LANDOVER, Md. -- The game was over, the Bengals had just finished off a 17-10 win against Washington and T.J. Houshmandzadeh went to find Redskins rookie safety Sean Taylor in the end zone at FedEx Field. It wasn't going to be one of those pleasant post-game meetings that many players have, though. The Bengals wide receiver was bent on explaining some do's and don'ts about the NFL to Taylor.
Houshmandzadeh found Taylor, the two bumped chests and exchanged words. The two were split up before the confrontation came to blows but there was little doubt that whatever Taylor did, Houshmandzadeh didn't like it and didn't appreciate it.
Just exactly what that was stayed between the players. Taylor has stopped speaking to the media, and Houshmandzadeh wouldn't get into specifics.
"It ain't no big deal," said Houshmandzadeh. "Go to their locker room and ask him. See if he'll tell you. It's no big deal, though. He's a punk. It's just something he did. That's how he is, so be it."
The incident dimmed a performance in which Houshmandzadeh caught seven passes for 59 yards. It equaled a season-high in receptions for the fourth-year receiver out of Oregon State, who had caught just six passes in the past four games. While his yardage total wasn't massive, the yards he picked up were important ones. Four of his catches were good for first downs, including three that came on third-down plays.
"With Chad (Johnson) being our No. 1 option, you've got to get him the ball," said Houshmandzadeh. "You've got to make the most of your opportunities."
Houshmandzadeh has 30 catches for 381 yards this season, second to Johnson's 50 receptions and 713 yards. Johnson had six catches for 89 yards against the Redskins.
if opposing receivers go home happy about how taylor treated them, THAT'S when there's a problem. he's not out there to make friends-he's out there to break them!
I'm a jack of all trades, the master of three
Rockin' the tables, rockin' the mikes, rockin' the young lay-dees.
If he keeps hitting guys like that monster shot he put on Rudi Johnson, let him talk some stuff on the field.
RIP 21
"Nah, I trust the laws of nature to stay constant. I don't pray that the sun will rise tomorrow, and I don't need to pray that someone will beat the Cowboys in the playoffs." - Irn-Bru
I'm sure that Smoot and Springs are teaching him what it means to be a DB in this league. As long as I don't hear our guys complaining about his ON THE FIELD behavior I don't really care what other teams think.
chaddukes wrote:I'm sure that Smoot and Springs are teaching him what it means to be a DB in this league. As long as I don't hear our guys complaining about his ON THE FIELD behavior I don't really care what other teams think.
Chad
Oh so you saying its ok to deal with his off the field behavior. As long as he performs on the field.
chaddukes wrote:I'm sure that Smoot and Springs are teaching him what it means to be a DB in this league. As long as I don't hear our guys complaining about his ON THE FIELD behavior I don't really care what other teams think.
Chad
Oh so you saying its ok to deal with his off the field behavior. As long as he performs on the field.
Funny, I didn't hear him say that.
Are you a little -sniff- sensitive on this subject?
I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but....I'm saying that we know that he has off the field problems...and it looks like perhaps some serious ones. But put that aside and look specifically at the (alleged) incidient yesterday. As long as I don't hear Smoot, Springs, or Gregg Williams complaining about his on the field problems, then I say forget about what the other teams recievers say. Its his job to intimidate, harrass, and smack around the other teams receivers.
His off the field problems are another issue all together. He is young and is likely to make some stupid mistakes. He should not be shielded from the consequences of those mistakes. But thats not really the issue here from my point of view.
Chad
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I don't think that there's anything wrong with this. Even though Houshmanwhatever had a good game, Taylor clearly got into his head. Taylor had a great game and you can see the intensity he plays with. He is a killer out there and he plays with a lot of passion. If the conflict was really bad we would know about it, it's probably just some trash talking that went too far.
"We're not going to be the pushovers of the NFL, we're gonna push over some people!" - Clinton Portis
chaddukes wrote:I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but....I'm saying that we know that he has off the field problems...and it looks like perhaps some serious ones. But put that aside and look specifically at the (alleged) incidient yesterday. As long as I don't hear Smoot, Springs, or Gregg Williams complaining about his on the field problems, then I say forget about what the other teams recievers say. Its his job to intimidate, harrass, and smack around the other teams receivers.
His off the field problems are another issue all together. He is young and is likely to make some stupid mistakes. He should not be shielded from the consequences of those mistakes. But thats not really the issue here from my point of view.
Chad
Taylor has showed that he was highly overated. He is a shadow of Roy Williams. Also he is following in a long line of immature atheletes coming out of the Miami area.
chaddukes wrote:I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but....I'm saying that we know that he has off the field problems...and it looks like perhaps some serious ones. But put that aside and look specifically at the (alleged) incidient yesterday. As long as I don't hear Smoot, Springs, or Gregg Williams complaining about his on the field problems, then I say forget about what the other teams recievers say. Its his job to intimidate, harrass, and smack around the other teams receivers.
His off the field problems are another issue all together. He is young and is likely to make some stupid mistakes. He should not be shielded from the consequences of those mistakes. But thats not really the issue here from my point of view.
Chad
Taylor has showed that he was highly overated. He is a shadow of Roy Williams. Also he is following in a long line of immature atheletes coming out of the Miami area.
cowboy4life wrote:Taylor has showed that he was highly overated. He is a shadow of Roy Williams. Also he is following in a long line of immature atheletes coming out of the Miami area.
Do you have anything to back that post up?
If you don't, then that is just your biased opinion.
I'll admit for something that was "The most researched thing in the history of sports," as Joe Gibbs put the decision to go with Taylor over Winslow, his off the field behavior is surprising. But when you consider that he is twenty-one years old and a bit of an iconoclast, then its not really that strange. He reminds me alot of Lavar in his personality. If it means that he plays like Lavar then I'll take it.
As for the statement that he is only a shadow of Roy Williams....The guy has only played in EIGHT games and only started SIX. Perhaps its a little premature to make such a decision about his abilities.
[sarcasm]Gee, you know, you are right. What a mistake to draft Taylor instead of Winslow. I mean, the Skins defense has sucked, and Winslow has been such a big part of the Browns' offense.[/sarcasm]
Other teams can hate him, that probably means he is in their face during the game. As long as what he does on field is not against the rules, than he can make the opposing team as angry as he likes.
cowboy4life wrote:Taylor has showed that he was highly overated. He is a shadow of Roy Williams. Also he is following in a long line of immature atheletes coming out of the Miami area.
Yeah, like Michael Irvin! Try posting when you actually have some facts to back up your argument. Sean Taylor has played amazing! He may be the best player on our #1 ranked D only 9 games into his career! Have you been watching any games?!? You know, Roy Williams is a shadow of Ed Reed! I will admit that Roy Williams is a great player but that's a fact, Ed Reed is probably the best defensive player in football. He scores a touchdown every week! Get out of here you troll unless you have something to add to the dialog with some facts to back it up!
Lewis Says a Bengals Player Was Spit On Associated Press Monday, November 15, 2004; 6:12 PM
CINCINNATI -- Coach Marvin Lewis said one of his Cincinnati Bengals was spit on during a 17-10 victory in Washington, and he hopes the NFL does something to crack down.
Receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh confronted Redskins safety Sean Taylor at the end of the game Sunday, but declined to say why.
"It had nothing to do with physical contact," Houshmandzadeh said afterward. "He's a punk."
Lewis said Monday that one of his players -- he wouldn't confirm it was Houshmandzadeh -- got spit on. The receiver wasn't available for comment.
"We had a player spit on yesterday, and that's not right," Lewis said. "It's something that's been escalating from certain players. Hopefully the league will do something to cut it out."
Before their game in Cleveland on Sunday, Browns running back William Green and Steelers linebacker Joey Porter took swings at each other and were ejected. Green appeared to spit at Porter, who hit Green in the mouth.
I don't care about all this nonsense, all that matters is that taylor was ALL over the field yesterday, every pass, every run to the outside he was there. Can't wait to see him and arrington play together, having two ball hawks on the team. I'm satisfied with his play and if he keeps hitting people like rudi johnson he wont have anybody to spit on cause they'll all be on IR
if it's true, I'm sorry to all the Bengal fans and players, especially the guy it happened to. Spitting in someone's face, IMO, is one of the most disgusting and classless things you can do to someone. I certainly hope Gibbs gets to the bottom of this and makes sure it doesn't happen again. If it did anyway.
