Sean Taylor Poll ???

wormer · Post by **wormer** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:45 pm

I'm not too worried yet about Mr. Taylor, but today's Post article is starting to send up some red flags in my book.

1) This agent process has taken WAY too long
2) Skipping out on the mandatory rookie symposium & the BS excuse
3) Skipping "several" organized team activities.

So the question is, will he be in camp on time or not????

groundss · Post by **groundss** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:21 pm

I'm just baffled by all this. I thought that one of the major reasons for drafting Taylor over Winslow was so that we could avoid off-the-field distractions. It's been nothing but a roller coaster ride with this guy and he hasn't even suited up yet. It all seems so uncharacteristic of a young man that was held in such high esteem back in April. I just hope he gets some guidance and can straighten things out. It would be awful to see such talent and potential go to waste.

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:42 pm

Off-season stuff is normally blown out of proportion and forgotten about by next year. That said, I don't think he'll be in camp on day one.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:58 pm

"Saen Taylor"? I think he has no chance of being in camp? Is he a free agent??

As for Sean Taylor, I think we can get him into camp soon. Joe's clout and determination to rid the team of distractions will have an impact on swift negotiations from the Skins, once knucklehead Sean gets an agent.

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:01 pm

groundss wrote:I'm just baffled by all this. I thought that one of the major reasons for drafting Taylor over Winslow was so that we could avoid off-the-field distractions. It's been nothing but a roller coaster ride with this guy and he hasn't even suited up yet. It all seems so uncharacteristic of a young man that was held in such high esteem back in April. I just hope he gets some guidance and can straighten things out. It would be awful to see such talent and potential go to waste.

First, welcome to the board!

Second.... What roller coaster ride are you talking about :hmm:

He hasn't spouted off at the mouth.... Hasn't yelled at the coach.... hasn't been caught doing an illegal activity...... Heck, I've barely seen him say a word..... the only thing he's done is:

1) hasn't hired an agent yet (Big deal it's July 12th.... Yes it's getting closer and closer to training camp... but we're still a month and a half away from the beginning of the season... if he signs one next week, this point is moot)

2) he missed a day of a rookie session which they learn about life as an NFL player..... because he was getting evicted from his apartment. Last i knew, getting evicted isn't a mortal sin

Man... if this is as bad as it gets then were gonna be alright....

Arrington56 · Post by **Arrington56** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:06 pm

I don't see why everyone is worried. He hasnt chose an agent because he is smart and wants to get the best guy who can help work out a deal that will be good for Sean and the team. He missed part of camp with a legit excuse in my opinion. And as far as the team activities they were not mandatory. Sure it would have been nice if he attended but he didn't have to. I am confident that he will be in camp and will develope into a leader on this team.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:20 pm

I think he suffered deep emotional and psychological trauma from the whole "Eye-burning Shaving-Gel-Pie-to-the-Grill" incident orchestrated by our own #56.

Someone get Johnnie Cochran on the phone. ROTFALMAO

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:32 pm

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:I think he suffered deep emotional and psychological trauma from the whole "Eye-burning Shaving-Gel-Pie-to-the-Grill" incident orchestrated by our own #56.

Someone get Johnnie Cochran on the phone.

Yeah, BTP, I think that you missed that on Taylor's list of "what he's done". . .take pies in the face.

And I agree with you--I'm glad that this is what we're nitpicking about rather than the kinds of problems inherent with drafting other kinds of guys (*cough* KWII *cough* *cough*)

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:51 pm

I'm not 100% sure, but I think he'll be there. I think this kid is a class act...and he'll do what it takes to be at camp on time....at least, I'm 75% sure he will

daddywatson · Post by **daddywatson** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:51 pm

You know, I was surprised to read that he missed some OTA's. Everything I had read had nothing but positives to say. And man... Not attending the full symposium when at a #5 draft pick with the salary implications that represents... Irresponsible. I mean He's not even signed(heck he doesn't even have a agent yet) and he's already going to cost the team $10,000. I personally would like this kid in camp, signed and ready to go!!! He is going to be the definitive cog in our defensive gearing.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:41 pm

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Someone get Johnnie Cochran on the phone.

To heck with that. What that boy needs, is for somebody to call Rick James. :lol:

Anyway, I think it's too much to do in too little time. He's gonna be late.
Sorry, kids.

Brandon777 · Post by **Brandon777** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:51 pm

I think he'll be there, but who knows. I'm starting to understand why Gibbs trades draft picks for veterans.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:56 pm

Brandy, I know you love the guy...but he's going to wind up being a circumstantial holdout.
The pain goes away after a few beers. I promise.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:37 pm

Watch how the first four pick fall...Taylor will sign shortly after.

GibbSkins · Post by **GibbSkins** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:04 pm

dont yell at me for saying this but i voted for zero % chance he will be ther the first day of camp....i hope im rong..but its not looking good...i mean he even missed some OTA's ..yes they werent maditory but thats not the point...hes new..he has alot to learn in a short time..and as far as missing the maditory rookie meetings that is just not right!!!! from what i know a landlord cant just through u out of your apartment.. they would need a court order to do so and i havent heard anything about one being involved...beleive me gibbs wont put up with much more of this nosence no matter how good he is...i think next year we should give all our draft picks and just pick up veterans who want to be at camp and play... these kids coming out of college are too imature and want top dollor before they have even proved themselfs...i wish i could get job that would pay me top dollar and hope i live up to how much i make

Robert K. · Post by **Robert K.** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:35 pm

DEHog wrote:Watch how the first four pick fall...Taylor will sign shortly after.

I agree. And it works in our favor that his position is rarely drafted so high... so he won't have any leverage to try to get more $$$ than his slotting dictates.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:38 pm

Taylor needs to get his head out his but and generate positive news

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:35 pm

redskincity wrote:Taylor needs to get his head out his but and generate positive news

agreed.

skin_to_the_bone · Post by **skin_to_the_bone** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:29 am

I voted 100%. I say he will right his ship and get this taking care of in due time, on time. As for everything else, he's young and he'll learn, bet your ass, he'll learn one way or another from Coach Gibbs....its his only option at this point.

groundss · Post by **groundss** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:40 am

BringThePain! wrote:What roller coaster ride are you talking about

Perhaps "roller coaster" is an exaggeration. But I was referring to: leaving rookie symposium early (for getting evicted?? since when are landlords worried about receiving rent money from professional football players?? bizarre), missing numerous voluntary practices, his reaction to rookie hazing, firing his agent and not hiring a new one regardless of the short time to negotiate before camp.

It's just been nothing but bad news. Am I genuinely worried that he's not gonna be in camp? No, I just wish he would grow up a little bit and take care these things sooner rather than later.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:53 am

groundss wrote:...his reaction to rookie hazing...

I was concerned about his toughness after the pie-in-the-face thing,as well.

He should have gone "drunken master" on the perpetrator. :lol:

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:09 am

groundss wrote:
BringThePain! wrote:What roller coaster ride are you talking about

Perhaps "roller coaster" is an exaggeration. But I was referring to: leaving rookie symposium early (for getting evicted?? since when are landlords worried about receiving rent money from professional football players?? bizarre), missing numerous voluntary practices, his reaction to rookie hazing, firing his agent and not hiring a new one regardless of the short time to negotiate before camp.

It's just been nothing but bad news. Am I genuinely worried that he's not gonna be in camp? No, I just wish he would grow up a little bit and take care these things sooner rather than later.

Yeah I hear what your saying... and some would lead us to believe that he's headed in a down hill direction... but i believe any negatives he might have brought himself, are small compared to other players in the league.... And we all have things about us that could be nit-picked as negative... we're just not in public view like he is...

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:39 pm

From Chris Mortensen ESPN:

Trent, DC: Mort, who is advising Sean Taylor? I have never seen a rookie wait this long to get an agent. Does this kid want to get paid or give Gibbs a headache?

Chris Mortensen: (12:56 PM ET ) I was told by somebody I trust that anybody selecting Taylor needed to do a lot of digging on the guy. That suggests he has some flaws, but let's give him the benefit of doubt until we see the end result.

groundss · Post by **groundss** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:42 pm

BTP, I couldn't agree more. These issues are minor yet because of the lack of news, they are all we have to talk about. My thinking is that in a couple months, when this kid is wreaking havoc on the gridiron, no one will even remember this garbage.

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:45 pm

groundss wrote:BTP, I couldn't agree more. These issues are minor yet because of the lack of news, they are all we have to talk about. My thinking is that in a couple months, when this kid is wreaking havoc on the gridiron, no one will even remember this garbage.

That is what we hope and expect.

But, name 1 top draft pick that went into late July with out an agent. It is obvious that either Sean Taylor is getting bad advice or even worse, if running the show himself (if this is how he works/thinks...uhh oh).

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