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WT: Redskins release center Moore
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:35 pm
by ANT7088
The Washington Redskins quietly released center Larry Moore on Friday to make room for extra undrafted free agents.
The cut wasn't unexpected, because the Redskins' signing of Cory Raymer and re-signing of Lennie Friedman seemed to signal Moore's departure. Also, Moore was in the last year of his contract, and Washington saved $1.3 million against the salary cap by cutting him.
Rest of Story...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/sports/2 ... -8619r.htm
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:23 am
by skinsfaninroanoke
now cwb can feel vindicated ::grin::
guess he got over that injury finally

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:37 am
by FatPat
She says in the article that we will save extra money by cutting Trotter june 1, I was under the impression that, in terms of the cap, we were not going to save any money by releasing trotter maybe we were going to take a pretty bad hit. Any info on his dead money if he is released?
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:50 am
by genuswine hoglover
FatPat wrote:She says in the article that we will save extra money by cutting Trotter june 1, I was under the impression that, in terms of the cap, we were not going to save any money by releasing trotter maybe we were going to take a pretty bad hit. Any info on his dead money if he is released?
We will have to take the remaining signing bonus as dead money over this year and next year (assuming he is cut after 6/1). However, we save extra money which represents his 2004 base, which according the the salary cap table here is $2.7 million.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:56 am
by hkiss444
Here is a list of dead money carried over from last year, that does not include Moore.
DT Dan Wilkinson: $3.94 million
G/T Rod Jones: $166,000
CB Alex Molden: $100,000
TE Zeron Flemister: $233,000
QB Rob Johnson: $125,000
P Bryan Barker: $125,000
DE Bruce Smith: $2.34 million
OLB Jesse Armstead: $417,000
CURRENT TOTAL: $7.446 million
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:35 am
by riggofan
If Bruce Smith has retired, do we still have to carry his $2.34 million as dead money?
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:54 am
by cwb4skins
haha..thanx skinsfan. I figured it would be a couple days before the story came out. I was just trying to keep everybody up to date of what was going on with the greatset team in all the universe!!
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:54 pm
by ANT7088
riggofan wrote:If Bruce Smith has retired, do we still have to carry his $2.34 million as dead money?
If he did, I don't think so but he was released so we have to pay the dead money.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:58 pm
by skinsfaninroanoke
we don't have to pay it, just count it against the cap.
cap hits aren't money to be paid - it is money that has been paid - the signing bonus in most cases - and has been spread over the length of the contract. When the person is cut or traded, the up front money that was spread out over the life of the now void contract gets taken out of the cap at once, or after June 1st, in two chunks.
Which is why we still owe money to Wilkinson and such....
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:09 pm
by 1niksder
cwb4skins wrote:haha..thanx skinsfan. I figured it would be a couple days before the story came out. I was just trying to keep everybody up to date of what was going on with the greatset team in all the universe!!
keep up the GOOD work cwb
the bengals picked him up already
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/s ... id=1792456
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:12 pm
by 1niksder
FatPat wrote: Any info on his dead money if he is released?
No dead money
from Pro Football Central
Redskins Running Out Of Options On Trotter
The Washington Redskins are running out of options as far as LB Jeremiah Trotter is concerned. Coach Joe Gibbs has no intent on having Trotter on the roster this season and appears to be a June 1st cut. The Seattle Seahawks are the only team to have shown some interest in Trotter but has no plans to trade for him. If the Redskins release Trotter,their will be no 2004 cap hit so this appears to be the most likely scenario.
http://www.profootballcentral.com/
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:00 pm
by hailskins666
1niksder wrote:FatPat wrote: Any info on his dead money if he is released?
No dead money
from Pro Football Central
Redskins Running Out Of Options On Trotter
The Washington Redskins are running out of options as far as LB Jeremiah Trotter is concerned. Coach Joe Gibbs has no intent on having Trotter on the roster this season and appears to be a June 1st cut. The Seattle Seahawks are the only team to have shown some interest in Trotter but has no plans to trade for him. If the Redskins release Trotter,their will be no 2004 cap hit so this appears to be the most likely scenario.
http://www.profootballcentral.com/
thats just plain incorrect. if we release trotter after june 1st, the remaining signing bonus on his deal will be split into 2 years..... half this year, and half next. there are no two ways around it, if you pay the bonus, it counts against the cap, whether or not the player remains on the roster. we don't have to count his yearly salary into the cap, but the bonus is there regardless.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:28 pm
by RedskinsRule56
Larry Moore signed a three year deal with Bungals today! I did not see the terms of the deal!
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:50 pm
by hailskins666
wow, another bungle. the former jets become skins, and the former skins in turn become bungles

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:29 pm
by BossHog
Only difference is, we don't wait until the Jets are done with them

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:32 pm
by hailskins666
no doubt. at least we pick em while they are still ripe, not rotten and falling off the tree...

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:36 pm
by Champsturf
Man BH. That was low. I sure hope Smizzy doens't see that.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:38 pm
by Champsturf
Actually, last year was the first year where we didn't pick up the rotten fruit. I was glad to see a littlge aggression from SOS. It's just too bad that he still couldn't coach at this level or could he....

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:42 pm
by hailskins666
i don't think that was spurrier. i'm not sure if he could tell his

from a hole in the ground in this league.

i think snyder and cerrato get the props for the jetskins. but i could be wrong.
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:49 pm
by njskinsfan
Didn't we pick up Reagan Upshaw last year???
His fruit (aka his knees) have been rotting for years and we signed him. Fiore was not ready to play last year and may never play again, unfortunately.
Are those fruit flies I see?
I hope this years crop does not spoil for a few years.
I hate farming analogies.