Cowboys Getting stronger at DE

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:43 pm

Sarah Piland
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
Aug. 11, 2004, 6:13 p.m. (PDT)

OXNARD, Calif. -- As the first preseason game approaches, Dallas Cowboys head coach Bill Parcells' roster has a few spots open for the taking, especially on defense. One of the most surprising battles for a starting job may come between Marcellus Wiley and Kenyon Coleman at defensive end.

On paper, the two are an unlikely pair to be in competition. Wiley was a Pro Bowler in 2001 and 2002 before having a disappointing year in San Diego last season. The Chargers released him because his salary cap charge was set to increase significantly, and they didn't feel he was worth the money. The Cowboys signed him as an unrestricted free agent on March 11.

The Cowboys traded two draft picks to Oakland for Coleman in 2003 - a seemingly risky proposition since he was only active for one game and posted just one tackle with the Raiders the previous season. Coleman did play in all 16 games with the Cowboys last year, but did not start a game.

So what's the big idea, putting a two-time Pro Bowler in competition with a should-be scrub who hasn't even had time to prove himself worthy of the starting position?

It seems Parcells has no choice. Kenyon has gotten good.

"I think I'm gonna use both of those guys, I really do," Parcells said in his press conference here on Wednesday. "I think they're both gonna play a lot. Kenyon is doing too good. That's a very improved player right there for the Dallas Cowboys right now, Kenyon Coleman."

Coleman has improved a great deal since coming from the Raiders in 2003. His strength is what has Parcells so impressed, and it's not just one-dimensional power. Since he and Wiley are competing for the strong side defensive end position - the left side - Coleman's power has as noticeable stopping the run as it is rushing the passer.

Parcells says Coleman can get it done.

"He's powerful. He's probably our strongest defensive guy - in both areas," Parcells said of Coleman's ability to play the run and pass. "He's carrying a lot more weight better. He came here 280, and he was fat and soft. Now he's 290, and he's powerful."

Coleman has come out of practically no where, hasn't played much in the NFL and he's giving a big-namer a run for his money. And for now, Wiley has his hands full.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:53 pm

wandkwitham · Post by **wandkwitham** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:06 am

So what's the big idea, putting a two-time Pro Bowler in competition with a should-be scrub who hasn't even had time to prove himself worthy of the starting position?

Notice instead of stating the obvious - that the two time pro bowler's skills have fallen dramatically they make it seem like this schmo DE is the second coming. I read this article and it brought a smile to my face - the first good football news since the injury.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:12 am

It seems Parcells has no choice.

in other words

If Wiley's washed up someone will have to play

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:29 am

wandkwitham wrote:So what's the big idea, putting a two-time Pro Bowler in competition with a should-be scrub who hasn't even had time to prove himself worthy of the starting position?

Notice instead of stating the obvious - that the two time pro bowler's skills have fallen dramatically they make it seem like this schmo DE is the second coming. I read this article and it brought a smile to my face - the first good football news since the injury.

Or could it be that Coleman is a diamond in the ruff , putting on 10-15lbs of pure muscle and getting in shape for once. Kinda like Adewale Ogunleye who was a walk on free agent for the Dolphins in 2000. The guy that all of you skins fans want.

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:52 am

This doesn't change anything Gambit. Dallas still sucks and they always will!!!!! :wink:

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:16 am

gambit187 wrote:Or could it be that Coleman is a diamond in the ruff , putting on 10-15lbs of pure muscle and getting in shape for once. Kinda like Adewale Ogunleye who was a walk on free agent for the Dolphins in 2000. The guy that all of you skins fans want.

Your right... it could be..either way... it just shows they overpaid for wiley....

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:28 am

BringThePain! wrote:
gambit187 wrote:Or could it be that Coleman is a diamond in the ruff , putting on 10-15lbs of pure muscle and getting in shape for once. Kinda like Adewale Ogunleye who was a walk on free agent for the Dolphins in 2000. The guy that all of you skins fans want.

Your right... it could be..either way... it just shows they overpaid for wiley....

Yeah ok, just like you guys overpaid FOR A LONG LIST OF PLAYERS INCLUDING BRUNELL...DONT BE HATIN. JUST YELL LOUD ENOUGH FOR BRUNELL OR RAMSEY TO LOOK OUT AND DUCK. LOL

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:14 am

Pot wrote:
kettle wrote:Or could it be that Coleman is a diamond in the ruff , putting on 10-15lbs of pure muscle and getting in shape for once. Kinda like Adewale Ogunleye who was a walk on free agent for the Dolphins in 2000. The guy that all of you skins fans want.

Your right... it could be..either way... it just shows they overpaid for wiley....

Remember what they say about people who live in glass houses.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:25 am

General Failure wrote:Remember what they say about people who live in glass houses.

Buy stock in Windex? :lol:

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:26 am

That and get dressed in the basement.

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:29 am

Yes.. i know... it's just nice to be able to point the finger in somebody else's direction

JPFair · Post by **JPFair** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:31 pm

So, basically, whoever has the best connections for coke gets the job?

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:33 pm

JPFair wrote:So, basically, whoever has the best connections for coke gets the job?

Then i guess that would be Manley since he did so much he forgot how to read and Stark since he is good friends with Ex Mayor Barry. :roll:

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:55 pm

General Failure wrote:
Pot wrote:
kettle wrote:Or could it be that Coleman is a diamond in the ruff , putting on 10-15lbs of pure muscle and getting in shape for once. Kinda like Adewale Ogunleye who was a walk on free agent for the Dolphins in 2000. The guy that all of you skins fans want.

Your right... it could be..either way... it just shows they overpaid for wiley....

Remember what they say about people who live in glass houses.

Pot and Kettle ROTFALMAO