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- Jay Gruden“It’s not so much what he didn’t do, it’s just the other guys are playing better to be honest with you.”
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It makes no sense to hold onto a high pick that didn't workout. Cut Griffin, who doesn't deserve a roster spot, and use the spot for someone who can contribute in 2015.
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OldSchool wrote:It makes no sense to hold onto a high pick that didn't workout. Cut Griffin, who doesn't deserve a roster spot, and use the spot for someone who can contribute in 2015.
Gruden obviously does not know who to cut and who to keep ...

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I have no doubt a team will give Amerson a look. He has talent. He just has a problem keeping his head in the game. Maybe someone can get through to him. 

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SkinsJock wrote:OldSchool wrote:It makes no sense to hold onto a high pick that didn't workout. Cut Griffin, who doesn't deserve a roster spot, and use the spot for someone who can contribute in 2015.
Gruden obviously does not know who to cut and who to keep ...![]()
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Are you suggesting RGIII should've been cut before Amerson? I think there may be a trade market for RGIII and i doubt anyone would give anything for Amerson, i think this was probably a good move. The guy was bad last year and was terrible against Miami. I wish him well but am not sad to see him go.
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SkinsJock wrote:OldSchool wrote:It makes no sense to hold onto a high pick that didn't workout. Cut Griffin, who doesn't deserve a roster spot, and use the spot for someone who can contribute in 2015.
Gruden obviously does not know who to cut and who to keep ...![]()
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If you think Griffin, who can't execute Gruden's offense, warrants a roster spot make your case. I think SM & JG would rather have Amerson on the inactive list than Griffin, this looks like Snyder meddling to me.
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Once again... there may be a market for Griffin... there will NEVER be a market for Amerson...
...yes, I know... math is hard.
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Are you suggesting RGIII should've been cut before Amerson? I think there may be a trade market for RGIII and i doubt anyone would give anything for Amerson, i think this was probably a good move. The guy was bad last year and was terrible against Miami. I wish him well but am not sad to see him go. [/quote]
Absolutely I'd cut Griffin before Amerson. Amerson has some value to the team unlike Griffin.
Are you suggesting RGIII should've been cut before Amerson? I think there may be a trade market for RGIII and i doubt anyone would give anything for Amerson, i think this was probably a good move. The guy was bad last year and was terrible against Miami. I wish him well but am not sad to see him go. [/quote]
Absolutely I'd cut Griffin before Amerson. Amerson has some value to the team unlike Griffin.
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OldSchool wrote:SkinsJock wrote:OldSchool wrote:It makes no sense to hold onto a high pick that didn't workout. Cut Griffin, who doesn't deserve a roster spot, and use the spot for someone who can contribute in 2015.
Gruden obviously does not know who to cut and who to keep ...![]()
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If you think Griffin, who can't execute Gruden's offense, warrants a roster spot make your case. I think SM & JG would rather have Amerson on the inactive list than Griffin, this looks like Snyder meddling to me.
Must every thread devolve into a discussion on RGIII?

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OldSchool wrote:SkinsJock wrote:OldSchool wrote:It makes no sense to hold onto a high pick that didn't workout. Cut Griffin, who doesn't deserve a roster spot, and use the spot for someone who can contribute in 2015.
Gruden obviously does not know who to cut and who to keep ...![]()
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If you think Griffin, who can't execute Gruden's offense, warrants a roster spot make your case. I think SM & JG would rather have Amerson on the inactive list than Griffin, this looks like Snyder meddling to me.
Just because you hate RGIII doesn't mean Snyder is meddling with the decision to cut an underperforming Amerson (if that's what you mean). I don't blame the Skins' for holding on to RGIII and trying to recoup something for him and I don't blame them for cutting Amerson, he's had his chances and there's no market for him. The case for holding onto Griffin is simple, they invested a ton into him and there was no guarantee how Cousins would handle starting (still isn't) and QB's are in high demand. Either they get a trade offer or have to cut him later if Cousins works out but there's not much risk holding onto him, imo.
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Are you suggesting RGIII should've been cut before Amerson? I think there may be a trade market for RGIII and i doubt anyone would give anything for Amerson, i think this was probably a good move. The guy was bad last year and was terrible against Miami. I wish him well but am not sad to see him go. [/quote]
Absolutely I'd cut Griffin before Amerson. Amerson has some value to the team unlike Griffin.[/quote]
I think you're wrong, just my opinion though and you think i'm wrong so moot point i guess. Amerson provides no value, he was replaced by a drafted safety at CB for crying out loud and got targeted on every play he was in the game against Miami (if that doesn't tell you what other teams think of him then I don't know what will). Meanwhile, ex exec's such as Bill Polian are on record that he'd have his scouts looking real hard at RGIII. Lose your hate on RGIII, we get it already.
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Last week, once Amerson entered the game, the Rams targeted him on almost EVERY pass play... let me repeat that... almost EVERY PASS PLAY... it did not matter whom he was covering... whomever Amerson was assigned to automatically became the first option. There was a reason for that. He did not let the Dolphins down. This has nothing to do with Griffin... but, somehow, everything gets twisted to that by some haters.
I think Griffin is probably done contributing... but I can also see how he may have value to the team... Amerson, on the other hand, will never play another down for the 'Skins... and probably any other team that is just to the sane side of delusional...
I think Griffin is probably done contributing... but I can also see how he may have value to the team... Amerson, on the other hand, will never play another down for the 'Skins... and probably any other team that is just to the sane side of delusional...
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Countertrey wrote:Last week, once Amerson entered the game, the Rams targeted him on almost EVERY pass play... let me repeat that... almost EVERY PASS PLAY... it did not matter whom he was covering... whomever Amerson was assigned to automatically became the first option. There was a reason for that. He did not let the Dolphins down.
Absolutely correct. Amerson plays with his head stuck up his ass.
Countertrey wrote:I think Griffin is probably done contributing... but I can also see how he may have value to the team... Amerson, on the other hand, will never play another down for the 'Skins... and probably any other team that is just to the sane side of delusional...
Griffin isn't going to be cut outright because two NFC East opponents are known to have inquired about his availability in a trade. Both Philadelphia and Dallas would jump at the chance to sign RGIII for next to nothing. Dan Snyder isn't going to sign off on that. Neither is any competent general manager. The fact that it becomes a discussion in virtually every thread is nauseating. His roster space is reserved for a player guaranteed to never see the field whether that player is RGIII or someone else. These "cut him and get a player we can use" posts are ridiculous on face. There isn't one player on the waiver wire that we can use enough to justify cutting a quarterback known to have trade value. Excuse me while I go spit up the bile that backs up in my throat every time this becomes a discussion.
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OldSchool wrote:I think SM & JG would rather have Amerson on the inactive list than Griffin, this looks like Snyder meddling to me.
Really ???
I think Scot cut him without even pondering running it by Dan. They needed room for Culliver now that Breeland is back. 17 teams carry 3 QBs.
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My GOD, man! How can you be rational at a time like this????DarthMonk wrote:OldSchool wrote:I think SM & JG would rather have Amerson on the inactive list than Griffin, this looks like Snyder meddling to me.
Really ???
I think Scot cut him without even pondering running it by Dan. They needed room for Culliver now that Breeland is back. 17 teams carry 3 QBs.
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So: if the discussion is about whether Drew Storen has a future in Washington, the answer is to cut Robert Griffin first????
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welch wrote:So: if the discussion is about whether Drew Storen has a future in Washington, the answer is to cut Robert Griffin first????
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Yes, so the Redskins can sign Storen.

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John Keim saw the writing on the wall.
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John Keim wrote:5. The Redskins really seem to be as much about discipline in their assignments as anything this season. The scouting report I had on coordinator Joe Barry suggested as much, but it’s playing out that way. And I have to believe that’s part of why David Amerson didn’t play a single snap on defense, passed by a rookie safety (Kyshoen Jarrett) and a corner signed less than a week ago (Will Blackmon). Both served different roles, playing in the slot in nickel and dime packages. But if they had more trust in Amerson, he would have made his way to the outside with Bashaud Breeland slipping inside. However, Amerson’s inconsistencies have bugged them. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with him considering there’s no one on the coaching staff who advocated for drafting him in 2013 – and it’s a new general manager. I wondered about Amerson this summer before final cuts. You need corner depth, but the Redskins simply don’t trust him anymore.
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I love busting the Griffin haters who are just so biased they would cut a player that offered some value just because they can't stand seeing him here ... OR ... what if we actually needed a 3rd QB ... Griffin is here because guys that know what they are doing are in charge here NOT because Snyder wants him here - get over yourselves, you do not have a clue about who can play or not play this game ... 

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Countertrey wrote:Last week, once Amerson entered the game, the Rams targeted him on almost EVERY pass play... let me repeat that... almost EVERY PASS PLAY... it did not matter whom he was covering... whomever Amerson was assigned to automatically became the first option. There was a reason for that. He did not let the Dolphins down. This has nothing to do with Griffin... but, somehow, everything gets twisted to that by some haters.
Nailed it, CT. I listened to Shawn Springs talking about Amerson on 980 this morning. He pointed out exactly what you wrote. Said when you're out there playing without confidence that you become a target for NFL offenses.
Countertrey wrote:I think Griffin is probably done contributing... but I can also see how he may have value to the team... Amerson, on the other hand, will never play another down for the 'Skins... and probably any other team that is just to the sane side of delusional...
Springs said getting cut is a big wake up call. Suddenly you realize it doesn't matter where you were drafted. You have to deliver or you're going to be on the street. Love that guy.
And yeah, the comparison of Griffin's situation and Amerson's is completely stupid. QB is the most valuable commodity in the league. We've sent a message to the rest of the league that we're not just going to let Griffin go for nothing.
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SkinsJock wrote:I love busting the Griffin haters who are just so biased they would cut a player that offered some value just because they can't stand seeing him here ...
Yeah its just reactionary and short sighted. My take right now is that we've been giving all this credit to McCloughan since he got here. I'm sure he'll have hits and misses along the way, but I his moves so far. I don't know his exact reason for keeping Griffin, but I'm going to trust that Scot knows what he is doing.
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OldSchool wrote:If you think Griffin, who can't execute Gruden's offense, warrants a roster spot make your case. I think SM & JG would rather have Amerson on the inactive list than Griffin, this looks like Snyder meddling to me.
I always err on the side of Danny meddling, but I don't think that is the case here. RGIII does add trade value and therefore is worth more than Amerson. If I were the GM, I would have done the same thing.
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OldSchool wrote:If you think Griffin, who can't execute Gruden's offense, warrants a roster spot make your case. I think SM & JG would rather have Amerson on the inactive list than Griffin, this looks like Snyder meddling to me.
Griffin is worth at least a conditional draft pick. No further case needs to be made.
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[quote=Griffin isn't going to be cut outright because two NFC East opponents are known to have inquired about his availability in a trade. Both Philadelphia and Dallas would jump at the chance to sign RGIII for next to nothing. Dan Snyder isn't going to sign off on that. Neither is any competent general manager. The fact that it becomes a discussion in virtually every thread is nauseating. His roster space is reserved for a player guaranteed to never see the field whether that player is RGIII or someone else. These "cut him and get a player we can use" posts are ridiculous on face. There isn't one player on the waiver wire that we can use enough to justify cutting a quarterback known to have trade value. Excuse me while I go spit up the bile that backs up in my throat every time this becomes a discussion.[/quote]
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