WELCOME ROOKIES!!

[The Hogster]

The Washington Redskins added 7 players this draft. Deviating from the prior trade down philosophy, the Redskins held all of their picks and selected several guys who will either start or contribute right away. Here's the 2013 Rookie Class along with a brief write up of them.

1. David Amerson

Cornerback NCST
6'2
205lbs
4.4 forty
18 INTS over 2 years.

Tall, fast corner who has a knack for making interceptions. Lead the NCAA in INTS in 2011 with a whopping 13. Got greedy in 2012 and went for the interception rather than keeping discipline, but still wound up with 5 more picks for a staggering 18 total in 2 years. Taller in the mold of a Richard Sherman but a faster corner who can play press man or zone coverage. Will play outside corner. And, should start opposite Josh Wilson, with D Hall moving into the slot.



2. Jordan Reed
Tight End FLA
6'3 246
4.7 forty
Florida's leading receiver despite weak QB play.

A converted QB who quickly emerged as a shifty and versatile Tight End. Has open field moves like a RB, and will likely line up all over the field. Compared by several analysts to Aaron Hernandez. According to Shanahan, he was their top rated pass catching Tight End. Should be an upgrade over Niles Paul and would allow Paulsen to return to his best role as an in-line blocking TE who can work the middle of the field when needed. Should be a versatile weapon in two tight end sets.



3. Phillip Thomas
Safety FRESNO STATE
6'0
208lbs
4.5 forty
Ball Hawk, turnover machine. Forces almost as many fumbles as interceptions. Hard hitter who can cover. Should start sometime this season.



4. Brandon Jenkins
OLB FLA STATE
6'3
250lbs
4.8 forty
Former projected 1st round pick before Lis Franc foot injury forced him out of the game. Recorded 22 sacks over his sophomore and junior years. Good edge rusher who will play OLB after being a DE in college.



5. Chris Thompson
RB FLA STATE
5'8
190lbs
4.4 forty

Change of pace back. Fast and explosive. Averaged 7.5 yards per rush before tearing his ACL. Was on pace to become first FSU RB to run for over 1,000 yards in a season since Warrick Dunn. Good pass catcher. Burner who should compete for a spot, or wind up on the PS.



6. Bacarri Rambo
FS UGA
6'0
211lbs
4.5 forty

First Team All American selection at Free Safety. True FS who isn't a real big hitter but will throw his body around. Good ball skills and has recorded 11 INTS in the last 2 years despite losing games to suspension both seasons. Failed a drug test. Could have been a 2nd round pick if not for his off field issues.




7. Jawan Jamison
RB RUTGERS
5'7
205lbs
4.6forty
Shifty running back. Models his game after Ray Rice. Is elusive more than he is fast. But, could be a steal if he lives up to his goal of being a Ray Rice type.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Thanks for putting this thread together. I'm very pleased with this draft.

[The Hogster]

Thanks for putting this thread together. I'm very pleased with this draft.

+1

It's crazy that if someone told us this would be the incoming draft class, we probably would have guessed the rounds all wrong. I know I would have.

Getting 3 guys who combined for 40 picks in the last 2 years is quite impressive. Especially since we got Amerson, Thomas & Rambo in the 2nd, 4th and 6th rounds, after each of them was projected higher.

HAIL

[HTTRRG3ALMO]

Nice work brother. This draft was worth the painful wait. A+ on this draft!

[tribeofjudah]

Thanks Hogster....very nicely put together.

My question would be: why 2 more RBs? We have Morris, Helu, Royster.

Someone is getting PUSHED OUT for sure. Competition is a bitch.....

[Chris Luva Luva]

Watching Jawan's highlight film makes me believe he'll make the team. Running behind this line, he has the shiftiness to make the safety miss.

[The Hogster]

Thanks Hogster....very nicely put together.

My question would be: why 2 more RBs? We have Morris, Helu, Royster.

Someone is getting PUSHED OUT for sure. Competition is a bitch.....

My guess is that one of these rookies will make the team in some capacity pushing someone out of work. Roy Helu might be the odd man out. It will be interesting to follow this competition. I firmly believe this staff takes the competition thing seriously. Whoever makes it will probably be on the team because they just out performed the other RBs.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Thanks Hogster....very nicely put together.

My question would be: why 2 more RBs? We have Morris, Helu, Royster.

Someone is getting PUSHED OUT for sure. Competition is a bitch.....

I'm not a fan of Royster, Helu had and continues to have an inability to stay healthy. Royster brings absolutely zero spark to the offense, at least he doesn't fumble.

[HTTRRG3ALMO]

Thanks Hogster....very nicely put together.

My question would be: why 2 more RBs? We have Morris, Helu, Royster.

Someone is getting PUSHED OUT for sure. Competition is a @#!*% .....

I'm not a fan of Royster, Helu had and continues to have an inability to stay healthy. Royster brings absolutely zero spark to the offense, at least he doesn't fumble.

+1

Yeah I think Royster will be finished. I'd be ok with one of the two RBs we signed if Morris got hurt. If Royster was our go to guy, I'd be worried.

I'm still with the school of thought that Helu isn't going to have the durability we need, but we'll see. Hope we give him an adequate chance to come back full throttle.

[The Hogster]

Mike Shanahan Talks Rookies

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan obviously won’t know until a couple of years down the road exactly how good a job he and his staff did at drafting their 2013 class. But as the team wrapped up its draft Saturday night, the coach said he felt good about the collection of players acquired.
“When you get done with the draft, you’re trying to look for some depth and some competition on your football team and I thought we were able to do that today,” Shanahan said. “I felt good about the guys that we did get. It gives guys a chance to compete against one another, and we’re a better football team today than we were yesterday, and I thought the draft went well.”
Shanahan spoke most extensively about his secondary additions, but did give some analysis on each player taken on Saturday.
Here’s some of what the coach had to say:
On safety Phillip Thomas (fourth-rounder):
What Shanahan liked:
“Lot of things. Great job adjusting to the football. Lot of interceptions. … He wasn’t afraid to hit people, he can support the run, had a good feel, played a lot of different coverages that we play. When we did meet with him, he was very quick mentally, and we think he’ll adjust very quickly to our system. Very similar system that he ran in college that we run.”
On if Thomas could start as a rookie:
“I think that’s what you expect. That’s what you’re hoping for. It doesn’t always happen that way. If they can’t start, you’re hoping eventually they’re ready if we do lose a player, and that they can help on special teams. Some guys can pick things up fairly quickly. I think for a guy like Phillip Thomas, it’ll be a little bit easier because they ran a very similar system to what we have, so he might be able to help us a little bit quicker. But you never know for sure until they get out here, start working out. But we feel very good about the guys we signed.”
On Bacarri Rambo (sixth-rounder):
What he likes?
“Just the way he played the game. You can tell he’s a tremendous athlete, former quarterback. Just a guy that has a lot of intangibles, makes plays all over the football field, and I think his game will just get better and better.”

On possible concerns about Rambo’s past drug problems:
“We do a lot of background checks. We talk to these people quite a bit, and not only him, coaches and head coaches, and if we don’t feel comfortable with someone, we don’t sign them, and we felt very comfortable with him.”
On if Rambo and Thomas are free or strong safeties:
“You add a couple safeties with [Thomas] and [Rambo] – two guys that play the free safety position but also play the strong safety position as well. We felt like we needed some depth and some competition at those positions as well.”
On how Rambo, Thomas and David Amerson help the secondary:
“You’re always looking for guys that can catch the football. But you’re looking for speed, the safety position, you’re looking for guys that can catch the football. But more importantly, I think we’ve got a little bit more flexibility. You’ve got a guy like [E.J.] Biggers, and a guy like Amerson, we’ve got the flexibility with a guy like D-Hall, a guy like Josh Wilson, who can work inside as well. But we’ve got flexibility on the outside, and a little more flexibility inside with our nickel and dime packages, combined with our two new safeties and the possibility of Brandon Meriweather coming back full speed, is Tanard Jackson? But, Pugh, [Jerome] Murphy, we’ve got a lot of guys that are competing and that’s what gives you a chance.”
OLB Brandon Jenkins (fifth-rounder)
On where he would’ve been taken if healthy in 2013:
“You never know for sure, but we had him ranked fairly high anyhow, and then when he was there, we couldn’t pass him up. Last season he played extremely well. Would he have went in the first round, second round? I really don’t know, but he was impressive.”
(The 6-foot-2, 251-pound Jenkins – a preseason all-American – recorded 13.5 sacks in 2010 and eight sacks in 2011).
RB Chris Thompson (fifth-rounder)
On his potential role:
“I think Chris is a guy that could excel against nickel defenses, he could be that third-down back. He’s got great hands, he’s got great elusiveness. He averaged over seven yards a carry. He’s a guy that I think can do it all, and you always like to have a couple backs that complement each other and I think he’ll complement our running backs in what they do.”
RB Jawan Jamison (seventh-rounder)
On taking him in the seventh round and his potential:
“Jamison is a guy I thought would be gone much earlier. We weren’t really looking for a running back in that seventh round, but he was there and we just thought he was too good to pass up. Very similar to guys we’ve talked about in the past. When a guy’s in the seventh round that you have ranked much higher, we thought he could do a lot of the same things. Not only could he excel in the nickel packages, but he could be a first-down runner as well.”

Highlights:

Says he "expects" Phillip Thomas to start at Safety this year. Says the scheme he ran in college is similar which will help him. If he thinks that Thomas could start this year, the conventional wisdom is that he also thinks Amerson will start.

Suggests Brandon Jenkins would have gone in the 1st or 2nd round if he weren't injured.

Says that Jawan Jamison was too good to pass up in the 7th even though they weren't looking for a RB.

Says Rambo is an athlete that should provide competition at Safety and had no reservations about his character.[/img]

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[Deadskins]

Did he mention Reed at all?

[The Hogster]

Did he mention Reed at all?

He touched on him yesterday. His comments were something along the lines of the team wasn't targeting a TE specifically, but they had him as their #1 pass catching TE and his value was too much to pass up in the 3rd. They think he's an impact player.

[tribeofjudah]

I really liked Helu UNTIL Morris started lighting it up. Royster was my last on my list.

Wish Helu would stay healthy.....we shall see.

[The Hogster]

FYI - When it comes to value in the 5th Round, it's important to read between the lines and put some things together on Brandon Jenkins.

FACT #1 - Brandon Jenkins was once considered a potential 1st round pick after racking up 21.5 sacks over his Sophomore & Junior seasons.

FACT #2- A foot injury ended Jenkins' season and opened the door for his replacement Tank Carradine.

FACT #3 - Tank Carradine was drafted in the 2nd Round by the 49ers this year after performing well in Jenkins' absense.

FACT #4 - The FLA STATE coaches apparently believed Jenkins to be a superior player to Carradine, hence him being the starter prior to his foot injury.

FACT #5 - The Redskins coaching staff (per Mike Shanahan) thinks that Jenkins' would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick if not for his injury.

FACT #6 - They could not pass him in the 5th Round as he offered too much value and upside.

FACT #7 - IF Jenkins heals up well from his foot injury, the REDSKINS just acquired a 1st round pass rusher with a 5th Round pick.

[DaSkinz Baby]

Okay Hogster nice thread I give credit where credit is due........

[KazooSkinsFan]

Thanks Hogster....very nicely put together.

My question would be: why 2 more RBs? We have Morris, Helu, Royster.

Someone is getting PUSHED OUT for sure. Competition is a bitch.....

I'm not a fan of Royster, Helu had and continues to have an inability to stay healthy. Royster brings absolutely zero spark to the offense, at least he doesn't fumble.

I'd keep Royster though for that reason, at least he's available to play. I don't think he's terrible, but we definitely want an upgrade when we get the chance. Hopefully one of the two rookies will knock either Royster or Helu out this year. I don't think it's inconceivable if they both do well they knock both of them out. I don't think either will be on the team in a couple years.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Thanks Hogster....very nicely put together.

My question would be: why 2 more RBs? We have Morris, Helu, Royster.

Someone is getting PUSHED OUT for sure. Competition is a bitch.....

I'm not a fan of Royster, Helu had and continues to have an inability to stay healthy. Royster brings absolutely zero spark to the offense, at least he doesn't fumble.

I'd keep Royster though for that reason, at least he's available to play. I don't think he's terrible, but we definitely want an upgrade when we get the chance. Hopefully one of the two rookies will knock either Royster or Helu out this year. I don't think it's inconceivable if they both do well they knock both of them out. I don't think either will be on the team in a couple years.

Royster averaged more then helu per rush their rookie year.
Royster posted 100 yard plus games every time he started as a rookie.(minus the game he left w injury I think.. or idk its been a while)
Royster, though injured from time to time, has played both seasons... And recorded a couple tds last year.. helu?

I love Helu, but facts is facts. One thing I will way is Helu probably compliments Morris more.. where Royster has the better vision he ismore similar to Morris then Helu.. and in the middle as far as speed and power.

Speed: Helu Royster morris.
Power: morris Royster helu.

He's dependable, has vision and is a one cut runner.
His limited role last year was pretty much short yardage and obvious run plays. While he could have done better on some plays, he either got what he could or what we needed. I blame his numbers on the role he served. Not sayin he is better then Helu, or vice versa.. fact is his rookie year was equally impressive, they both got beat out by Morris' motor, but HELU hasn't taken a hand off in a year.. #justsayin

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Back to the OP... Royster churching up aside..


I'm excited about the draft class, sweet thread Hogster!

[DaSkinz Baby]

I'm not a fan of Royster, Helu had and continues to have an inability to stay healthy. Royster brings absolutely zero spark to the offense, at least he doesn't fumble.

I'd keep Royster though for that reason, at least he's available to play. I don't think he's terrible, but we definitely want an upgrade when we get the chance. Hopefully one of the two rookies will knock either Royster or Helu out this year. I don't think it's inconceivable if they both do well they knock both of them out. I don't think either will be on the team in a couple years.

Royster averaged more then helu per rush their rookie year.
Royster posted 100 yard plus games every time he started as a rookie.(minus the game he left w injury I think.. or idk its been a while)
Royster, though injured from time to time, has played both seasons... And recorded a couple tds last year.. helu?

I love Helu, but facts is facts. One thing I will way is Helu probably compliments Morris more.. where Royster has the better vision he ismore similar to Morris then Helu.. and in the middle as far as speed and power.

Speed: Helu Royster morris.
Power: morris Royster helu.

He's dependable, has vision and is a one cut runner.
His limited role last year was pretty much short yardage and obvious run plays. While he could have done better on some plays, he either got what he could or what we needed. I blame his numbers on the role he served. Not sayin he is better then Helu, or vice versa.. fact is his rookie year was equally impressive, they both got beat out by Morris' motor, but HELU hasn't taken a hand off in a year.. #justsayin

Royster seems to run in cement and fall over his own feet too many times for my liking. I actually hope one of these picks replaces him on our roster.

[Deadskins]

I'd keep Royster though for that reason, at least he's available to play. I don't think he's terrible, but we definitely want an upgrade when we get the chance. Hopefully one of the two rookies will knock either Royster or Helu out this year. I don't think it's inconceivable if they both do well they knock both of them out. I don't think either will be on the team in a couple years.

Royster averaged more then helu per rush their rookie year.
Royster posted 100 yard plus games every time he started as a rookie.(minus the game he left w injury I think.. or idk its been a while)
Royster, though injured from time to time, has played both seasons... And recorded a couple tds last year.. helu?

I love Helu, but facts is facts. One thing I will way is Helu probably compliments Morris more.. where Royster has the better vision he ismore similar to Morris then Helu.. and in the middle as far as speed and power.

Speed: Helu Royster morris.
Power: morris Royster helu.

He's dependable, has vision and is a one cut runner.
His limited role last year was pretty much short yardage and obvious run plays. While he could have done better on some plays, he either got what he could or what we needed. I blame his numbers on the role he served. Not sayin he is better then Helu, or vice versa.. fact is his rookie year was equally impressive, they both got beat out by Morris' motor, but HELU hasn't taken a hand off in a year.. #justsayin

Royster seems to run in cement and fall over his own feet too many times for my liking. I actually hope one of these picks replaces him on our roster.

I think Royster will be battling Jamison for the final RB spot. The only knock I have on Royster is that he seems to go down too easily. He was playing through a nagging injury last year, and seemed to only be used in third and long situations on a draw or RB screen. He was set up to fail by how they used him. I'm pretty sure Thompson will knock Helu off the team. Hopefully, we might get a late round pick for Helu.

[riggofan]

Didn't want to start up a new thread for this, but I thought it was a good/different analysis of the Skins draft.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/46341626

Washington Redskins

Finds Talent: Satisfactory. David Amerson is another DeAngelo Hall: He will go from boom to bust and back again in the course of three games. As an alleged "shutdown" corner, Hall has been criminally overrated throughout his career. As the 51st overall pick and a developmental player, Amerson is an excellent gamble. Tight end Jordan Reed blocks like a wide receiver but sometimes runs like one. Pass rusher Brandon Jenkins is a good system fit for a team that knows what to do with high-effort pass rushers.

Meets Needs: Satisfactory. Amerson, Phillip Thomas and Bacarri Rambo change the shape of a secondary that had gotten shapeless. The Redskins could still use more depth and better competition at positions like wide receiver and the offensive line.

Uses Resources: Outstanding. With no first-round pick to work with, the Redskins mixed a potential high-impact player in Amerson with quality role players like Reed, Thomas and Jenkins, and grabbing system fits like running back Chris Thompson in late rounds. The upside of this draft class is pretty high.

Final Assessment: Proficient, bordering on Advanced. The Redskins are swinging for blue chippers, a sign that they realize that there is still building to do before they become true contenders. Past Redskins regimes would have flaked out after one divisional title.