Redskins - Colts Postgame Thread

[SKINS#1]

The offense with Colt at QB scored enough pts to win even though Colt missed some plays he needs to make. Gruden made some bad calls, in fourth they had the ball with 2nd and 2 for a 1st down inside the 10 and did not run the ball. The defensive secondary was awful.

[welch]

Colts out-scored the Redskins in every quarter. Six sacks by Colts; one by Redskins. McCoy does not have a strong arm, but QB is not the weak spot on the Redskins.

[SkinsJock]

The offense with Colt at QB scored enough pts to win even though Colt missed some plays he needs to make. Gruden made some bad calls, in fourth they had the ball with 2nd and 2 for a 1st down inside the 10 and did not run the ball. The defensive secondary was awful.

Colt played OK - he certainly did not "play well enough to win" or be the QB that "finds a way to win" as some claimed he would

this was not on Colt ... but then again, there's no way that the result would have been different with Griffin

it's not the QB folks and it never has been ...

some of you guys are just blind to what's really happening here

[SKINS#1]

The offense with Colt at QB scored enough pts to win even though Colt missed some plays he needs to make. Gruden made some bad calls, in fourth they had the ball with 2nd and 2 for a 1st down inside the 10 and did not run the ball. The defensive secondary was awful.

Colt played OK - he certainly did not "play well enough to win" or be the QB that "finds a way to win" as some claimed he would

this was not on Colt ... but then again, there's no way that the result would have been different with Griffin

it's not the QB folks and it never has been ...

some of you guys are just blind to what's really happening here

SJ - The offense with Colt as QB DID score enough to win unless 27 pts is not enough. In most cases this IS enough to win. I don't know why you question this.

[hanburgerheel]

The offense should have put up at least 2 more TD's, but oh well.

The defense was atrocious, as usual. I really hope they boot Haslett ASAP. They need a better defense and a better O-line.

[grampi]

The offense should have put up at least 2 more TD's, but oh well.

The defense was atrocious, as usual. I really hope they boot Haslett ASAP. They need a better defense and a better O-line.

Yep, D looked like they weren't even on the field at times...

[SkinsJock]

Oh, I get it - even if we don't score more points than the other team, it's kind of OK because it's 'enough for the win'

that makes me feel better

I have no issue with what Colt did - I have an issue with those who were advocating that Colt gave us a better chance to win than RG3

it's just my obviously misguided opinion that with this O Line and defensive secondary, it does not matter if Tom Brady is the QB

we need a huge makeover and with the way these guys are coaching and playing I'm not sure how many are going to be here in 2015


IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO THE QB IS - this team is not playing good football - EVERYONE including the staff should be accountable

[grampi]

Oh, I get it - even if we don't score more points than the other team, it's kind of OK because it's 'enough for the win'

that makes me feel better

I have no issue with what Colt did - I have an issue with those who were advocating that Colt gave us a better chance to win than RG3

it's just my obviously misguided opinion that with this O Line and defensive secondary, it does not matter if Tom Brady is the QB

we need a huge makeover and with the way these guys are coaching and playing I'm not sure how many are going to be here in 2015


IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO THE QB IS - this team is not playing good football - EVERYONE including the staff should be accountable

At this point, arguing over which QB gives us the best chance to win is a moot point...obviously, as bad as this TEAM is, no QB is gonna make us a winner...

[mastdark81]

Colt McCoy and the offense was terrible and not prepared whenever the game counted against a C/C+ at best defense without Robert Mathis. It remind me of the Eagles game last year where the offense was terrible when it counted then RG3 ended up passing for 300+ yards when it didn't count.

Indianapolis went up 3 TD's then started playing soft zone coverages on the te's rbs and slot and then Colt McCoy began racking up yardage. He made a great play on that pass to Paulsen on his own but other than that played average at best because whenever the Redskins got close again to have the game within reach the offense was stymied again.

Not Colt's fault we lost. It was the strategy and preparation of coaches. Indianapolis' DB's were blanketing the wide receivers and seem to know their routes and who we would target on 3rd downs. Then I like the 4th down call to go for it but not the play. if its an inch you either qb sneak/give it to the fullback or rb not fake handoff when you need a few inches!!!

Extremely dissapointed at Pierre Garcon being owned by Vontae Davis. Davis is no slouch but really? I see why some people think he isn't a #1 receiver. Maybe just a bad game but he needs to step up and run better routes. Moss should be getting more playing time than Ryan Grant. Tired of seeing Reed at WR....I'd rather see a real WR at the position on 3rd down when we need 10+ yards smh! I can see him motioning in to the WR position in a run formation short yardage then throw it but not when you need a speed guy to shoot up the field.

Oline was our typical oline...not impressive but was expected to play better against a Colts D that lacks pass rush.

Secondary continue to have blown coverages. Haslett and Raheem Morris need to go back to high school basics and be like..."Amerson this is your man, Breeland this is your man the whole game" and stop playing short zone with the cb's because you can't count on the safeties. Then you need to have one safety playing Gregg Williams style deep to ensure even if they creep up and get stuck trying to stop the run they are so far back that it won't hurt them from the long pass.

[StorminMormon86]

Man our secondary was horrid in that game. At least the level of QB play was better from the last 2 weeks.

I think Gruden killed any momentum McCoy had coming off of that Dallas win, by going back to Griffin. That's probably a big reason why McCoy had a rocky start and needed to get into a rhythm before putting up some points. This game was similar to the Dallas game...started out slow, finally came around in the 2nd half.

[grampi]

I couldn't believe how many times our defense looked like it only had 5 or 6 guys on the field...I didn't think that was even possible...

[OldSchool]

McCoy threw for 3 TDs and almost 400 yards, he did more than enough to win much like Cousins this year against Philly. The loss is on the defense gave up 49 points and the ridiculous knucklehead(s) that decided to spend 3 first & 1 second on Megabust.

[grampi]

At least the level of QB play was better from the last 2 weeks.

Careful there, pointing out the truth in this forum will get you flamed...

[StorminMormon86]

I still hate that pass call on 4 & inches...what the hell was Gruden thinking?

[oj]

It looked to me the safeties were 'looked off' by Luck, they'd breakoff thier receiver and go after whomever Luck was staring at and freeling up the real receiver. Rookie mistakes, maybe Haz saw something in the films and things backfired - who knows, was it coaching or bad judgement? They'll never forget that kind of humiliation.
I though Colt played good after they freed him up, he was overcoached by Gruden early in the game. The touchdown drive at the end of the 2nd quarter made a statement to let this kid play his game, he can do it. Grudens playcalling was terrible, sending Morris offtackle twice on the three yard line? You kiddin me? And he didn't learn from that? We should have had 2 if not 3 additional touchdowns.
Colt played pretty good, again I think he was overshadowed early, he made some bad mistakes esp the 4th down play. I liked them going for it, you got to be aggressive, but it was Colts job to see the uncovered linebacker. The play took too long to develop, that is a bad coaching call. Colts' releases were pretty quick but still he had a decision problem and that is what caused some of the sacks - he dosn't have the experience to know that his receiver will break free and he has to pull the trigger NOW. But he has the potential and I think he'll get there in the next couple games.
He is a better quarterback, 341yds, 3TDs and I don't remember any interceptions/fumbles.

[markshark84]

I was unable to see the game this weekend so everything I said should be taken with a grain of salt. I really can't comment on how any player did in particular as I know that stats can be very misleading.

I read the articles on the game and this comment from Luck stood out: "We were confident that we could hit some chunk (plays), as we say," --- "I think that our tempo helped to get some drives together, but we came in thinking that we had a chance at some big ones.". I think that quote is very telling as to how other NFL teams view our DEF --- and where teams will focus their efforts in the future.

Also, McCoy's #s look impressive, but it doesn't seem that he was an added spark to the offense given his abismal 26.7 QBR. When you say a QB throws for roughly 400 yards, 3 TDs, and not INTs, you'd think his QBR was somewhere in the 70s at a minimum. Then you see he had 4 fumbles and was sacked 6 times. That is pretty gross. And the fact we couldn't capitalize on 3 TOs is pretty bad.

I have always maintained that if an offense scores a raw 23 points, they have done their job to win. That "23 points", however, is not as black and white as it seems. In this case, the offense did score 27, but they had 4 drives starting in INDY territory and 1 inside their 20 yard line. So at the very least, the offense scored a raw 24 points. Then you also have to take into account points given away. INDY scored 7 off TOs, but that is hard to say was 100% on the offense in that INDY got the ball in their own territory. I'd say the only arguable points our OFF scored that could be considered as "garbage" was the field goal in the 4th --- but even there it was a 2 score game with 12 mins to go (so I wouldn't discout the point total for garbage points). All in all, it is pretty difficult to say the OFF did enought to "win". They scored a raw 24 points, which is over the 23 average, BUT INDY scored 7 off an OFF TO and we had 4 drives starting in INDY terrirtory that we only came away with 6 points from. If you look at it as a whole, 27 points wasn't that large an amount given the circumstances and a portion (albeit small one) of the 49 points was attributable to an OFF TO.

[Deadskins]

It looked to me the safeties were 'looked off' by Luck, they'd breakoff thier receiver and go after whomever Luck was staring at and freeling up the real receiver. Rookie mistakes, maybe Haz saw something in the films and things backfired - who knows, was it coaching or bad judgement? They'll never forget that kind of humiliation.
I though Colt played good after they freed him up, he was overcoached by Gruden early in the game. The touchdown drive at the end of the 2nd quarter made a statement to let this kid play his game, he can do it. Grudens playcalling was terrible, sending Morris offtackle twice on the three yard line? You kiddin me? And he didn't learn from that? We should have had 2 if not 3 additional touchdowns.
Colt played pretty good, again I think he was overshadowed early, he made some bad mistakes esp the 4th down play. I liked them going for it, you got to be aggressive, but it was Colts job to see the uncovered linebacker. The play took too long to develop, that is a bad coaching call. Colts' releases were pretty quick but still he had a decision problem and that is what caused some of the sacks - he dosn't have the experience to know that his receiver will break free and he has to pull the trigger NOW. But he has the potential and I think he'll get there in the next couple games.
He is a better quarterback, 341yds, 3TDs and I don't remember any interceptions/fumbles.

4th and inches - sack/fumble TD return?

[riggofan]

I still hate that pass call on 4 & inches...what the hell was Gruden thinking?

Probably that his team is 3-9. Indy was stacked up against the run. Why not roll the dice?

[riggofan]

The offense with Colt at QB scored enough pts to win even though Colt missed some plays he needs to make. Gruden made some bad calls, in fourth they had the ball with 2nd and 2 for a 1st down inside the 10 and did not run the ball. The defensive secondary was awful.

Colt played OK - he certainly did not "play well enough to win" or be the QB that "finds a way to win" as some claimed he would

Give me a break. 390 yards passing and 3 TDs wasn't well enough to win???

"Since the start of last season, 14 other quarterbacks have had at least 390 yards and three touchdown passes with no interceptions on a. They went 13-1 in those games."

Yeah that is well enough to win.

I thought Colt was OK. His first quarter was rough, but he bounced back from it much like he did in the Cowboys game. Missed a couple passes, especially in the red zone that should have been scores.

[StorminMormon86]

I still hate that pass call on 4 & inches...what the hell was Gruden thinking?

Probably that his team is 3-9. Indy was stacked up against the run. Why not roll the dice?

I liked going for it, but the play action call was just mind boggling.

[riggofan]

I still hate that pass call on 4 & inches...what the hell was Gruden thinking?

Probably that his team is 3-9. Indy was stacked up against the run. Why not roll the dice?

I liked going for it, but the play action call was just mind boggling.

I think the way I heard him explain it was that they lined up to run it, then Indy took the timeout. They saw they had the box stacked and like DJax lined up 1v1, so they took the shot. Its only mind boggling because the protection completely failed (Logan Paulsen). If they'd hit Desean 1v1 for a touchdown on 4th and inches we'd be saying, "GENIUS!!!!"

Anyway, it was just one badly executed play in a day full of them IMO.

[oj]

It looked to me the safeties were 'looked off' by Luck, they'd breakoff thier receiver and go after whomever Luck was staring at and freeling up the real receiver. Rookie mistakes, maybe Haz saw something in the films and things backfired - who knows, was it coaching or bad judgement? They'll never forget that kind of humiliation.
I though Colt played good after they freed him up, he was overcoached by Gruden early in the game. The touchdown drive at the end of the 2nd quarter made a statement to let this kid play his game, he can do it. Grudens playcalling was terrible, sending Morris offtackle twice on the three yard line? You kiddin me? And he didn't learn from that? We should have had 2 if not 3 additional touchdowns.
Colt played pretty good, again I think he was overshadowed early, he made some bad mistakes esp the 4th down play. I liked them going for it, you got to be aggressive, but it was Colts job to see the uncovered linebacker. The play took too long to develop, that is a bad coaching call. Colts' releases were pretty quick but still he had a decision problem and that is what caused some of the sacks - he dosn't have the experience to know that his receiver will break free and he has to pull the trigger NOW. But he has the potential and I think he'll get there in the next couple games.
He is a better quarterback, 341yds, 3TDs and I don't remember any interceptions/fumbles.

4th and inches - sack/fumble TD return?

Yes, thats right. I repressed the actual outcome of that play,

[SkinsJock]

I played golf and taped the game - I could not believe the first few minutes and thought OMG we could win this game

then ... I was so bummed that we couldn't take advantage ... oh well