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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2386 ... s-reaction

Niles Paul stepped up in a big way for Washington in 2014, having his most productive campaign as a professional. More than a few teams took notice, but Washington decided he was too important to lose and re-signed him this offseason.


Mike Garafolo of Fox Sports first reported the contract, and provided details of the deal:
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Washington keeps Niles Paul with a three-year deal
With a flurry of deals starting to happen today, Washington’s getting in on the act.

PFT has confirmed that tight end Niles Paul is staying in the nation’s capital. It’s a three-year deal with a maximum value of just under $10 million.

Paul didn’t do much of anything his first three seasons, but emerged with 39 catches for 507 yards and a touchdown last year, and could have a bigger role moving forward.

The former wide receiver is a good option anyway, as Jordan Reed hasn’t proven himself the most durable of tight ends.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... year-deal/

Like? Ok tight end, but one of our better special teams guys.
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That was a smart move and a good deal. Nice insurance policy for Reed because we all know that Reed will miss some playing time.
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Ummm... I think you mean re-signs... LOL
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He's resigned from the team?
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riggofan wrote:He's resigned from the team?

... and, so it goes... LOL
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riggofan wrote:He's resigned from the team?

... and, so it goes... LOL


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Good signing, I think. I'm assuming that "up to $10 million" means something closer to a $4-5 million deal if he doesn't play that third season.
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riggofan wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
riggofan wrote:He's resigned from the team?

... and, so it goes... LOL


hah. Sorry fellas. Had to be that guy!

When I first read it, I actually thought he had resigned. Then I quickly realized he must have meant "re-signs."
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Come on guys. We all know that I can't spell.
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Niles Paul - TE - Redskins

The Redskins aren't expecting TE Niles Paul (ankle) to return until training camp.

He missed all of last season after breaking his ankle in the Redskins' preseason opener. Paul's original goal was to be ready in time for OTAs but he needs more time to regain the weight he lost during his recovery. He's a distant second to Jordan Reed on Washington's tight end depth chart.

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I was reading this morning that Gruden sees Paul playing some fullback this season as well as TE. That would be an interesting move if they can pull it off.
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riggofan wrote:I was reading this morning that Gruden sees Paul playing some fullback this season as well as TE. That would be an interesting move if they can pull it off.



More interesting is why they didn't use one of the best fb's in the game when we had him (Darrell Young). But now they want to use Paul at the position sparingly? Shame!
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mastdark81 wrote:
riggofan wrote:I was reading this morning that Gruden sees Paul playing some fullback this season as well as TE. That would be an interesting move if they can pull it off.



More interesting is why they didn't use one of the best fb's in the game when we had him (Darrell Young). But now they want to use Paul at the position sparingly? Shame!


I don't know. 1) If your offense doesn't make heavy use of the fullback position, isn't it better if you can fill the role with one roster spot than with two? and 2) I'm pretty sure "One of the best FBs in the game" is still unsigned since being released in DC.

I like Darrel Young too, but the Redskins aren't exactly crazy for not using the fullback much.

"Ten teams — the Arizona Cardinals, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Chicago Bears, the Denver Broncos, the San Diego Chargers, the Miami Dolphins, the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Indianapolis Colts, the St. Louis Rams and the Philadelphia Eagles — do not have a fullback listed on their roster.

For years, the NFL has been shifting toward a pass-dominant league. According to Football Outsiders, teams operated out of the shotgun formation on 61 percent of snaps in 2014, compared to just 20 percent in 2006. Even when quarterbacks are under center, fullbacks are seeing less playing time.

Teams like the Bengals or Colts, which don’t carry a fullback, will line up a tight end as an H-back, slightly offset behind the tackle’s hip, or they’ll motion into the backfield when they feel the need to have a lead blocker. Ryan Hewitt, a second-year tight end from Stanford, is listed on the Bengals’ roster as an H-back. The Bears have a fullback listed on the depth chart, but it’s tight end Zach Miller.

Last season, no team had a fullback on the field for more than half of their offensive snaps. The San Francisco 49ers used one the most, with Bruce Miller on the field 43.6 percent of the time. In 2013, the Carolina Panthers used Mike Tolbert on a league-high 58.2 percent of their snaps. The numbers have continued to decrease."
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riggofan wrote:
mastdark81 wrote:
riggofan wrote:I was reading this morning that Gruden sees Paul playing some fullback this season as well as TE. That would be an interesting move if they can pull it off.



More interesting is why they didn't use one of the best fb's in the game when we had him (Darrell Young). But now they want to use Paul at the position sparingly? Shame!


I don't know. 1) If your offense doesn't make heavy use of the fullback position, isn't it better if you can fill the role with one roster spot than with two? and 2) I'm pretty sure "One of the best FBs in the game" is still unsigned since being released in DC.

I like Darrel Young too, but the Redskins aren't exactly crazy for not using the fullback much.

"Ten teams — the Arizona Cardinals, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Chicago Bears, the Denver Broncos, the San Diego Chargers, the Miami Dolphins, the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Indianapolis Colts, the St. Louis Rams and the Philadelphia Eagles — do not have a fullback listed on their roster.

For years, the NFL has been shifting toward a pass-dominant league. According to Football Outsiders, teams operated out of the shotgun formation on 61 percent of snaps in 2014, compared to just 20 percent in 2006. Even when quarterbacks are under center, fullbacks are seeing less playing time.

Teams like the Bengals or Colts, which don’t carry a fullback, will line up a tight end as an H-back, slightly offset behind the tackle’s hip, or they’ll motion into the backfield when they feel the need to have a lead blocker. Ryan Hewitt, a second-year tight end from Stanford, is listed on the Bengals’ roster as an H-back. The Bears have a fullback listed on the depth chart, but it’s tight end Zach Miller.

Last season, no team had a fullback on the field for more than half of their offensive snaps. The San Francisco 49ers used one the most, with Bruce Miller on the field 43.6 percent of the time. In 2013, the Carolina Panthers used Mike Tolbert on a league-high 58.2 percent of their snaps. The numbers have continued to decrease."


Yeah I get it the fullback is dying for most teams. For Young, one of your best BLOCKING players on our team to get limited amounts of game time reps when you have a deficiency of blocking I think is idiotic by the coaching staff not to utilize him more. Would have been more efficient to cut him from the beginning if they wasn't going to use him. Coaches that favor a system instead of utilizing talent never amount to consistent winner in my opinion. Teams will wait to draft another Young and pay him 200k rather pay league minimum (700k?). I think that is the main reason why he isn't signed, not because he is not a solid player...#nflchurn

As far as the rest of the league, as an organization you really shouldn't care what other teams are doing. Should have your own vision. This league comes down to talent more than system. This year with chop blocking outlawed entirely it has truly moved to a passing league so yes I get it, just don't when you have a guy that can fit a role on your roster at that time.
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mastdark81 wrote:Yeah I get it the fullback is dying for most teams. For Young, one of your best BLOCKING players on our team to get limited amounts of game time reps when you have a deficiency of blocking I think is idiotic by the coaching staff not to utilize him more. Would have been more efficient to cut him from the beginning if they wasn't going to use him. Coaches that favor a system instead of utilizing talent never amount to consistent winner in my opinion. Teams will wait to draft another Young and pay him 200k rather pay league minimum (700k?). I think that is the main reason why he isn't signed, not because he is not a solid player...#nflchurn

As far as the rest of the league, as an organization you really shouldn't care what other teams are doing. Should have your own vision. This league comes down to talent more than system. This year with chop blocking outlawed entirely it has truly moved to a passing league so yes I get it, just don't when you have a guy that can fit a role on your roster at that time.


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I don't know man. Is Young even on a team, now? I like him but it seems like that fact kind of undercuts your argument. Apparently he's not the elite talent for whom any intelligent coach should scrap his system. Young was an undrafted free agent LB who found a niche as a FB and overachieved for many years in Washington. And please don't expect us to believe that $500k against the salary cap is the reason he hasn't signed anywhere. That's goofy.

He's still a really good special teams guy which I think is the main reason they brought him back last year. That might get him back with a team this summer.
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riggofan wrote:
mastdark81 wrote:Yeah I get it the fullback is dying for most teams. For Young, one of your best BLOCKING players on our team to get limited amounts of game time reps when you have a deficiency of blocking I think is idiotic by the coaching staff not to utilize him more. Would have been more efficient to cut him from the beginning if they wasn't going to use him. Coaches that favor a system instead of utilizing talent never amount to consistent winner in my opinion. Teams will wait to draft another Young and pay him 200k rather pay league minimum (700k?). I think that is the main reason why he isn't signed, not because he is not a solid player...#nflchurn

As far as the rest of the league, as an organization you really shouldn't care what other teams are doing. Should have your own vision. This league comes down to talent more than system. This year with chop blocking outlawed entirely it has truly moved to a passing league so yes I get it, just don't when you have a guy that can fit a role on your roster at that time.


Forgot about this conversation.

I don't know man. Is Young even on a team, now? I like him but it seems like that fact kind of undercuts your argument. Apparently he's not the elite talent for whom any intelligent coach should scrap his system. Young was an undrafted free agent LB who found a niche as a FB and overachieved for many years in Washington. And please don't expect us to believe that $500k against the salary cap is the reason he hasn't signed anywhere. That's goofy.

He's still a really good special teams guy which I think is the main reason they brought him back last year. That might get him back with a team this summer.


It really isn't an argument it is a fact. I don't think no one on this board can say that he wasn't our best blocker outside of offensive lineman on the team last year. Can you agree on that too? My point was he should have been used more instead of excluded b/c of the "system" or possible trend of the NFL because it hurt our blocking up front.

With that said, I wouldn't have signed him back either on this particular team b/c they simply don't use him. I think he will sign with a team once the draft ends. He probably have a few good years in him considering his age. Teams would rather go younger and yes at least $500k cheaper for a position that we both acknowledge isn't used as much in today's NFL.

I just found it ironic how they want to use the fullback now with Paul but didn't as much as they should when we had a true fullback that could block, thats all. Hail 2 the Redskins...hopefully we sign Norman today :-)
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mastdark81 wrote:I just found it ironic how they want to use the fullback now with Paul but didn't as much as they should when we had a true fullback that could block, thats all. Hail 2 the Redskins...hopefully we sign Norman today :-)


Gotcha. I hear what you're saying. Honestly though, I think if Paul hadn't been injured last year, Young would not have made the team. Paul can play some fullback when they need it, but they don't have to dedicate a roster spot to that position.
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