Redskins - 49ers postgame thread

[OldSchool]

Griffin is absolutely clueless in an NFL game as lost as a fawn on the Beltway. Five sacks and about a 100 yards doesn't get it done in the NFL. Time to give the fans something worth watching, give us Colt McCoy.

[EA7649]

What's the point at 3-8? I don't know if he will be back next season, because his contract would be worth 16 mil. But still...

[EA7649]

Okay I was wrong...with the years. 3 mil next season and itd be a lot more in 2016. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-griffin/

[hanburgerheel]

i feel sure that McCoy could deliver at LEAST as well or as good as Griffin's performances. At least McCoy was a starter in a game that we won! I wish they would have let him play against MN. We don't win many games with #10.

[StorminMormon86]

It's only a matter of time.

[OldSchool]

Griffin's failure in the NFL should be a cautionary tale for the entire league. First, never ever spend 4 high picks for 1 guy no matter how promising he looks or how much you wish to transform your franchise, think about the Redskins and Griffin and resist the impulse. Second, when drafting a quarterback never be seduced by a strong arm and fleet feet anb assume the prospect can be taught to read offenses and go through progressions. Look for evidence of mental capacity first and then for evidence that the arm is strong enough, remember the Redskins who assumed Griffin who picked up a political science degree early the guy was smart enough to learn the mental part of the NFL.

[StorminMormon86]

How many more games do we have to suffer before Gruden finally pulls the trigger on this? This is getting to be downright laughable watching our offense.

[Irn-Bru]

It's only a matter of time.

Yeah, I agree. I doubt we finish the year with Griffin at quarterback. I'd actually be mildly surprised if he plays next week.

[StorminMormon86]

It's only a matter of time.

Yeah, I agree. I doubt we finish the year with Griffin at quarterback. I'd actually be mildly surprised if he plays next week.

At the end of Gruden's presser yesterday, a lady reporter went over to him (while he was away from the mic) and asked him a question. She claims to have asked if Griffin would still be the starter going into next Sunday and Gruden said he was.

[OldSchool]

First, I think the overall majority of fans would like to see McCoy play and feel like the team is trying to win the game not rescue a failed draft gamble. Hopefully, Gruden sits Griffin for the rest of the year.

Second, I don't want the Skins to draft a QB in 2015, they need to address other needs first and give McCoy or Cousins the football next year.

[StorminMormon86]

What about the other guys on the roster? Garcon pretty much called Griffin out yesterday after the game. A reporter asked him what would cure the offensive woes and he said something to the effect of, "throw to the receivers, there were plenty of chances". The locker room (especially the offensive guys) have got to be tired with him. It's time for Gruden to step up and not lose the locker room. THAT would set our team back big time.

[SkinsJock]

I kind of hope that Gruden lets Colt & Kirk play and tells Robert, Kirk and Colt to get ready for a QB competition

next season, my money's on Robert - he was not at all sharp but this kid will find a way to get better

IMO Robert's still the starting QB here simply because Sean & Jay think he's the better option of the 3

[StorminMormon86]

IMO Robert's still the starting QB here simply because Sean & Jay think he's the better option of the 3

This is clearly false.

Gruden is starting him solely to highlight how horrible he is at running his offense so when he does bench him it won't be some huge crapstorm in the organization.

[SkinsJock]

IMO Robert's still the starting QB here simply because Sean & Jay think he's the better option of the 3

This is clearly false. Gruden is starting him solely to highlight how horrible he is at running his offense so when he does bench him it won't be some huge crapstorm in the organization.

I disagree - Gruden should bench Griffin & tell him to him get ready to play next season - but he knows his QBs better than we do

[markshark84]

IMO Robert's still the starting QB here simply because Sean & Jay think he's the better option of the 3

This is clearly false.

Gruden is starting him solely to highlight how horrible he is at running his offense so when he does bench him it won't be some huge crapstorm in the organization.

I tend to agree with this --- with the addition of the fact RGIII is Danny boy's guy and Gruden wants to make it clear to Danny that RGIII is not the QB of the future. If RGIII continues to stink it up over the next couple of weeks Danny's boy will have to concede.

A good deal of people on here (at least more than I would think should) oddly believe Danny doesn't get involved in football operations --- but he does. There is no question about it. This is Danny's team and in order to have a job a Redskins park, you have to get the Danny boy sign off to do anything of significance.

[StorminMormon86]

I disagree - Gruden should bench Griffin & tell him to him get ready to play next season - but he knows his QBs better than we do

The second he gets benched, he's done in DC.

[hanburgerheel]

I disagree - Gruden should bench Griffin & tell him to him get ready to play next season - but he knows his QBs better than we do

The second he gets benched, he's done in DC.

He was done in DC long before this ever happens. You could say he was done when he was benched LAST year! He was finished in DC when he tore his ACL and could no longer operate freely in that gimmick offense that was tailor-made for him by Kyle Shanahan. If Griffin has a Baylor/College-style run-option offense to operate, he will perform better... until he gets injured.

Griffin's stats compared to his back-ups reveal that he's not really any better than they are, except for Cousins' affinity for INT's. If Griffin is the BEST we have, then we don't have much.

[PAPDOG67]

Why wouldn't we go back to that offense then?? Why are we trying to fit a square peg into a round hole? It worked so well year 1 and it sontinues to work to some extent up in Seattle.

[StorminMormon86]

Why wouldn't we go back to that offense then?? Why are we trying to fit a square peg into a round hole? It worked so well year 1 and it sontinues to work to some extent up in Seattle.

Because he doesn't have the speed or elusiveness that he once had.

[SkinsJock]

Why wouldn't we go back to that offense then?? Why are we trying to fit a square peg into a round hole? It worked so well year 1 and it sontinues to work to some extent up in Seattle.

Because he doesn't have the speed or elusiveness that he once had.

or, more likely, because Sean and Jay want a different offense

[riggofan]

Why wouldn't we go back to that offense then?? Why are we trying to fit a square peg into a round hole? It worked so well year 1 and it sontinues to work to some extent up in Seattle.

Because he doesn't have the speed or elusiveness that he once had.

or, more likely, because Sean and Jay want a different offense

And Griffin won't run that offense anymore.

[riggofan]

I kind of hope that Gruden lets Colt & Kirk play and tells Robert, Kirk and Colt to get ready for a QB competition

next season, my money's on Robert - he was not at all sharp but this kid will find a way to get better

IMO Robert's still the starting QB here simply because Sean & Jay think he's the better option of the 3

I think you'd better buckle up, man. The wheels are coming off this wagon quickly.

[HogHeaven1983]

Griffin's failure in the NFL should be a cautionary tale for the entire league. First, never ever spend 4 high picks for 1 guy no matter how promising he looks or how much you wish to transform your franchise, think about the Redskins and Griffin and resist the impulse. Second, when drafting a quarterback never be seduced by a strong arm and fleet feet anb assume the prospect can be taught to read offenses and go through progressions. Look for evidence of mental capacity first and then for evidence that the arm is strong enough, remember the Redskins who assumed Griffin who picked up a political science degree early the guy was smart enough to learn the mental part of the NFL.

BINGO ... a $5 arm and a 10 cent head

[riggofan]

Griffin's failure in the NFL should be a cautionary tale for the entire league. First, never ever spend 4 high picks for 1 guy no matter how promising he looks or how much you wish to transform your franchise, think about the Redskins and Griffin and resist the impulse. Second, when drafting a quarterback never be seduced by a strong arm and fleet feet anb assume the prospect can be taught to read offenses and go through progressions. Look for evidence of mental capacity first and then for evidence that the arm is strong enough, remember the Redskins who assumed Griffin who picked up a political science degree early the guy was smart enough to learn the mental part of the NFL.

BINGO ... a $5 arm and a 10 cent head

So if you could go back to 2012 and trade three first round picks for Andrew Luck, you wouldn't do it? Yeah right.

Totally disagree with the comments about a "10 cent head" too. Very unfair and disrespectful. I'm really disappointed with what's going on with Griffin this year, but I don't have any questions about his intelligence. I also think he's got a lot of heart and really wants to deliver for this team. He laid it all on the line and put himself out there to give us a great year in 2012.

[Kilmer72]

I know right? It was a gamble and it can still pay off. I would have done the same thing.

It is sort of funny that some people on this board were with the move and now say how stupid it was. I say ride things out as long as the coach says so.