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You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:00 pm
by EA7649
That's what DeSean Jackson had to say.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2270 ... -instagramWhether he personally believes it, I do. whether he is quoting Robert, probably that too.
Robert didn't play well (even when he had the chances too make throws), oline was awful giving him no time in the pocket, defense was bad.
2 things, first I've been a Robert fan. I feel that you can't say he is great because of his skills and rookie year and you can't say he is bad because of the play of his teammates.
The link has the discussion about the picture DeSean posted, media interpretation, Brian Mitchel giving a good video analysis on the team and Fred Smoot uttering the the same words over and over again
Thoughts?
Re: You can't do epic sh$t with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:01 pm
by StorminMormon86
He was absolutely addressing Griffin. Gruden admitted it in the presser today.
Re: You can't do epic sh$t with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:01 pm
by EA7649
My bad I didn't see there was a post about Mitchel speaking about the team. Feel free to discuss the rest I posted.
Re: You can't do epic sh$t with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:02 pm
by EA7649
StorminMormon86 wrote:He was absolutely addressing Griffin. Griffin admitted it in the presser today.
If that is the case do you think he is mocking Robert or still is on his side?
Re: You can't do epic sh$t with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:06 pm
by riggofan
StorminMormon86 wrote:He was absolutely addressing Griffin. Gruden admitted it in the presser today.
Link? Quote? Just curious. I haven't seen that anywhere.
Re: You can't do epic sh$t with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:10 pm
by StorminMormon86
EA7649 wrote:StorminMormon86 wrote:He was absolutely addressing Griffin. Griffin admitted it in the presser today.
If that is the case do you think he is mocking Robert or still is on his side?
Sorry I meant to say Gruden admitted it in the presser today.
Here's some excerpts:
"I think he [DJax] was upset a little bit about what came out with Robert. I think one of the headlines was 'Robert throws the team under the bus.' Robert, whatever he said, got twisted around a little bit, and I addressed it in the meeting room. It's our job in house as players and coaches make sure we say the right things and not give anybody the opportunity to twist your words. Otherwise it'll be he said/she said things and twitter wars and social media events that get out of control, and we've got to put a stop to it now.
Robert needs to understand he needs to worry about himself number 1 and not everybody else. It's his job to worry about his position, his footwork, his fundamentals, his reads, his progressions, his job at the quarterback position. It's MY job to worry about everybody else. Yes, everybody else needs to improve, there's no question about it, but it's not his place. His place is to talk about himself and he knows that. He just elaborated a little too much."
Honeymoon's over.
Re: You can't do epic sh$t with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:11 pm
by EA7649
Bssed off the tweets in that article what Dianna Marie Russini. Maybe DeSean won't be a RG3 supporter anymore, I think it was real talk from what he said, but Gruden was smart to say you wory about the qb position and I'll worry about everyone else. It must be tough for him bc all the pressure piles on Robert.
Re: You can't do epic sh$t with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:12 pm
by StorminMormon86
I'm pretty sure the WR core were the ones who didn't want to switch from McCoy to Griffin. DJAX is probably in that camp now, too.
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:20 pm
by riggofan
Thanks, yeah that makes some sense. Jackson's comment about "basic people" was a little hard to understand, wasn't entirely sure if he was talking about talent or character.
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:55 pm
by EA7649
riggofan wrote:Thanks, yeah that makes some sense. Jackson's comment about "basic people" was a little hard to understand, wasn't entirely sure if he was talking about talent or character.
At first I thought talent
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:17 am
by cowboykillerzRGiii
Huh.. Djax retweeted RGiii explaining himself and how people twisted his words. Another article suggests that Djax was supporting Rg and was calling outthe rest of the team who played like crap. Ala oline and ssafetys
Winning cures all... we need some medicine, and soon
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:00 am
by StorminMormon86
He supported him up until his press conference.
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:43 am
by riggofan
EA7649 wrote:riggofan wrote:Thanks, yeah that makes some sense. Jackson's comment about "basic people" was a little hard to understand, wasn't entirely sure if he was talking about talent or character.
At first I thought talent
That's what I thought too.
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:08 pm
by Irn-Bru
I agree that Jackson's post was cryptic, I'm guessing intentionally so. ("Basic people" as a term doesn't even make sense.) Obviously a passive aggressive jab. OK, get it out of your system, DeSean. Feel better?
It should be noted that Gruden really took a firm stance on this publicly and, from what we're hearing, privately with Robert and the team. Brian Mitchell had praise for Gruden, and frankly this whole episode appears to have subsided for the time being. Nice to see.
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:27 pm
by Deadskins
Irn-Bru wrote:I agree that Jackson's post was cryptic, I'm guessing intentionally so. ("Basic people" as a term doesn't even make sense.)
I'm thinking he meant "basic people" as non-skill position players. I took him to mean, The skill position players can't produce without the non-skill position people playing well.
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:56 pm
by riggofan
Deadskins wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:I agree that Jackson's post was cryptic, I'm guessing intentionally so. ("Basic people" as a term doesn't even make sense.)
I'm thinking he meant "basic people" as non-skill position players. I took him to mean, The skill position players can't produce without the non-skill position people playing well.
It makes sense if you know how the kids use it.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BasicUnsophisticated
Transparent Motives
Re: You can't do epic [stuff] with basic people
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:59 pm
by Irn-Bru
riggofan wrote:Deadskins wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:I agree that Jackson's post was cryptic, I'm guessing intentionally so. ("Basic people" as a term doesn't even make sense.)
I'm thinking he meant "basic people" as non-skill position players. I took him to mean, The skill position players can't produce without the non-skill position people playing well.
It makes sense if you know how the kids use it.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BasicUnsophisticated
Transparent Motives
Heh. Figures I wouldn't know it. Now get off my lawn!!!