The case for Colt McCoy

[paul4ut]

When will the Redskin coaches (and management) realize that Colt McCoy just might be their franchise quarterback? Sure, McCoy is not the physical stature common among today's 6-5 pro-set quarterbacks, but neither was the diminutive Doug Flutie. Neither was Roger Staubach. Neither were Fran Tarkenton, Tommy Kramer, or Warren Moon for that matter. Hey, 6-2 and 210 ain't bad. Here's the deal with Colt. OK, I know he was the Heisman runner-up and 45-8 in 53 career starts at Texas. I know he was Texas' only two-time All-America QB. You can also tell me he won the Maxwell Award, the Davey O'Brien Award and the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award which pretty much puts him at the top of the heap among other Div. I quarterback. Oh, and he is the "only" college quarterback to ever win 10 or more games in four consecutive seasons. What else? hmmm Completing 1,157 of 1,645 passes for 13,253 yards at Texas gave him a 70.3% pass completion rating. I gotta say also, he is a two-time Walter Camp Football Foundation Player of the Year. Wow. So, you take all of this and you make this guy the 3rd-string QB, warming the bench game after game? Isn't beating the Cowboys on their billion-dollar field in Dallas worthy of something? One thing Colt does very well...he wins games. He wins games big. He wins games consistently. Please, Washington. The time has come to think seriously about starting Colt McCoy.

[fabe]

I don't think Colt McCoy is any team's franchise QB. He's a good back-up, but nothing more. Isn't he still the 3rd string on the roster?

[paul4ut]

Well, my friend, I don't know how to say it any better than I did. Unfortunately, your mindset is a popular one. Perhaps, if #1 and #2 QBs were benched reality would sink in. McCoy is a proven winner, he's durable and deadly accurate. He will move the yardsticks and light up the scoreboard. RG3 is a great guy, but the Skins will NEVER go anywhere until McCoy is the starter. By the way, the cold manner McCoy was treated by his own coach in the post game infield wrap up after he saddled Dallas with a loss was horrible.

If RG3 can somehow consistently win as the Skins' starting QB and avoid injury, then that would be great. Unfortunately, we've seen enough to know that will never happen. Not now...not ever. McCoy will power and direct the Redskins to a Championship because he Has proven he can.

[hanburgerheel]

McCoy is proven in the NCAA/College level. I don't think he's an absolute proven, perennial winner in the NFL... yet.

[Countertrey]

I'm thinking... "Colt McCoy's agent is really wasting his time talking to us... We are merely a bunch of amateurs, and have no "ACTUAL" say in coaching decisions".

Beyond that, welcome to the board.

[Countertrey]

If Colt wants to start, it's up to him to make it impossible to keep him on the bench...

[paul4ut]

Unfortunately, it is the coach's decision about who to start, and not Colt's. Colt had already shown his metal. I think the Coach is blinded by what "was" 4.2 40 speed and showtime glitz here and there. McCoy will never be Mr Showtime, just a winner. That's all I want...wins. You can have the glamour. In the meantime, Washington is blowing an opportunity.

[Kilmer72]

Unfortunately, it is the coach's decision about who to start, and not Colt's. Colt had already shown his metal. I think the Coach is blinded by what "was" 4.2 40 speed and showtime glitz here and there. McCoy will never be Mr Showtime, just a winner. That's all I want...wins. You can have the glamour. In the meantime, Washington is blowing an opportunity.

I am fairly certain that being a QB himself he would know what he has in Colt, or at least a really good idea.

[OldSchool]

I don't know what McCoy has got he hasn't played much but I'd like to see him start the rest of the year. Griffin is a bothersome bust and a waste of repetitions the Skins should cut him tomorrow and clear the air in Ashburn.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

McCoy didnt look all that good if you watched. He had me cussig as much as the starter and the back-up. . He couldnt hack it in lowly Cleveland, got replaced by an aged rook in Weeden- who btw is gsrbage too.
Kirk looked good in his first game and a half of relief- then reality sunk in.

While we were turnt up vs our most hated rival, we arent any better then below average. McCoy isnt the answer imho.. and at this point we beed to buold the trenches, improve the secondary- then see where we are and what we have at qb. Drafting another high profile qb just to "ruin" him, isn't going to be any better then the qb carousel before griff.

[fabe]

Well, my friend, I don't know how to say it any better than I did. Unfortunately, your mindset is a popular one. Perhaps, if #1 and #2 QBs were benched reality would sink in. McCoy is a proven winner, he's durable and deadly accurate. He will move the yardsticks and light up the scoreboard. RG3 is a great guy, but the Skins will NEVER go anywhere until McCoy is the starter. By the way, the cold manner McCoy was treated by his own coach in the post game infield wrap up after he saddled Dallas with a loss was horrible.

If RG3 can somehow consistently win as the Skins' starting QB and avoid injury, then that would be great. Unfortunately, we've seen enough to know that will never happen. Not now...not ever. McCoy will power and direct the Redskins to a Championship because he Has proven he can.

We are talking about Colt McCoy, right? The guy who is 7-15 as a starter?

[paul4ut]

RG3 is 3-7 as a starter this year.

[DarthMonk]

McCoy didnt look all that good if you watched.

Addressing this only:

25 of 30 for 299 w 1 INT.

7 rushes for 16 yards and a TD.

I, for one, was impressed that night. I saw poise, good decision-making, and accuracy. I remember one time when he left the pocket he actually took a peek backwards to see where a guy was that was trying to chase him down. He truly led us that night. He looked fantastic.

[SkinsJock]

RG3 is 3-7 as a starter this year.

Wrong ...

btw - welcome to the site

[StorminMormon86]

RG3 is 3-7 as a starter this year.

Wrong ...

btw - welcome to the site

Ok, 0-3.

[StorminMormon86]

McCoy didnt look all that good if you watched.

Addressing this only:

25 of 30 for 299 w 1 INT.

7 rushes for 16 yards and a TD.

I, for one, was impressed that night. I saw poise, good decision-making, and accuracy. I remember one time when he left the pocket he actually took a peek backwards to see where a guy was that was trying to chase him down. He truly led us that night. He looked fantastic.

+1

I cannot fathom how people continue to insist McCoy looked like crap against Dallas. He friggin' lead us to a victory on the road, on primetime, in over time, against our most hated division rival.

I truly believe that Gruden wants to play McCoy but at the same time wants to highlight whether or not Griffin is the franchise.

[paul4ut]

From 2013 to 2014, RGIII has won 3 games and and lost 13. He has lost 77% of the games he's started over a two-year period, and that's with a year that has pretty much kept him out most games with injuries. At least McCoy shows promise and leadership as a starter. We need to give him a chance. What do we have to lose? Another loss perhaps?

[PulpExposure]

When will the Redskin coaches (and management) realize that Colt McCoy just might be their franchise quarterback? Sure, McCoy is not the physical stature common among today's 6-5 pro-set quarterbacks, but neither was the diminutive Doug Flutie. Neither was Roger Staubach. Neither were Fran Tarkenton, Tommy Kramer, or Warren Moon for that matter. Hey, 6-2 and 210 ain't bad. Here's the deal with Colt. OK, I know he was the Heisman runner-up and 45-8 in 53 career starts at Texas. I know he was Texas' only two-time All-America QB. You can also tell me he won the Maxwell Award, the Davey O'Brien Award and the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award which pretty much puts him at the top of the heap among other Div. I quarterback. Oh, and he is the "only" college quarterback to ever win 10 or more games in four consecutive seasons. What else? hmmm Completing 1,157 of 1,645 passes for 13,253 yards at Texas gave him a 70.3% pass completion rating. I gotta say also, he is a two-time Walter Camp Football Foundation Player of the Year. Wow. So, you take all of this and you make this guy the 3rd-string QB, warming the bench game after game? Isn't beating the Cowboys on their billion-dollar field in Dallas worthy of something? One thing Colt does very well...he wins games. He wins games big. He wins games consistently. Please, Washington. The time has come to think seriously about starting Colt McCoy.

That's an impressive college career! Sort of like Danny Wuerrfel or Tim Tebow!

[paul4ut]

Throughout this process, I have looked for reasons why we continue to start Robert Griffin. It's gotta be about money...the money we have invested in him (four-year $21.1 million contract with a $13.8 million signing bonus). Perhaps if he had to work a little harder (barring injury) before he could earn that kind of crazy money, the results would be different. I'm beginning to think he could go 0-16 and still be our starting QB. Amazing. It has to be about the money invested, because it sure isn't about his performance on the field, and ability to win games. I know we have other issues besides Quarterback, but McCoy showed it could be done with the player personnel we have in place.

[riggofan]

McCoy didnt look all that good if you watched.

Addressing this only:

25 of 30 for 299 w 1 INT.

7 rushes for 16 yards and a TD.

I, for one, was impressed that night. I saw poise, good decision-making, and accuracy. I remember one time when he left the pocket he actually took a peek backwards to see where a guy was that was trying to chase him down. He truly led us that night. He looked fantastic.

+1

I cannot fathom how people continue to insist McCoy looked like crap against Dallas. He friggin' lead us to a victory on the road, on primetime, in over time, against our most hated division rival.

I truly believe that Gruden wants to play McCoy but at the same time wants to highlight whether or not Griffin is the franchise.

I don't think Colt looked like crap against Dallas. But "He friggin' lead us to a victory on the road" doesn't really say much about how he actually played that game. This stuff drives me nuts. The TEAM winning or losing the game doesn't always mean the QB played well or didn't play well.

You guys are saying you were impressed by Colt that night, but I'm not sure you would have the same opinion if our defense hadn't played the game of their lives and we'd lost. This was Colt in the first half:

6 plays 22 yds FG
4 plays 20 yds Punt
2 plays -2 yds INT
4 plays 51 yds Punt
6 plays 31 yds Punt

Dallas fumbled TWICE in the first half and we manged to put up 3 points against a s**** Dallas defense.

I'm not trying to knock Colt btw just keep it in perspective. He was on fire in third quarter and clutch in OT to get the winning field goal. I'll admit I would be curious to see if he can continue play as well given a few more games.

[StorminMormon86]

But "He friggin' lead us to a victory on the road" doesn't really say much about how he actually played that game. This stuff drives me nuts.

We went to overtime and won the game against a first place team on the road. Largely in part to McCoy's turn around in play in the 2nd half. Yes the defense played lights out, but that's meaningless without the points from our offense.

[fabe]

From 2013 to 2014, RGIII has won 3 games and and lost 13. He has lost 77% of the games he's started over a two-year period, and that's with a year that has pretty much kept him out most games with injuries. At least McCoy shows promise and leadership as a starter. We need to give him a chance. What do we have to lose? Another loss perhaps?

In terms of W/L, we have nothing to lose. However, if you bench RG3 now, you're essentially telling everyone that we've given up on Griffin. All of those picks would be a waste, and so would acquiring Gruden.

[paul4ut]

Griffin may be a costly mistake, I don't know. As for "all of those picks," Colt has shown he can work with what we have.

[riggofan]

But "He friggin' lead us to a victory on the road" doesn't really say much about how he actually played that game. This stuff drives me nuts.

We went to overtime and won the game against a first place team on the road. Largely in part to McCoy's turn around in play in the 2nd half. Yes the defense played lights out, but that's meaningless without the points from our offense.

I'm not discounting Colt's role, but that is a gross misrepresentation of how that game went and what the defense did for him.

Colt threw for 299 yds 0 TDs and 1 INT v. Dallas
RGIII the next week threw for 250 yds 1 TD and 1 INT v. Minnesota

In Minnesota we GOT the points from the offense. We scored more than 3 points in the first half, and we were leading at half time. RGIII got no help at all from the defense. How many turnovers did they get for Colt vs. Dallas??? Three?

Again, not knocking Colt, but "he beat Dallas" isn't the reason to start him or not. I thought he was clutch when we needed him to be at the end of the game - which is not something you can say about RGIII.

[riggofan]

From 2013 to 2014, RGIII has won 3 games and and lost 13. He has lost 77% of the games he's started over a two-year period, and that's with a year that has pretty much kept him out most games with injuries. At least McCoy shows promise and leadership as a starter. We need to give him a chance. What do we have to lose? Another loss perhaps?

In terms of W/L, we have nothing to lose. However, if you bench RG3 now, you're essentially telling everyone that we've given up on Griffin. All of those picks would be a waste, and so would acquiring Gruden.

Why would acquiring Gruden be a waste? We didn't "acquire" Gruden. We needed a coach and we hired one.