Gardner either brings a late 3rd or we keep him...maybe we trade him later when a teams needs a WR...I'd be surprised if the Chargers wouldn't want him. They have no WRs and Marty liked Rod coming out of college.

fredp45 · Post by **fredp45** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:10 pm

redskinsfreak -- the point is -- we should NEVER have signed coles for a 1st and we should have cut him, not traded him for moss, but 3 wrongs don't make a right.....trade moss NOW for a 2nd and get something that will help us and not cost tons of cash.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:14 pm

SkinzCanes wrote:If we pick a player like Roddy White at #25 that will only highlight how desperately we need a true GM. Would anyone in their right mind trade next year's #1 (likely a top 20 pick), a 3rd rounder, and a 4th rounder straight up for White, or even Miller, because that is essentially what we've done. No wonder we've only played 2 playoff games in 12 years.

Don't think we need a GM at all. Gibbs has done great in everything he's done since he got here except for Brunell.

Our pick won't likely be top 20 next year, it will likely have been 21-32. We probably traded out of next year because this draft is projected to be deeper for solid players, and we don't have that many holes now. By filling one of those holes this season instead of next we increase our chances of making the playoffs this year and going far in the playoffs the season after that.

Insano Hog · Post by **Insano Hog** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:14 pm

What DEs will be available at 25, because ours are below average.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:18 pm

Insano Hog wrote:What DEs will be available at 25, because ours are below average.

Possibly David Pollack.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:19 pm

Erasmus, Pollack, Spears, Cody, Roth...

Lots of DE's left :wink:

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:22 pm

The Redskins traded for this pick because they feel they need the addition of a number one pick this year more than they will need one next year. I don't see why it comes down to anything more than that.

There are still some great players left on the board... and lots of defensive players of note... LB Derrick Johnson, Odell Thurman, Barret Ruud, DL David Pollack, Marcus Spears, Dan Cody, erasmus james, Travis Johnson...

On offense there's White, Clayton, Miller, Reggie Brown, Matt Jones...

Any of these guys would be an improvement to this team and would likely start. The trade facillitated adding TWO STARTERS in 2005... and will likely accomplish just that.

Giving up the fourth was likely the only 'over payment' but perhaps they anticipate getting a compensatory pick for the loss of Smoot and Pierce.

My 2 cents

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:22 pm

Scottskins wrote:Erasmus, Pollack, Spears, Cody, Roth...

Lots of DE's left

That could change with just a couple of picks.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:24 pm

BossHog wrote:The Redskins traded for this pick because they feel they need the addition of a number one pick this year more than they will need one next year. I don't see why it comes down to anything more than that.

There are still some great players left on the board... and lots of defensive players of note... LB Derrick Johnson, Odell Thurman, Barret Ruud, DL David Pollack, Marcus Spears, Dan Cody, erasmus james, Travis Johnson...

On offense there's White, Clayton, Miller, Reggie Brown, Matt Jones...

Any of these guys would be an improvement to this team and would likely start. The trade facillitated adding TWO STARTERS in 2005... and will likely accomplish just that.

Giving up the fourth was likely the only 'over payment' but perhaps they anticipate getting a compensatory pick for the loss of Smoot and Pierce.

Great points, Boss.

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:25 pm

Erasmus, Pollack, Spears, Cody, Roth...

Lots of DE's left icon_wink.gif

Pollack and Cody project as linebackers in a 3-4 not every down de's. James is injury prone.

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:25 pm

General Failure wrote:
Scottskins wrote:Erasmus, Pollack, Spears, Cody, Roth...

Lots of DE's left

That could change with just a couple of picks.

GF chimes in. He waits for the draft to start, get 18 holes in, washes the car, then pops in to see what the holdup is in getting to a pick in the 30's.

Ahhhhh, the good old days.

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:31 pm

Don't think we need a GM at all. Gibbs has done great in everything he's done since he got here except for Brunell.

That was a pretty big mistake that cost us a valuable draft pick, lots of money, and playing time for our young qb who needed to be on the field. I would also consider trading one disgrunteld receiver for another, and in the prcess take a huge cap hit a pretty big mistake as well.

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:31 pm

curveball wrote:
General Failure wrote:
Scottskins wrote:Erasmus, Pollack, Spears, Cody, Roth...

Lots of DE's left

That could change with just a couple of picks.

GF chimes in. He waits for the draft to start, get 18 holes in, washes the car, then pops in to see what the holdup is in getting to a pick in the 30's.

Ahhhhh, the good old days.

I thought for sure Reid would have traded up by now to get a lineman.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:31 pm

There were a quite a few rumours about us trading Rod Gardner for a lower pick during the draft. Any chances better than 50/50 that we will NOT get any offer?

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