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^^^ hey it's the poster.

What are you thoughts on the re-signing, mr poster?

ehh it's all right. I was actually wondering if they'd give Clinton Portis a tryout, seeing that they really need a veteran in camp.

right now I'm reading this ranking 1-32 of all NFL teams' offensive lines when I noticed that Hightower was re-signed.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/4 ... kings?pg=2

Not a surprise, he could not find anything anywhere else. I don't think he really adds anything to the team.

dftt...

This new tactic is amusing. By posting relevant news, the bees have been lured to the hive. Lolol.

aswas71788 wrote:Not a surprise, he could not find anything anywhere else. I don't think he really adds anything to the team.

Adds nothing to the team!?!?!? Are you mad..?!?!?

Apart from experience at a position where we have none, leadership skills and a brilliant team and work ethic, some fantastic pass protection ability, great hands out of the backfield, and most importantly excellent cut-running ability, or is that not enough for you....?

He fits the Shanahan scheme perfectly.

I'm DELIGHTED he's back, he's such a positive influence off the field which is a bonus with a team that's as young as ours is, but I'm happy to wager if he stays fit he'll lead the team in rushing next season.

This has made my day!

That and Man United losing the title...

I agree 100% SLR. There are some very strange fans around. Hightower is a great re-signing. I personally expect Helu to lead the team in rushing, but it could be close. We might not even have a 1000 back this year, but still have one of the better running attacks around.

And as for Man U losing the title - well, I'm not a hater of that team, nor a lover of City and their billion pound project, but I watched the City game yesterday, and couldn't help willing them to win it.

Still, that's off topic - hooray for Hightower!

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:

aswas71788 wrote:Not a surprise, he could not find anything anywhere else. I don't think he really adds anything to the team.

Adds nothing to the team!?!?!? Are you mad..?!?!?

Apart from experience at a position where we have none, leadership skills and a brilliant team and work ethic, some fantastic pass protection ability, great hands out of the backfield, and most importantly excellent cut-running ability, or is that not enough for you....?

He fits the Shanahan scheme perfectly.

I'm DELIGHTED he's back, he's such a positive influence off the field which is a bonus with a team that's as young as ours is, but I'm happy to wager if he stays fit he'll lead the team in rushing next season.

This has made my day!

That and Man United losing the title...

Let's see....hummmm....he rushed for a staggering 64 yards per game (321 yards total in 5 games). I repeat, he adds nothing.

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:I'm DELIGHTED he's back, he's such a positive influence off the field which is a bonus with a team that's as young as ours is, but I'm happy to wager if he stays fit he'll lead the team in rushing next season.

I don't disagree with you, SLR. And I am stoked that you have used the word "delighted" on here.

I'm still concerned about the ACL injury though. How many RBs are effective the year after that injury? Maybe the number is better than I am guessing. Maybe not. This is fantasy football related, but has some good, relevant numbers here:
http://www.footballdocs.com/RB_injury_rule.html

Check out the YDS the year before the ACL injury and the YDS the year after. GRIM.

All that said, Hightower wasn't really a big yardage back last year anyway, and I know they like him as much for his blocking and pass catching. So I have no issue with bringing him back.

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:That and Man United losing the title...

Ugh. And how can you pull for City over United???

Welcome back, 39!!!

Show the fools and give me some ammo this season to ridicule them in smack, please.

aswas71788 wrote:

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:

aswas71788 wrote:Not a surprise, he could not find anything anywhere else. I don't think he really adds anything to the team.

Adds nothing to the team!?!?!? Are you mad..?!?!?

Apart from experience at a position where we have none, leadership skills and a brilliant team and work ethic, some fantastic pass protection ability, great hands out of the backfield, and most importantly excellent cut-running ability, or is that not enough for you....?

He fits the Shanahan scheme perfectly.

I'm DELIGHTED he's back, he's such a positive influence off the field which is a bonus with a team that's as young as ours is, but I'm happy to wager if he stays fit he'll lead the team in rushing next season.

This has made my day!

That and Man United losing the title...

Let's see....hummmm....he rushed for a staggering 64 yards per game (321 yards total in 5 games). I repeat, he adds nothing.

nothing....?

So let's say he only avgs 64 yards a game. What about his blocking (questionable OL)...? What about his ability to catch from the backfield, a useful thing with a rookie QB maybe...?? What about his off field support to the young Helu and Royster...??

Nothing.

Sums up what you know....

High class local guy veterans are something we can't have enough of. Plus he looked good in preseason when we were running the ball more. His ypg may be low due to rex trying to air it out since his first two ints put us down by 20

I'm sure RGIII is glad to have this RB back there

I think its a smart move to bring back Hightower. Running back by committee anyone? Helu, Royster, and Hightower form a pretty good group of backs to have in the backfield. Helu on 1st and 2nd down, bring in Hightower on third and Royster to spell the two.

Cappster wrote:I think its a smart move to bring back Hightower. Running back by committee anyone? Helu, Royster, and Hightower form a pretty good group of backs to have in the backfield. Helu on 1st and 2nd down, bring in Hightower on third and Royster to spell the two.

I might swap Hightower and Helu around from your suggestion, but I agree with the general premise

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:

aswas71788 wrote:

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:
Adds nothing to the team!?!?!? Are you mad..?!?!?

Apart from experience at a position where we have none, leadership skills and a brilliant team and work ethic, some fantastic pass protection ability, great hands out of the backfield, and most importantly excellent cut-running ability, or is that not enough for you....?

He fits the Shanahan scheme perfectly.

I'm DELIGHTED he's back, he's such a positive influence off the field which is a bonus with a team that's as young as ours is, but I'm happy to wager if he stays fit he'll lead the team in rushing next season.

This has made my day!

That and Man United losing the title...

Let's see....hummmm....he rushed for a staggering 64 yards per game (321 yards total in 5 games). I repeat, he adds nothing.

nothing....?

So let's say he only avgs 64 yards a game. What about his blocking (questionable OL)...? What about his ability to catch from the backfield, a useful thing with a rookie QB maybe...?? What about his off field support to the young Helu and Royster...??

Nothing.

Sums up what you know....

I agree about his pass blocking. But come on....he caught 10 passes for 78 yards in 5 games. He averaged 64 yards per game rushing and caught an average of 2 passes per game averaging 7.8 yards each. So he had a combined contribution of 79.6 yards per game. Do you really know anything about his off-field support? Doubt it but if you believe that then fine. Hightower wasn't the starting running back in Arizona, wasn't even 2nd in the depth chart. Why do you think Arizona traded him? I could see your defending him if he were Chris Cooley or Mike Sellers or London Fletcher or any one of the long term Redskins but Hightower has been with Washington one year and played 5 games. I truly hope you are right and that he has an outstanding year but his past performance doesn't indicate that he can.

cowboykillerzRED wrote:High class local guy veterans are something we can't have enough of. Plus he looked good in preseason when we were running the ball more. His ypg may be low due to rex trying to air it out since his first two ints put us down by 20

to be fair, his ypg and even more importantly his ypc have been really low his entire career.

riggofan wrote:

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:That and Man United losing the title...

Ugh. And how can you pull for City over United???

Cos City are "the only football team to come from Manchester!"

United have a terrible armchair support that is fuelled by the love affair the media has for them (remind you of anyone...?).

City have real fans (not for much longer I fear) and they deserve this having waited 44 years since the last league title, and for having to watch United dominate for the last 20 years.

Good luck to them I say. For this season at any rate...

aswas71788 wrote:

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:

aswas71788 wrote: Let's see....hummmm....he rushed for a staggering 64 yards per game (321 yards total in 5 games). I repeat, he adds nothing.

nothing....?

So let's say he only avgs 64 yards a game. What about his blocking (questionable OL)...? What about his ability to catch from the backfield, a useful thing with a rookie QB maybe...?? What about his off field support to the young Helu and Royster...??

Nothing.

Sums up what you know....

I agree about his pass blocking. But come on....he caught 10 passes for 78 yards in 5 games. He averaged 64 yards per game rushing and caught an average of 2 passes per game averaging 7.8 yards each. So he had a combined contribution of 79.6 yards per game. Do you really know anything about his off-field support? Doubt it but if you believe that then fine. Hightower wasn't the starting running back in Arizona, wasn't even 2nd in the depth chart. Why do you think Arizona traded him? I could see your defending him if he were Chris Cooley or Mike Sellers or London Fletcher or any one of the long term Redskins but Hightower has been with Washington one year and played 5 games. I truly hope you are right and that he has an outstanding year but his past performance doesn't indicate that he can.

I don't think it is wise to hold players by last years numbers on that offense.

He looked very good in patches, ordinary in others. Not surprising for someone who has just joined a new team and has had a disrupted start to his time here due to the lockout.

I really like Hightower, he showed glimpses of his ability, he fits this offense really well, he has a great attitude, he's a local boy and I'm telling you he'll lead the team in rushing this year if he stays fit.

Helu may be the long term solution but I suspect he'll have some growing pains this season. Royster too. If Morris makes it that's a good RB unit. We may end up with a clutch of RB's over 600 yards for the season, which works for me!

^^^ - this works for me too

I would not be surprised to seeing a lot more of the skill players used as players are rotated a lot more
and
RGIII becomes more familiar with them and the playbook

How do I feel about Hightower coming back... Meh!

I wouldn't get excited about him returning or leaving.

In the small sample size we had with all three backs (Helu, Royster, and HT) he was the least effective of the three. Now that could have been just because the backups at OL run blocked better than our starters. Or it could have been better play calls or lesser opponents. Whatevr the reason, he was the least effective of the trio.

I can't see HT and the rookie (Morris) both making the team. So that means one of them will (most likely) get cut! (remember you have to cut a guy before you can sign him to the practice squad - HT, Royster, and Helu are't elligable for the PS).

I'm not the biggest Hightower fan, especially coming off of injury. We will see.

I'm glad he'll be back. Not a huge cap hit, and some nice insurance if either Helu or Royster suffers from a sophomore slump. If he comes back hungry he might even be able to recapture the starting role.