Keeping up with official signings and cap space.

[Prowl33]

***3/16 edit*** Skins sign Jeron Johnson

**3/14 edit** Retrieved updated cap numbers from overthecap.com

*3/13 edit* Chris Culliver signed to approx 8mill per year, that eats the remaining cap we had.

Official thread to keep track of who has officially signed, cap numbers, who we are looking at signing, and who we can cut to create more cap space.

We entered FA with approx 25mill

We signed... (with known or estimated cap hit this year)

Kai Forbath 1.54 mill
Niles Paul approx 1.83 mill
Terrance Knighton 4.45 mill
Stephen Paea 4.25 mill
Ricky Jean-Francois 2 mill
Chris Culliver 4.25 mill
Jeron Johnsin 2 mill

Remaining cap space 9.73 mill

[EA7649]

Not a lot left with no addition to DBs. Better get some in the draft!

[Prowl33]

Some possible cuts

Pierre Garcon 5.2million
Tracy Porter 2.3million
Chris Chester 4million

That would take us from 8 million to 19.5million in space.

Then we could target Gilchrist and taylor mayes which we currently have interest in both. I would look at Dwayne Bowe. We are hosting Culliver former CB of 49ers as well. Also Justin Blalock at RG or Rob Sims at RG or LG are the last decent linemen left in FA at this point.

Making a few of those happen should leave enough for the draft, and working on extensions with Trent and Kerrigan.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

^ well put right there Prowl!!

Id hope we can restructure Garçon, but maybe we trade away the cap hit for a position of need. Even with Hanktime gone we still have good depth in Tana Grant and Roberts.. Garçon was kind of a disappointed last year but hes good.. not #1 good, but good.. seems like we have a lot of #2/3s tho...

[Prowl33]

Also thinking we cut Paulson get that 1.75mill and we pickup a bigger runblocking TE in mid-late draft.

Another option to look at may be Trent Richardson. Running backs are going cheap and he may be a steal as he needs to redeem himself. A 1 or 2 year deal may be worth it for cheap and he can either be #2 behind alf or if he does eventually unlock his talent we can run a split system. We have been linked to Forsett, this would be a cheaper option.

[riggofan]

^ well put right there Prowl!!

Id hope we can restructure Garçon, but maybe we trade away the cap hit for a position of need. Even with Hanktime gone we still have good depth in Tana Grant and Roberts.. Garçon was kind of a disappointed last year but hes good.. not #1 good, but good.. seems like we have a lot of #2/3s tho...

I think some folks are vastly underestimating Garcon. Not #1 good? That guy pretty much single-handedly carried our WR corps before DJax got here. Never would have made that playoff run in 2012 without him.

I hope the team doesn't have to restructure him. It would be better to absorb the cap hit and get it off the books than push it further down the road just so we can sign this year's Tracy Porter. It looks to me like SM is trying to be very smart with our contracts and what we're paying guys in free agency. Avoiding restructures is part of that.

[tribeofjudah]

Skins address leaky back end, add CB Culliver
Redskins signed CB Chris Culliver, formerly of the 49ers, to a four-year, $32 million contract.
Culliver flashed his playmaking prowess in 2014 by reeling in four interceptions, one more than he had in his previous two seasons combined. Washington's secondary was among the league's worst last season, finishing 24th in passing yards allowed. David Amerson was particularly inept at right corner, routinely getting roasted on deep passes. Culliver should form an impressive tandem with promising 23-year-old Bashaud Breeland.

[Prowl33]

So now with Culliver we sit at no cap space left... means we may see some cuts coming soon. Think we need what, 4-5mill for draft, and we could still use atleast 1 FA O lineman and 1 safety to really be comfortable

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

^ well put right there Prowl!!

Id hope we can restructure Garçon, but maybe we trade away the cap hit for a position of need. Even with Hanktime gone we still have good depth in Tana Grant and Roberts.. Garçon was kind of a disappointed last year but hes good.. not #1 good, but good.. seems like we have a lot of #2/3s tho...

I think some folks are vastly underestimating Garcon. Not #1 good? That guy pretty much single-handedly carried our WR corps before DJax got here. Never would have made that playoff run in 2012 without him.

I hope the team doesn't have to restructure him. It would be better to absorb the cap hit and get it off the books than push it further down the road just so we can sign this year's Tracy Porter. It looks to me like SM is trying to be very smart with our contracts and what we're paying guys in free agency. Avoiding restructures is part of that.

Thats a good opinion. I think RG was most comfortable with him, but I think DJax in town would've been similar outcome- who knows?
Last year he was lackadaisical, and honestly a non threat.Sure the TD vs the Titans was fun- but moreso a horrid play by the defender. I havent seen #1 talent from him- Magatron, Andre Johnson, Dez, Beckham, Green, Nelson, Fitz... I could go on, but hes NOT in their class. Now restructure I meant convince him to take less haha ina perfect world right?
Im ok with him gone honestly. I saw him take too many plays off last year. Maybe he gets a fire this year and plays his ass off- contract year? Is he worth the change wed save is the question.. Id take oline and S free agents over him honestly. TANNA TIME!!! LOL

I think people tend to think Skins who perform well are better in the football world then they are because they are skins.. I know im guilty of that.. but saying hes a number 1 because he carried a shiiiiity WR core on his back doesnt tell me he is a true #1 more then it tells me we had a pathetic WR core.

[Deadskins]

Think we need what, 4-5mill for draft

Pretty sure that there is a "rookie pool" for draft picks that doesn't figure into the cap situation.

[PAPDOG67]

You guys are nuts wanting to get rid of Garcon. Our WR corps are razor thin as it is. If we do that, then we better be looking for a WR in the 1st or second round. Chester should have been released last year. I don't understand why he is still tying up a roster spot at this point. He was one of if not the worst OG in the NFL last season.

[riggofan]

I think people tend to think Skins who perform well are better in the football world then they are because they are skins.. I know im guilty of that.. but saying hes a number 1 because he carried a shiiiiity WR core on his back doesnt tell me he is a true #1 more then it tells me we had a pathetic WR core.

I'm just not sure what you're defining as a #1 WR. Dude caught 113 balls for 1300 yards in 2013. Brandon Marshall caught 100 that year. Dez Bryant caught 93 for 1200 yds that year. Julio Jones caught 104 balls last year. Those guys aren't #1s?

If you're saying he's not the deep threat, home run hitter like DJax is, I'd agree. But I'd define a #1 WR as a go-to, get open, catch the most balls on the team guy.

That guy is a baller. They need RGIII to be able to look at more than one receiver this year, and his numbers will pick right back up.

[riggofan]

You guys are nuts wanting to get rid of Garcon. Our WR corps are razor thin as it is. If we do that, then we better be looking for a WR in the 1st or second round.

I'm with you man. DJax is not the most durable guy out there, and Andre Roberts was a disappointment.

Chester should have been released last year. I don't understand why he is still tying up a roster spot at this point. He was one of if not the worst OG in the NFL last season.

He's only tying up a roster spot if there is somebody better to take. He's not really keeping us from signing anybody or anything at this point. If we need the money or find a better guard, they can release him anytime. Until then, there's nothing wrong with keeping him until we see if somebody can beat him out.

[yupchagee]

^ well put right there Prowl!!

Id hope we can restructure Garçon, but maybe we trade away the cap hit for a position of need. Even with Hanktime gone we still have good depth in Tana Grant and Roberts.. Garçon was kind of a disappointed last year but hes good.. not #1 good, but good.. seems like we have a lot of #2/3s tho...

If we cut Garcon, I think we eat a lot of dead cap. I hate doing that. Remember, you cant replace somebody with a nobody.

[EA7649]

^ well put right there Prowl!!

Id hope we can restructure Garçon, but maybe we trade away the cap hit for a position of need. Even with Hanktime gone we still have good depth in Tana Grant and Roberts.. Garçon was kind of a disappointed last year but hes good.. not #1 good, but good.. seems like we have a lot of #2/3s tho...

If we cut Garcon, I think we eat a lot of dead cap. I hate doing that. Remember, you cant replace somebody with a nobody.

I hope Garcon stays! He is a very important offensive player!

[Prowl33]

He isnt worth 10 million through, but cutting him we lose around 4.6million. Just think that 5mill in cap space could be used to help sign us a guard or center, we can draft a #2 receiver in the 4th round or pick one like Bowe up on a 1 year cheap prove it deal to get us by another year. QB protection is more important than Garcon is to us.

I like him too, but we gotta be smart.

[emoses14]

So now with Culliver we sit at no cap space left... means we may see some cuts coming soon. Think we need what, 4-5mill for draft, and we could still use atleast 1 FA O lineman and 1 safety to really be comfortable

Per John Keim this morning:

Remaining money

The Redskins have approximately $12 million to $17 million left in cap room based on various sites, including ESPN Stats & Information ($17 million). This number can be fluid.

[EA7649]

Interested in Michael Crabtree http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantas ... l-crabtree

Wonder if that means anything with Garcon? How much cap room are they going to be able to play with?

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

I think people tend to think Skins who perform well are better in the football world then they are because they are skins.. I know im guilty of that.. but saying hes a number 1 because he carried a shiiiiity WR core on his back doesnt tell me he is a true #1 more then it tells me we had a pathetic WR core.

I'm just not sure what you're defining as a #1 WR. Dude caught 113 balls for 1300 yards in 2013. Brandon Marshall caught 100 that year. Dez Bryant caught 93 for 1200 yds that year. Julio Jones caught 104 balls last year. Those guys aren't #1s?

If you're saying he's not the deep threat, home run hitter like DJax is, I'd agree. But I'd define a #1 WR as a go-to, get open, catch the most balls on the team guy.

That guy is a baller. They need RGIII to be able to look at more than one receiver this year, and his numbers will pick right back up.

Hes a solid #2 for sure..
Is this news to anyone? Has anyone EVER pegged him as a true #1? Being 1 on the depth chart isn't what im talking about.. nor am I talking about being the most targeted on the team. Big whoop. He lacks the size to be a #1, and while his hands are damn good they arent Megatron throw it up and ill get it good.

For example- what does he bring to the table over Crabtree? I see both as too notch twos w Crab having the physical attributes to possibly be a low end 1..

I know how WE see Garçon, but as far as the rest of the football fans id hardly say he is looked at as a #1 by most other fans; on FF draft day?? riggghht?

[Prowl33]

Updated the numbers. We have 11.73 million left. Should get us one of the safeties we have been looking at, maybe 2.

Also havent been seeing any rumors of o linemen being looked at... makes me think Scot has something planned in the draft... likely a couple linemen he likes a lot.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

^we DID sign a cple of big Oline guys before FA fwiw.. may not be the best available, but the best available got paid to stay home anyhow.

As bad as we were I dont know that its impossible for any of our back ups and /or signees to change the lineup as is.. id definitely feel better with a signing before the draft but we shall see.

[riggofan]

For example- what does he bring to the table over Crabtree? I see both as too notch twos w Crab having the physical attributes to possibly be a low end 1..

Uh in Crabtree's best year as a pro he caught 85 balls for 1100 yards. So he is a "low end #1" but Garcon catches 113 for 1300 yards and he is only a really good #2? Why?

From what you've written it seems like you're defining a #1 WR as a tall, Dez Bryant type of receiver.

[yupchagee]

For example- what does he bring to the table over Crabtree? I see both as too notch twos w Crab having the physical attributes to possibly be a low end 1..

Uh in Crabtree's best year as a pro he caught 85 balls for 1100 yards. So he is a "low end #1" but Garcon catches 113 for 1300 yards and he is only a really good #2? Why?

From what you've written it seems like you're defining a #1 WR as a tall, Dez Bryant type of receiver.

+1 Too much fixation on height, not enough on production.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

My fixation IS more on build (big+strong+fast+routes+hands=1), sure.. although Fitz isnt of the same mold. Neither is Beckham as much. Being tall helps- Nelson isnt really the same build as Megstron tho. A Number one imo is some one who goes up and gets it if you throw in his vicinity. Who fights off defenders and has speed to take it all the way. The whole package. Garçon has good hands- not the best. Not overy strong- can get jammed from time to time. Goes down easier then some, not super speedy. He des posses open field shiftyness and has good moves to go w his solid rout tree.

Im not even close to the only poster HERE on this board who considers him a high end 2.. but what ever. Maybe he's a 1 in more peoples eyes then I think.

***That stat line really shows that Garçon was just gettig more balls his way... and that Crabs actually had a higher YPC by nearly 3 yards!! Interesting you never post TDs.. whatd he have last year? 2?

[riggofan]

Im not even close to the only poster HERE on this board who considers him a high end 2.. but what ever. Maybe he's a 1 in more peoples eyes then I think.

Well we probably got sidetracked in this discussion either way. I don't really care if he's a low end #1 or a high end #2. Not really sure why that is important. I was responding to your original comments where you said: "Last year he was lackadaisical, and honestly a non threat.Sure the TD vs the Titans was fun- but moreso a horrid play by the defender. I havent seen #1 talent from him". That's just demonstrably bull****.

I know he had a drop off last year, but its ridiculous to blame him for that. Obviously we brought in DeSean so his numbers were going to drop. Top it off with our ridiculous qb carousel and RGIII being unable to look for more than one WR at a time. I don't see much reason to believe the issue was Garcon being a non threat.

***That stat line really shows that Garçon was just gettig more balls his way... and that Crabs actually had a higher YPC by nearly 3 yards!! Interesting you never post TDs.. whatd he have last year? 2?

Honestly I didn't even look at TDs, because I didn't think it was as important as the number of targets/catches - especially with this team. We suck in the red zone and we only had 18 receiving TDs all year. DJax only had six TDs last year. Garcon had three last year. Crabtree had four TDs last year.

Anyway, I'll stand by my original point which was: "I think some folks are vastly underestimating Garcon. Not #1 good? That guy pretty much single-handedly carried our WR corps before DJax got here. Never would have made that playoff run in 2012 without him. " I don't think you've written anything that would change my mind about that opinion.