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Not a surprise, but still news.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... of-release

So long, RGIII. I wish you the best with your next team, except when you play the Skins. Thanks for one of the most exciting seasons of football I have ever watched.
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Don't understand why they waited so long.
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Best wishes to him. 2012 was incredible, and I appreciate how he handled the situation last year.
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riggofan wrote:Best wishes to him. 2012 was incredible, and I appreciate how he handled the situation last year.


+1 - well said
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God Speed Robert, I had a front row seat during your 2012 season. One of the most electrifying seasons I’ve ever witness. I wish you much success in the future!

P.S. Keep is classy as you exit Redskins Park!!
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It was a blessing guys. After 4 years, my days as a part of this team have come to an end. I just want to take the time to say thank you #SkinsNation. Thank you for welcoming my family with open arms in 2012. You guys made it truly an honor to play for you and I couldn't imagine starting my career anywhere else. Thank you to Dan Snyder, Bruce Allen, all the Skins coaches, training staff, equipment managers and everyone in the organization for giving me an opportunity to play this beautiful game at the highest level here in Washington. A special thanks to front desk extraordinaire B.J. Blanchard, who always has a smile on her face and is the plug for chocolate chips cookies. Thank you to my teammates for all the memories & relationships over the past 4 years. You guys have helped thru all the ups and downs over the years and have become a part of my family for life. I wish you all the best and you always have a brother to lean on. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You. Although my time here is over, I'm excited about what the future brings!!! I look forward to finding the team where God has me to be and growing with that team on the way to World Championships. God Bless #ThankYou

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StorminMormon86 wrote:Don't understand why they waited so long.


Holding out hope for an unlikely trade?

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StorminMormon86 wrote:Don't understand why they waited so long.


1. Scot wanted to see if a team would trade for him.
2. Scot wanted to have the Cousins deal locked up before RGIII was released.
3. They had until March 9th.
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Finally, I don't know they dragged this out so long but now Griffin is free to find a team. Good luck him.
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Whatever. Get out. Good riddance. I hope the door hits you in the ass on your way out. That's what happens when people beat a dead horse for two years. Apathy. Go suck elsewhere.
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[-X you could have just let it go
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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SkinsJock wrote:[-X you could have just let it go


No one else did. It's all anyone has talked about for two years. And all day today. For a player who has done very little in terms of great Redskins players. Kirk Cousins has already done as much as RGIII did, you know, getting the team to the first round of the playoffs and losing. Are we going to talk about Cousins two years after he's become irrelevant, too?
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Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:[-X you could have just let it go


No one else did. It's all anyone has talked about for two years. And all day today. For a player who has done very little in terms of great Redskins players. Kirk Cousins has already done as much as RGIII did, you know, getting the team to the first round of the playoffs and losing. Are we going to talk about Cousins two years after he's become irrelevant, too?


I think we have reason to believe that we have 6-10 years of Cousins relevance ahead of us and hopefully Kirk's time will be so productive that Skins fans will have reason to speak of him in glowing terms for a couple generations. Why not us?
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Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:No one else did. It's all anyone has talked about for two years. And all day today. For a player who has done very little in terms of great Redskins players. Kirk Cousins has already done as much as RGIII did, you know, getting the team to the first round of the playoffs and losing. Are we going to talk about Cousins two years after he's become irrelevant, too?

I'm quite fascinated by this. The guy won 9 games in 2012. The guy we gave up the farm for. The guy who did absolutely nothing after 2012 for this team. And here we are singing his praises saying things like, "I'll never forget 2012...it was magical", etc. And I think it essentially boils down to life as a Skins fan. We had nothing to hang our hat on for years since Snyder bought the team (besides Gibbs 2), so when Griffin came along we were so ready for something positive that the fanbase collectively bought into the hype and made him something that he never really was. Mark Brunell had more effective years here as a QB (and even won a playoff game) and this fanbase wanted him run out of town for Jason Campbell. Life as a Skins fan.
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at the end of the 2012 season, everyone and anyone (except those who just want to hate) was really excited about our 2 QBs

there are a few posters here that are showing how classless they are - screw them

Robert deserves a lot of the blame for not living up to expectations but it certainly is not all his fault - Dan Snyder & others deserve some too
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I often wonder how “really” close the Skins came to trading Cousins. What would today look like had that happened?
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DEHog wrote:I often wonder how “really” close the Skins came to trading Cousins. What would today look like had that happened?

after the injuries to Griffin I don't think the Redskins would have traded Cousins unless there was a good offer ...

there's no doubt that we're very lucky that we still have Cousins as it would not have taken much to make a trade ...

I wonder whether we'd have Gruden here if Cousins was traded in 2013 or what might have become of Griffin with better preparation for playing in the NFL - woulda, coulda, shoulda - the thing is we're in a lot better shape because we have GM Scot here and that might not be the case if not for the sorry state this franchise was in because of the Griffin trade and Snyder's interfering afterwards
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this from Mike Freeman ...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2622 ... n-redskins

the GREAT news for the Redskins is that we most likely would not be where we are today if we had not made the trade for Griffin

We now have a guy in charge that will continue to dig us out of the mess created by Dan Snyder
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SkinsJock wrote:the GREAT news for the Redskins is that we most likely would not be where we are today if we had not made the trade for Griffin


Not sure I would ever try to put a positive spin on that fiasco. The article is 100% correct about the lesson learned there.

However, I've always said that we took TWO quarterbacks that year. If ONE of them pans out as a long term solution at QB, then I'm not going to feel badly about what we gave up to get there.

I think its easy for people outside of DC to say we gave up too much or Snyder was lusting after a QB. But as a fan - seeing the number of quarterbacks we've gone through, and how long it has been since we had anything close to a franchise QB - I understand why he was so desperate to try to make it happen.
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riggofan wrote:Not sure I would ever try to put a positive spin on that fiasco. The article is 100% correct about the lesson learned there.


We'd have been fine if they'd have let Mike Shanahan do the job they hired him to do, which included being in charge of player personnel and the draft. But, no. Danny and his sockpuppet Bruce had to have RGIII.

The only positive spin is he's gone. Now, if only everyone would stop talking about him as though he will even be remembered in ten years. He won't.
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riggofan wrote:Not sure I would ever try to put a positive spin on that fiasco. The article is 100% correct about the lesson learned there.

I'm not trying to put any type of spin on what happened - just posting that if Mike had not been forced to draft Griffin and had made this franchise be more successful we would not be looking at Scot fixing the mess that Snyder caused and would have continued to mismanage




I thank God that whole mess happened ... :lol:
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riggofan wrote:Not sure I would ever try to put a positive spin on that fiasco. The article is 100% correct about the lesson learned there.

I'm not trying to put any type of spin on what happened - just posting that if Mike had not been forced to draft Griffin and had made this franchise be more successful we would not be looking at Scot fixing the mess that Snyder caused and would have continued to mismanage


I hear you man. I'm definitely feeling better that we might be on the right track. Like you wrote earlier, its nice not looking like the most dysfunctional team in the division for a change too!
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Somewhere in the history of the NFL someone made a huge trade gamble that worked out but clearly trading the farm for one guy is a foolish suckers bet. I think a second and more subtle but also very important lesson is it is extremely risky to draft an option QB. It is impossible make any kind of assessment if an option QB is capable of processing the field quick enough to play in an NFL QB. Sure you can assess the strength and accuracy of his arm and a number of other things but the most important attribute to look for in a QB is their processing power and a option QB career doesn't provide any data to assess.

Fewer college teams run pro style attacks but those systems reward quick thinkers and weed out the rest. Teams are successful picking spread guys but the single read option systems like Baylor's are obviously not a good proving grounds for future NFL QBs. Drafting a QB is a risky anyways because even college guys that have performed in a pro set against college defenses frequently wash out in the NFL because the coverage and rushes are more complex, the windows are smaller but at least you have some positive indication of their capacity to understand and process what they see on the field whereas drafting an option QB is an act of faith.
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Apparently Coóley went into some of the behind the scenes of Robert as a locker room presence, and particularly his working and friendship relationship with Kirk: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc- ... k-cousins/

Bottom line: RG3 ‘was never willing to be friends with Kirk Cousins’
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Irn-Bru wrote:Apparently Coóley went into some of the behind the scenes of Robert as a locker room presence, and particularly his working and friendship relationship with Kirk: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc- ... k-cousins/

Bottom line: RG3 ‘was never willing to be friends with Kirk Cousins’


Same could be said that Kirk was never willing to be friends with Robert. But you got it the other way around in the article because Kirk and Chris Cooley are friends and have hung out on several occasions. The insight on the offensive line (not all) probably is true with Kory Lichtenstieger and former player Tyler Polumbus being friends with Chris too.

The real bottom line is our offensive line still had issues because we could not run the ball, and when we went against decent defenses struggled to pass protect.

Chris is a tight end not a quarterback he has some good points on many things but I never really took his words for the real deal on Kirk nor Robert. He never played the position.
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