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Sundays Arizona game is going to be important for us to watch, they lose this one, it all but drops them out of the wildcard hunt, which is great for us.

Dallas is a really good team, we've barely lost to then twice... pre cousins that Dallas team would have DESTROYED us. We are a better team than the 5 upcoming teams we face... and realistically we can lose 2 if the upcoming 5 and still have a favored chance of making the playoffs at 9-6-1.

The 1 Game at a time mentality needs to continue, because we have a good chance to get in the playoffs starting with beating the cards.

They got destroyed by Atlanta, so that makes me feel a bit better about this game. I'm still worried that it's on the road, and we won't be able to stop their run game. The Cards still scare me the most out of our remaining opponents.

I think this is one of those games we have to win down the stretch if we want to keep playoffs a possibility. We have to get least three of the next five to have any shot, and none of these remaining games are gimmes.

Looking forward to digging into this matchup more this week.

By many measures, ARZ has the best D in the league. There is not a huge margin for error in this match-up. Stopping their run is paramount. Palmer can be pressured and rattled. Our DBs should be able to handle their WR corps. Making all our FG attempts (or not having as many due to TDs) would be nice.

DarthMonk wrote:By many measures, ARZ has the best D in the league. There is not a huge margin for error in this match-up. Stopping their run is paramount. Palmer can be pressured and rattled. Our DBs should be able to handle their WR corps. Making all our FG attempts (or not having as many due to TDs) would be nice.

Whatever measures those are, they're crap:

1 Sep 11 NE 23 @ ARI 21 Final 64,864 Carson Palmer
271 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
89 Yds (ARI) Larry Fitzgerald
81 Yds (ARI)
2 Sep 18 TB 7 @ ARI 40 Final 64,230 Carson Palmer
304 Yds (ARI) Chris Johnson
54 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
98 Yds (ARI)
3 Sep 25 ARI 18 @ BUF 33 Final 68,647 Carson Palmer
287 Yds (ARI) LeSean McCoy
110 Yds (BUF) John Brown
70 Yds (ARI)
4 Oct 02 LA 17 @ ARI 13 Final 64,622 Carson Palmer
288 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
83 Yds (ARI) John Brown
144 Yds (ARI)
5 Oct 06 ARI 33 @ SF 21 Final 70,178 Blaine Gabbert
162 Yds (SF) David Johnson
157 Yds (ARI) Jeremy Kerley
102 Yds (SF)
6 Oct 17 NYJ 3 @ ARI 28 Final 64,709 Carson Palmer
213 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
111 Yds (ARI) Brandon Marshall
70 Yds (NYJ)
7 Oct 23 SEA 6 @ ARI 6 Final 65,089 Carson Palmer
342 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
113 Yds (ARI) J.J. Nelson
84 Yds (ARI)
8 Oct 30 ARI 20 @ CAR 30 Final 74,088 Carson Palmer
363 Yds (ARI) Jonathan Stewart
95 Yds (CAR) David Johnson
84 Yds (ARI)
9 Bye
10 Nov 13 SF 20 @ ARI 23 Final 65,127 Carson Palmer
376 Yds (ARI) Colin Kaepernick
55 Yds (SF) Larry Fitzgerald
132 Yds (ARI)
11 Nov 20 ARI 24 @ MIN 30 Final 66,808 Carson Palmer
198 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
103 Yds (ARI) Adam Thielen
65 Yds (MIN)
12 Nov 27 ARI 19 @ ATL 38 Final 69,233 Carson Palmer
289 Yds (ARI) Devonta Freeman
60 Yds (ATL) David Johnson
103 Yds (ARI)

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:By many measures, ARZ has the best D in the league. There is not a huge margin for error in this match-up. Stopping their run is paramount. Palmer can be pressured and rattled. Our DBs should be able to handle their WR corps. Making all our FG attempts (or not having as many due to TDs) would be nice.

Whatever measures those are, they're crap:

1 Sep 11 NE 23 @ ARI 21 Final 64,864 Carson Palmer
271 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
89 Yds (ARI) Larry Fitzgerald
81 Yds (ARI)
2 Sep 18 TB 7 @ ARI 40 Final 64,230 Carson Palmer
304 Yds (ARI) Chris Johnson
54 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
98 Yds (ARI)
3 Sep 25 ARI 18 @ BUF 33 Final 68,647 Carson Palmer
287 Yds (ARI) LeSean McCoy
110 Yds (BUF) John Brown
70 Yds (ARI)
4 Oct 02 LA 17 @ ARI 13 Final 64,622 Carson Palmer
288 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
83 Yds (ARI) John Brown
144 Yds (ARI)
5 Oct 06 ARI 33 @ SF 21 Final 70,178 Blaine Gabbert
162 Yds (SF) David Johnson
157 Yds (ARI) Jeremy Kerley
102 Yds (SF)
6 Oct 17 NYJ 3 @ ARI 28 Final 64,709 Carson Palmer
213 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
111 Yds (ARI) Brandon Marshall
70 Yds (NYJ)
7 Oct 23 SEA 6 @ ARI 6 Final 65,089 Carson Palmer
342 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
113 Yds (ARI) J.J. Nelson
84 Yds (ARI)
8 Oct 30 ARI 20 @ CAR 30 Final 74,088 Carson Palmer
363 Yds (ARI) Jonathan Stewart
95 Yds (CAR) David Johnson
84 Yds (ARI)
9 Bye
10 Nov 13 SF 20 @ ARI 23 Final 65,127 Carson Palmer
376 Yds (ARI) Colin Kaepernick
55 Yds (SF) Larry Fitzgerald
132 Yds (ARI)
11 Nov 20 ARI 24 @ MIN 30 Final 66,808 Carson Palmer
198 Yds (ARI) David Johnson
103 Yds (ARI) Adam Thielen
65 Yds (MIN)
12 Nov 27 ARI 19 @ ATL 38 Final 69,233 Carson Palmer
289 Yds (ARI) Devonta Freeman
60 Yds (ATL) David Johnson
103 Yds (ARI)

You seem to have pasted attendance figures, a bunch of offense from ARZ, and some "big" games by a few opposing players ...

McCoy runs for 110.
Gabbert throws for 162 and 102 of it goes to Kerley.
Marshall gets 70 yards receiving.
Stewart runs for 110.
Kap runs for 55.
Thielen gets 55 yards receiving.
Freeman runs for 60.



Have a few teams scored on 'em? Sure. Doesn't make my post or the rankings wrong.

ARZ is #1 in NFL for fewest yards allowed.
ARZ #1 in NFL for fewest TD passes allowed.
ARZ 13 yards behind Denver for fewest passing yards allowed.

Since we are the #2 offense in yards gained, have thrown for 20 of our 29 offensive TDs, and are 51 yards behind New Orleans for #1 in NFL passing offense I'd call it strength on strength against one of the best defenses in the NFL.

Turns out ARZ has the NFL's #2 rusher. As I said, stopping their run is paramount and there is not a lot of margin for error in this one.

StorminMormon86 wrote:They got destroyed by Atlanta, so that makes me feel a bit better about this game. I'm still worried that it's on the road, and we won't be able to stop their run game. The Cards still scare me the most out of our remaining opponents.

not sure I understand this reasoning - The Cardinals are one of a number of good teams that normally follow up bad games with good games and especially because they are playing at home and this game is a lot more important for them

I fully expect the Vikings to beat the pukes this week - they are not as good as the pukes but they will be a lot more motivated and beating Dallas is simply a matter of making them throw the ball - the Vikings will have watched film and will stop the run game

I'm sure the Vikes will do a decent job at stopping the run with the Cowboys. The Vikes' problem though is that their offense is HORRIBLE. They cannot run the ball at all.

DarthMonk wrote:Redacted

Saw no sense in quoting that mess again. Guess the code tags didn't take.

Anyway, the point was they've given up a lot of points to some really bad teams.

They're 11th in points allowed per game.

riggofan wrote:I'm sure the Vikes will do a decent job at stopping the run with the Cowboys. The Vikes' problem though is that their offense is HORRIBLE. They cannot run the ball at all.

I still think that the Vikings have the better HC and the better QB - and ... the pukes are not near as good as the media thinks

riggofan wrote:I'm sure the Vikes will do a decent job at stopping the run with the Cowboys. The Vikes' problem though is that their offense is HORRIBLE. They cannot run the ball at all.

Makes sense. I'll be picking the Cowboys.

DarthMonk wrote:

riggofan wrote:I'm sure the Vikes will do a decent job at stopping the run with the Cowboys. The Vikes' problem though is that their offense is HORRIBLE. They cannot run the ball at all.

Makes sense. I'll be picking the Cowboys.

Damn, man. I'm not trying to help you with your picks. Aren't you killing everyone in Hognostications??? I picked 11 winners the past two weeks and still can't even see you from where I'm ranked!!!

SJ, do you really believe Bradford is a better QB than Dak? I know Prescott is still a rookie and the jury needs to be out on him, but Bradford has just shown himself to be wildly inconsistent. I'd take Prescott any day over him.

Thanks for posting those Cards numbers btw.

I'm not 'sold' on the puke QB - he's got better players on offense than Bradford

the vikings win this game and the pukes win the NFC East

we have to find a way to win in Arizona - this would be a huge boost for the Redskins

SkinsJock wrote:I'm not 'sold' on the puke QB - he's got better players on offense than Bradford

Yeah I don't think anyone should be sold on Dak Prescott yet. My point was more towards Bradford. He's proven to be the same QB with three teams now from what I can see.

Sucks to say, but I'm hoping the Pukes beat them this weekend. We're competing with the Vikes for the wildcard.

SkinsJock wrote:we have to find a way to win in Arizona - this would be a huge boost for the Redskins

No doubt.

riggofan wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:

riggofan wrote:I'm sure the Vikes will do a decent job at stopping the run with the Cowboys. The Vikes' problem though is that their offense is HORRIBLE. They cannot run the ball at all.

Makes sense. I'll be picking the Cowboys.

Damn, man. I'm not trying to help you with your picks. Aren't you killing everyone in Hognostications??? I picked 11 winners the past two weeks and still can't even see you from where I'm ranked!!!

SJ, do you really believe Bradford is a better QB than Dak? I know Prescott is still a rookie and the jury needs to be out on him, but Bradford has just shown himself to be wildly inconsistent. I'd take Prescott any day over him.

Thanks for posting those Cards numbers btw.

Was definitely going with the Cowgirls anyway.

And no kidding about Hognostications - I just went 9, 9, 9, 11, 11 and the only week that won was the first 9.