That Unsportsmanlike at the End

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:14 pm

1) How the hell is an unsporttsmanlike 20 yards anyway? Thought it was 15?
2) Who the hell was it on? According to https://twitter.com/Redskins it was on the bench?

TeeterSalad · Post by **TeeterSalad** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:19 pm

ACW wrote:1) How the hell is an unsporttsmanlike 20 yards anyway? Thought it was 15?
2) Who the hell was it on? According to https://twitter.com/Redskins it was on the bench?

I would have thought it would be on the Bengals bench for storming the field before the game ended? I wasn't sure why they thought it should be a 10-second run-off...it was a dead ball.

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:22 pm

I also wanna know how the hell it was 20 yards.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:39 pm

They never did the 10 second run-off on the Hankerson injury. The game should have been over the play before.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:47 pm

There was a 5 yard false start. Did they mark off 25 or 20?

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:49 pm

Deadskins wrote:There was a 5 yard false start. Did they mark off 25 or 20?

25. From http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201209230 ... playbyplay
3-25-CIN 34 (:07) (Shotgun) PENALTY on WAS-83-F.Davis, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at CIN 34 - No Play. PENALTY on WAS, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 20 yards, enforced between downs.
3-50-WAS 41 (:06) (Shotgun) 10-R.Griffin pass incomplete deep right to 15-J.Morgan.

3rd and 25 to 3rd and 50

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:39 pm

I just heard on ESPN 980 that the Unsportsman Like conduct penalty was on Kyle Shanahan who called the Referee a M'Fer SMH

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:52 pm

The Hogster wrote:I just heard on ESPN 980 that the Unsportsman Like conduct penalty was on Kyle Shanahan who called the Referee a M'Fer SMH

Okay, that's legit...but why 20 yards?

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:04 pm

So, apparently it was 2 PFs. Should've been 30 yards+5 for the false start. Go figure.

FanofallthatisGibbs · Post by **FanofallthatisGibbs** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:57 am

TeeterSalad wrote:
ACW wrote:1) How the hell is an unsporttsmanlike 20 yards anyway? Thought it was 15?
2) Who the hell was it on? According to https://twitter.com/Redskins it was on the bench?
I would have thought it would be on the Bengals bench for storming the field before the game ended? I wasn't sure why they thought it should be a 10-second run-off...it was a dead ball.

This. Officials continue a woeful display. However, you couldn't pay me enough to be a zebra at this moment in time. They are being used like $2 whores from Thailand.

This is not a pro/con for any team, just a collective cluster****!

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:23 am

It might just get worse.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:44 am

Espn 980 reported what Kyle said to the ref in the tunnel. Here is what PFT says 980 reported and it matches what I heard on the radio.

http://m.nbcsports.com/content/redskins ... g-official

This is a PG_13 site so I won't quote the a article.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:09 am

skinsfan#33 wrote:Espn 980 reported what Kyle said to the ref in the tunnel. Here is what PFT says 980 reported and it matches what I heard on the radio.

http://m.nbcsports.com/content/redskins ... g-official

This is a PG_13 site so I won't quote the a article.

Fixed your link.

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:34 am

Before I go off on Kyle, was this AFTER the game or after they called the false start and ultimately what the personal fould was called on? Did a couple of the refs actually come into the tunnel after that call thinking the game was over because a run off? I mean, WTF? The refs were actually heading into the locker room (including the head linesman)??? What was he calling him a pussy for? That they didn't call a personal foul for their entire team coming onto the field before the game was over? Need some answers, but either way, Kyle, you have got to control yourself...especially after Morgan took the heat he did last week. And it sounded like MS was kind of defending it vaguely at the press conference. He didn't actually mention Kyle as being the culprit, and definately talked WAY around it and defended it a bit

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:42 am

Good for Kyle. The officiating right now is freaking ludicrous. These guys don't command respect because they just don't seem to have enough understanding or control over the game.

Shanahan isn't the only coach in trouble. I'm sure everybody saw Belichik grabbing a ref after that game last night.

I actually feel bad for these refs. The NFL has put them in a terrible position.

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:08 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... _blog.html
Oy.

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:15 am

Most of us in the stands thought the game was over after the penalty also.

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:20 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... _blog.html

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:29 am

ACW wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/the-redskins-got-a-20-yard-unsportsmanlike-conduct-penalty/2012/09/24/a82a195c-063c-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html

Are you gonna post it once for each yard?

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:33 am

Deadskins wrote:
ACW wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/the-redskins-got-a-20-yard-unsportsmanlike-conduct-penalty/2012/09/24/a82a195c-063c-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html
Are you gonna post it once for each yard?

Sorry, site was acting up

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:42 am

ACW wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
ACW wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/the-redskins-got-a-20-yard-unsportsmanlike-conduct-penalty/2012/09/24/a82a195c-063c-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html
Are you gonna post it once for each yard?
Sorry, site was acting up

Yes, it was. I deleted all my repeat posts.

rskin72 · Post by **rskin72** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:08 pm

Was a cluster that last 1:07 of the game was. I was at FEDEX....and first the officials tried to run 10 seconds off the game clock after the injury to Hank as the Skins had no more timeouts to use. However, this rule apparently only applies if the clock is under a minute, whereas the clock was at 1:07 for this. The ref's spoke with a couple of folks on the sidelines, then corrected the call. After we had marched the ball to the Bengals 19....RGIII was sacked. The fun began again after he spiked the ball to stop the clock with :07 left. Davis then had a false start penalty, and the next thing I know, the Bengal's team is walking across to shake hands as if the game was over. They thought that it would be a 10 second runoff. Apparently, one of the ref's told Mike Shanahan that the game was over also. I did not see what happened on the Redskins sideline as I sit across from them, but I then saw the ref's trying to get the Bengals back to their sideline.....and then we were hit with a unsportsmanlike conduct penalty of 20 yards. This added onto the false start of 5 yards. I do not recall the ref's saying anything on the PA, but trust me that the fans were letting their voice be heard, and were asking one another what happened. I was also listening to the broadcast, and that is where I first heard that the bench had received the penalty.

All I have to say is what a dumb, dumb mistake for a coach....let lone our offensive coordinator AND the coach's son....to make. Didn't I hear Mike speak about not losing your composure this past week in reference to the Morgan penalty last game? I am not saying we could have scored a TD....but it would have been a more realistic attempt without another 20 yards tacked on. I have a feeling that Kyle will be hearing from the league office about this......

As a team, we seem to make some really dumb mistakes at critical junctures in games.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:21 pm

rskin72 wrote:All I have to say is what a dumb, dumb mistake for a coach....let lone our offensive coordinator AND the coach's son....to make. Didn't I hear Mike speak about not losing your composure this past week in reference to the Morgan penalty last game? I am not saying we could have scored a TD....but it would have been a more realistic attempt without another 20 yards tacked on. I have a feeling that Kyle will be hearing from the league office about this......

I'm still not clear what the penalty was for. Every coach in the league right now is spending half the game berrating the refs, with the loudest, red-faced yelling I've ever seen. I'm sure they've heard it all, but I guess Shanny the Younger must have crossed some line.

My sis-in-law got married yesterday, and I'm actually kind of glad I missed the game. Seeing RGIII take us all the way to the 20 on a last-minute drive, only to have this happen would have been painful to watch.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:28 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:My sis-in-law got married yesterday, and I'm actually kind of glad I missed the game. Seeing RGIII take us all the way to the 20 on a last-minute drive, only to have this happen would have been painful to watch.

It was, but it was totally worth watching the game. RG3 keeps showing he's the real deal. Getting to the 20 said so much more positive then the negative of things falling apart at the 20. We have a great future ahead of us.

Ironically the refs weren't too bad until the last couple minutes of the game. They were pretty much as good as the regular refs, who people seem to be forgetting have major issues as well and they hate our guts. Unfortunately at the end they were dazed and confused about running off clock, not running it off. I just wish Kyle had said that to the real refs, they deserve it way more.

rskin72 · Post by **rskin72** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:30 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
rskin72 wrote:All I have to say is what a dumb, dumb mistake for a coach....let lone our offensive coordinator AND the coach's son....to make. Didn't I hear Mike speak about not losing your composure this past week in reference to the Morgan penalty last game? I am not saying we could have scored a TD....but it would have been a more realistic attempt without another 20 yards tacked on. I have a feeling that Kyle will be hearing from the league office about this......
I'm still not clear what the penalty was for. Every coach in the league right now is spending half the game berrating the refs, with the loudest, red-faced yelling I've ever seen. I'm sure they've heard it all, but I guess Shanny the Younger must have crossed some line.

My sis-in-law got married yesterday, and I'm actually kind of glad I missed the game. Seeing RGIII take us all the way to the 20 on a last-minute drive, only to have this happen would have been painful to watch.

As others have mentioned.....Kyle apparently confronted the head ref and basically cursed him out.....stating that he lacked a pair, and calling him a F****** P****. That was what I heard while listening to the Redskins post game show while driving back to Va. Bch. While I guess we could debate whether or not that should have been a penalty as I see other coaches cursing ref's (both regular and replacement) all the time....certainly an assistant coach should have realized the circumstances better and let the head coach handle the situation. Especially when the NFL just came out the past week and warned coaches about abusing the refs, and after the Morgan play and fall out from last weekend. IMHO.

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