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Posted: **Fri May 24, 2013 8:06 pm**

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/ballot/ ... s-ever-nfl

Who are the greatest coaches in NFL history? (PICK 20)
 
George Allen: 116-47-5 (.712), postseason 2-7 (.222), 0 championships
Bill Belichick: 187-101 (.649), postseason 18-8 (.692), 3 championships
Brian Billick: 80-64 (.556), postseason 5-3 (.625), 1 championship
Paul Brown: 213-104-9 (.672), postseason 9-8 (.529), 7 championships
Guy Chamberlin: 58-16-7 (.784), 4 championships
Jimmy Conzelman: 87-63-17 (.580), postseason 1-1, 2 championships
Don Coryell: 111-83-1 (.572), postseason 3-6 (.333), 0 championships
Tom Coughlin: 151-121 (.555), postseason 12-7 (.632), 2 championships
Bill Cowher: 149-90-1 (.623), postseason 12-9 (.571), 1 championship
Mike Ditka: 121-95 (.560), postseason 6-6 (.500), 1 championship
Tony Dungy: 139-69 (.668), postseason 9-10 (.474), 1 championship
Weeb Ewbank: 130-129-7 (.502), postseason 4-1 (.800), 3 championships
Jeff Fisher: 149-129 (.536), postseason 5-6 (.455), 0 championships
Ray Flaherty: 80-37-5 (.684), postseason 2-4 (.333), 2 championships
Tom Flores: 97-87 (.527), postseason 8-3 (.727), 2 championships
Joe Gibbs: 154-94 (.621), postseason 17-7 (.708), 3 championships
Sid Gillman: 122-99-7 (.552), postseason 1-5 (.167), 1 championship (AFL)
Bud Grant: 158-96-5 (.622), postseason 10-12 (.455), 0 championships
Dennis Green: 113-94 (.546), postseason 4-8 (.333), 0 championships
Jon Gruden: 95-81 (.540), postseason 5-4 (.556), 1 championship
George Halas: 318-148-31 (.682), postseason 6-3 (.667), 6 championships
John Harbaugh: 54-26 (.675), postseason 9-4 (.692), 1 championship
Mike Holmgren: 161-111 (.592), postseason 13-11 (.542), 1 championship
Jim Lee Howell: 53-27-4 (.663), postseason 2-2 (.500), 1 championship
Jimmy Johnson: 80-64 (.556), postseason 9-4 (.692), 2 championships
Chuck Knox: 186-147-1 (.559), postseason 7-11 (.389), 0 championships
Curly Lambeau: 226-132-22 (.631), postseason 3-2 (.600), 6 championships
Tom Landry: 250-162-6 (.607), postseason 20-16 (.556), 2 championships
Marv Levy: 143-112 (.561), postseason 11-8 (.579), 0 championships
Vince Lombardi: 96-34-6 (.738), postseason 9-1 (.900), 5 championships
John Madden: 103-32-7 (.763), postseason 6-4 (.600), 1 championship
Mike McCarthy: 74-38 (.661), postseason 6-4 (.600), 1 championship
Jim E. Mora: 125-106 (.541), postseason 0-6 (.000), 0 championships
Greasy Neale: 63-43-5 (.594), postseason 3-1 (.750), 2 championships
Chuck Noll: 193-148-1 (.566), postseason 16-8 (.667), 4 championships
Steve Owen: 151-100-17 (.602), postseason 2-8 (.200), 2 championships
Bill Parcells: 172-130-1 (.570), postseason 11-8 (.579), 2 championships
Buddy Parker: 104-75-9 (.581), postseason 3-1 (.750), 2 championships
Sean Payton: 62-34 (.646), postseason 5-3 (.625), 1 championships
Dan Reeves: 190-165-2 (.535), postseason 11-9 (.550), 0 championships
Andy Reid: 130-93-1 (.583), postseason 10-9 (.526), 0 championships
Marty Schottenheimer: 200-126-1 (.613), postseason 5-13 (.278), 0 championships
George Seifert: 114-62 (.648), postseason 10-5 (.667), 2 championships
Mike Shanahan: 167-125 (.572), postseason 8-6 (.571), 2 championships
Buck Shaw: 90-55-5 (.621), postseason 2-1 (.667), 1 championship
Don Shula: 328-156-6 (.678), postseason 19-17 (.528), 2 championships
Hank Stram: 131-97-10 (.575), postseason 5-3 (.625), 2 championships
Mike Tomlin: 63-33 (.656), postseason 5-3 (.625), 1 championship
Dick Vermeil: 120-109 (.524), postseason 6-5 (.545), 1 championship
Bill Walsh: 92-59-1 (.609), postseason 10-4 (.714), 3 championships

Over 23% of all fans who have voted so far did NOT put Lombardi in their top 20!!!

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2013 9:20 pm**

Hmmmmmm...One would think that having the Super Bowl trophy named after one certain individual that people may want to give a bit more respect to arguabley THE greatest coach that has ever coached in the NFL.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2013 10:02 pm**

DarthMonk wrote:Over 23% of all fans who have voted so far did NOT put Lombardi in their top 20!!!

Then, clearly, 23% of all fans who voted...
1: Were not qualified
2: Really should put down the crack pipe, and,
3: Are probably sporting a really nifty Dallas Cowboys fan finger while serving coffee at White Castle.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2013 10:32 pm**

DarthMonk wrote:.. Who are the greatest coaches in NFL history? (PICK 20)

George Allen: 116-47-5 (.712), postseason 2-7 (.222), 0 championships
Bill Belichick: 187-101 (.649), postseason 18-8 (.692), 3 championships
Brian Billick: 80-64 (.556), postseason 5-3 (.625), 1 championship
Paul Brown: 213-104-9 (.672), postseason 9-8 (.529), 7 championships
Guy Chamberlin: 58-16-7 (.784), 4 championships
Jimmy Conzelman: 87-63-17 (.580), postseason 1-1, 2 championships
Don Coryell: 111-83-1 (.572), postseason 3-6 (.333), 0 championships
Tom Coughlin: 151-121 (.555), postseason 12-7 (.632), 2 championships
Bill Cowher: 149-90-1 (.623), postseason 12-9 (.571), 1 championship
Mike Ditka: 121-95 (.560), postseason 6-6 (.500), 1 championship
Tony Dungy: 139-69 (.668), postseason 9-10 (.474), 1 championship
Weeb Ewbank: 130-129-7 (.502), postseason 4-1 (.800), 3 championships
Jeff Fisher: 149-129 (.536), postseason 5-6 (.455), 0 championships
Ray Flaherty: 80-37-5 (.684), postseason 2-4 (.333), 2 championships
Tom Flores: 97-87 (.527), postseason 8-3 (.727), 2 championships
Joe Gibbs: 154-94 (.621), postseason 17-7 (.708), 3 championships
Sid Gillman: 122-99-7 (.552), postseason 1-5 (.167), 1 championship (AFL)
Bud Grant: 158-96-5 (.622), postseason 10-12 (.455), 0 championships
Dennis Green: 113-94 (.546), postseason 4-8 (.333), 0 championships
Jon Gruden: 95-81 (.540), postseason 5-4 (.556), 1 championship
George Halas: 318-148-31 (.682), postseason 6-3 (.667), 6 championships
John Harbaugh: 54-26 (.675), postseason 9-4 (.692), 1 championship
Mike Holmgren: 161-111 (.592), postseason 13-11 (.542), 1 championship
Jim Lee Howell: 53-27-4 (.663), postseason 2-2 (.500), 1 championship
Jimmy Johnson: 80-64 (.556), postseason 9-4 (.692), 2 championships
Chuck Knox: 186-147-1 (.559), postseason 7-11 (.389), 0 championships
Curly Lambeau: 226-132-22 (.631), postseason 3-2 (.600), 6 championships
Tom Landry: 250-162-6 (.607), postseason 20-16 (.556), 2 championships
Marv Levy: 143-112 (.561), postseason 11-8 (.579), 0 championships
Vince Lombardi: 96-34-6 (.738), postseason 9-1 (.900), 5 championships
John Madden: 103-32-7 (.763), postseason 6-4 (.600), 1 championship
Mike McCarthy: 74-38 (.661), postseason 6-4 (.600), 1 championship
Jim E. Mora: 125-106 (.541), postseason 0-6 (.000), 0 championships
Greasy Neale: 63-43-5 (.594), postseason 3-1 (.750), 2 championships
Chuck Noll: 193-148-1 (.566), postseason 16-8 (.667), 4 championships
Steve Owen: 151-100-17 (.602), postseason 2-8 (.200), 2 championships
Bill Parcells: 172-130-1 (.570), postseason 11-8 (.579), 2 championships
Buddy Parker: 104-75-9 (.581), postseason 3-1 (.750), 2 championships
Sean Payton: 62-34 (.646), postseason 5-3 (.625), 1 championships
Dan Reeves: 190-165-2 (.535), postseason 11-9 (.550), 0 championships
Andy Reid: 130-93-1 (.583), postseason 10-9 (.526), 0 championships
Marty Schottenheimer: 200-126-1 (.613), postseason 5-13 (.278), 0 championships
George Seifert: 114-62 (.648), postseason 10-5 (.667), 2 championships
Mike Shanahan: 167-125 (.572), postseason 8-6 (.571), 2 championships
Buck Shaw: 90-55-5 (.621), postseason 2-1 (.667), 1 championship
Don Shula: 328-156-6 (.678), postseason 19-17 (.528), 2 championships
Hank Stram: 131-97-10 (.575), postseason 5-3 (.625), 2 championships
Mike Tomlin: 63-33 (.656), postseason 5-3 (.625), 1 championship
Dick Vermeil: 120-109 (.524), postseason 6-5 (.545), 1 championship
Bill Walsh: 92-59-1 (.609), postseason 10-4 (.714), 3 championships[/code]

Over 23% of all fans who have voted so far did NOT put Lombardi in their top 20

that's a shame - or an indictment ...

I may have only been in the USA for just over 40 years - even I know that Vince Lombardi is CERTAINLY one of the top 20 NFL coaches ...

I guess it shows how IGNORANT many NFL fans are - My 2 cents

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2013 4:43 am**

I always thought Jim Mora was entertaining, but looking at his numbers, I have to wonder why he's even on this list. I guess coaching the Saints to their first ever winning season is accomplishment enough. :lol:

Seriously though, it looks like 100 wins or a championship gets you on the list.

As for 23% not voting for Lombardi, they probably only voted for 1 coach.

Other notable stats:

George Allen: #4 regular season winning percentage.

Vince Lombardi: #3 regular season winning percentage, #1 post season winning percentage, #3 championships

Joe Gibbs: #3 post season winning percentage among coaches with more than 10 post season games. #1 post season winning percentage among coaches with more than 20 post season games.

Bill Parcells: Numbers are totally underwhelming. (.500's in both regular and post seasons)

Andy Reid: Same.

John Madden: Should be much higher on the list.

Weeb Ewbank: 1 game over .500 :shock:

3 championships, though.

Posted: **Sat May 25, 2013 4:15 pm**

Deadskins wrote:I always thought Jim Mora was entertaining, but looking at his numbers, I have to wonder why he's even on this list. I guess coaching the Saints to their first ever winning season is accomplishment enough. Seriously though, it looks like 100 wins or a championship gets you on the list.

As for 23% not voting for Lombardi, they probably only voted for 1 coach.

Other notable stats:

George Allen: #4 regular season winning percentage.

Vince Lombardi: #3 regular season winning percentage, #1 post season winning percentage, #3 championships

Joe Gibbs: #3 post season winning percentage among coaches with more than 10 post season games. #1 post season winning percentage among coaches with more than 20 post season games.

Bill Parcells: Numbers are totally underwhelming. (.500's in both regular and post seasons)

Andy Reid: Same.

John Madden: Should be much higher on the list.

Weeb Ewbank: 1 game over .500 3 championships, though.

Weeb is in my top 20. Just making sure that you know the list I posted is the top 50 alphabetical. Madden probably made the top 10 for ESPN I guess we'll find out.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2013 2:01 am**

DarthMonk wrote:
Deadskins wrote:I always thought Jim Mora was entertaining, but looking at his numbers, I have to wonder why he's even on this list. I guess coaching the Saints to their first ever winning season is accomplishment enough. Seriously though, it looks like 100 wins or a championship gets you on the list.

As for 23% not voting for Lombardi, they probably only voted for 1 coach.

Other notable stats:

George Allen: #4 regular season winning percentage.

Vince Lombardi: #3 regular season winning percentage, #1 post season winning percentage, #3 championships

Joe Gibbs: #3 post season winning percentage among coaches with more than 10 post season games. #1 post season winning percentage among coaches with more than 20 post season games.

Bill Parcells: Numbers are totally underwhelming. (.500's in both regular and post seasons)

Andy Reid: Same.

John Madden: Should be much higher on the list.

Weeb Ewbank: 1 game over .500 3 championships, though.

Weeb is in my top 20. Just making sure that you know the list I posted is the top 50 alphabetical. Madden probably made the top 10 for ESPN I guess we'll find out.

I was referring to to voting list, not the alphabetical list. :roll:

Posted: **Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:04 am**

Age of voters. How many voters remember Lombardi, Halas, Paul Brown? Curly Lambeau?

Weeb: Colts and the Jets: from nothing to champs.

Posted: **Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:53 pm**

I bumped this to ask did JG make the top 20? I never could sit down to the entire two segments on ESPEON so I don't know for sure (although I have my doubts...)

Thanks in advance for the 411.

Posted: **Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:39 pm**

Deadskins wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
Deadskins wrote:I always thought Jim Mora was entertaining, but looking at his numbers, I have to wonder why he's even on this list. I guess coaching the Saints to their first ever winning season is accomplishment enough. Seriously though, it looks like 100 wins or a championship gets you on the list.

As for 23% not voting for Lombardi, they probably only voted for 1 coach.

Other notable stats:

George Allen: #4 regular season winning percentage.

Vince Lombardi: #3 regular season winning percentage, #1 post season winning percentage, #3 championships

Joe Gibbs: #3 post season winning percentage among coaches with more than 10 post season games. #1 post season winning percentage among coaches with more than 20 post season games.

Bill Parcells: Numbers are totally underwhelming. (.500's in both regular and post seasons)

Andy Reid: Same.

John Madden: Should be much higher on the list.

Weeb Ewbank: 1 game over .500 3 championships, though.

Weeb is in my top 20. Just making sure that you know the list I posted is the top 50 alphabetical. Madden probably made the top 10 for ESPN I guess we'll find out.

I was referring to to voting list, not the alphabetical list.

By voting list do you mean the top 20 list? I didn't know they had revealed Madden's position as of May 25. All you said was "the list" and it was only natural to think you were looking at the list I posted.

:roll:

back at ya.

BTW - like welch said, Ewbank built two crappy teams from the ground up. Paul Brown hated losing him.

Also, someone asked where Gibbs came in. He came in 9th.

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