Hey Trent Williams....where's the bong?

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Tue May 08, 2012 6:34 pm

Does this guy NOT have a clue about being a professional....? Get a clue dude or you'll be sitting in the Goodell Suspension Box.

Williams in program but is not changing his ways
Redskins tackle Trent Williams raised some eyebrows yesterday when he said that he did not intend to make any changes to his lifestyle in the wake of last year’s four-game suspension for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy.

When asked about changing his ways, Williams said that he did not plan to do so.

“We’re dealing with the program,” he said. “They take certain amount of measures to make sure it doesn’t occur again. But not really.”

Given another chance to say he was going to alter his lifestyle to help ensure that the “measures” will be effective, he simply replied, “Nah.”

Williams’ responses have left some feeling less than confident that he will be able to avoid testing positive again. Such a result would lead to a one-year suspension for the Redskins’ starting left tackle.

On the one hand, it would be nice if Williams stayed home and watched TV and played video games every night. But it just isn’t realistic to expect any 23-year-old man to do that, especially one who happens to be a millionaire. Since he is going to go out at night all the team can do is hope that the program works and that Williams is able to make good decisions.

Williams’ future, and, to an extent, that of the franchise, rests on his ability to do so.

http://www.realredskins.com/

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:03 pm

Maybe his lifestyle doesn't involve using...

Ya I know he failed last year but he didn't his rookie year. A "program" for weed is stupid and I think that's what he.was saying.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:08 pm

cowboykillerzRED wrote:Maybe his lifestyle doesn't involve using...

Ya I know he failed last year but he didn't his rookie year. A "program" for weed is stupid and I think that's what he.was saying.

Ummm. this was the second strike. You seriously think he wasn't using????

TeeterSalad · Post by **TeeterSalad** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:26 pm

I read a different take on the interviews....

...here

I think he's saying a major lifestyle change is not needed in order to keep off the ganga.

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:33 pm

Funny how 2 writers can get a different take on one interview....hahaha

Trent just needs to "SAY NO" to dope

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue May 08, 2012 8:44 pm

He has said that he's committed to being a leader, and the best LT he can possibly be. We shall see...

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:18 pm

I'm all for him showing that he's going to be himself and to prepare and be as good a LT as he can

No matter what he does - if he does not make much of an effort to do ONLY that ... his departure WILL happen whether he smokes weed or not

there is no room on this team and especially on the offensive line for any player that thinks he can get by on talent alone

I want him to be great but I would love to see him get cut if he does not make a huge effort to be really good

players that think they've got it made, don't belong here - there have been a few here recently that are NOT here any more

there will be some players that are going to realize - I could have been there :lol:

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:19 am

TeeterSalad wrote:I read a different take on the interviews....

...here

I think he's saying a major lifestyle change is not needed in order to keep off the ganga.

This.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:35 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
TeeterSalad wrote:I read a different take on the interviews....

...here

I think he's saying a major lifestyle change is not needed in order to keep off the ganga.

This.

I agree. I think he's saying "fine, I won't smoke weed, but being suspended for smoking weed in the first place is stupid."

Quit treating the man like he's a heroin addict.

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:45 am

riggofan wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
TeeterSalad wrote:I read a different take on the interviews....

...here

I think he's saying a major lifestyle change is not needed in order to keep off the ganga.

This.

I agree. I think he's saying "fine, I won't smoke weed, but being suspended for smoking weed in the first place is stupid."

Quit treating the man like he's a heroin addict.

Who's treating him like a heroin addict? Regardless of anybody's views on the merits or pitfalls of smoking weed, the issue that would worry most Redskins fans is: is Trent Williams capable of dedicating himself to the lifestyle required to be the best player he can be? And is he likely to exercise good judgment in making the right decisions in future?

I'm not getting on my moral high horse about the exact nature of his offence, but the fact is he is one stupid decision away from a year long suspension at a position where we don't have strength in depth.

For my liking, he's a little too laid back about the position he is in, but maybe that's just the effect of the pot (on him, not me! ;-)

)

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:04 am

UK Skins Fan wrote:I'm not getting on my moral high horse about the exact nature of his offence, but the fact is he is one stupid decision away from a year long suspension at a position where we don't have strength in depth.

It won't be a death sentence if he's gone. We drafted a tackle and Big Mo Hurt played well towards the end of the season. Mike's drafting well for contingency puporses.

UK Skins Fan wrote:For my liking, he's a little too laid back about the position he is in, but maybe that's just the effect of the pot (on him, not me! )

I understand but I'd be the same way. If I had to deal with the media like they do, I'd be a minimalist. Those guys come in on their high-horses and ask you the stupidest questions ever, and it's the 1000th time you've answered. I'd most likely be worse and tell people what they really want to hear, even though it'd be the opposite of what I'd be doing.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:57 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:I'm not getting on my moral high horse about the exact nature of his offence, but the fact is he is one stupid decision away from a year long suspension at a position where we don't have strength in depth.

It won't be a death sentence if he's gone. We drafted a tackle and Big Mo Hurt played well towards the end of the season. Mike's drafting well for contingency puporses.

UK Skins Fan wrote:For my liking, he's a little too laid back about the position he is in, but maybe that's just the effect of the pot (on him, not me! )

I understand but I'd be the same way. If I had to deal with the media like they do, I'd be a minimalist. Those guys come in on their high-horses and ask you the stupidest questions ever, and it's the 1000th time you've answered. I'd most likely be worse and tell people what they really want to hear, even though it'd be the opposite of what I'd be doing.

I'm sorry it want the 1000th time he was asked that question by the media, it was the first time. It was the first time because this was the first time he had to faced the media since his suspension. It wasn'ta stupid question, it was relevant and the media would have been irresponsible not to ask him of he changed his life style.

Frankly, him saying he didn't have to change a life style that lead to three (or four) failed drug test in a year is just plain stupid.

We aren't talking about one failed test we are talking about 3 or 4. What a moron!

He lost almost $3M because of his life style, is one toke away from losing a season, and even of you are in denial and don't think you need to change anything in your life style be smart enough to know that telling the media that is absolutely the DUMBEST thing he could have said!

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:17 am

skinsfan#33 wrote:I'm sorry it want the 1000th time he was asked that question by the media, it was the first time.

About this, yes. In general, the media here in DC are hounds. We as fans hate DC coverage of the team at times, so we can relate.

skinsfan#33 wrote:Frankly, him saying he didn't have to change a life style that lead to three (or four) failed drug test in a year is just plain stupid.

That's your interpreation of it. I took it as it isn't an addiction and that he won't have anymore issues.

If he said that he needed to make drastic changes, you'd all be speculating that he's a coke addict and needs to be on the show Intervention.

skinsfan#33 wrote:We aren't talking about one failed test we are talking about 3 or 4. What a moron!

Agreed.

skinsfan#33 wrote:He lost almost $3M because of his life style, is one toke away from losing a season, and even of you are in denial and don't think you need to change anything in your life style be smart enough to know that telling the media that is absolutely the DUMBEST thing he could have said!

Anything he said would/could have been spun way they wanted it to be. It would have been interpretated any and every type of way, just like it has on here. Sure, he def could have shown more remorse. I agree.

But seriously, what would have more remorse netted him? A few more fans on a message board? A few less jokes? A flower basket? At the end of the day, what matters is him not smoking. Anything else is trivial to me. I dont give a darn what he says to the media if he's on the field for every game and playing at a high level.

I dont need Trent to be my role model. I don't need him to be a beaconing light of hope and justice.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:26 am

I agree Chris - I think too much is made of "the role model" BS

I'm going to take it that this kid 'gets it' and he doesn't think that it's an issue anymore

the media almost want it to be an issue

HOPEFULLY both of these guys kick it into gear and become a part of what looks like being a special time in DC

the DC media love to 'blow' everything :wink:

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:33 am

UK Skins Fan wrote:Who's treating him like a heroin addict? Regardless of anybody's views on the merits or pitfalls of smoking weed, the issue that would worry most Redskins fans is: is Trent Williams capable of dedicating himself to the lifestyle required to be the best player he can be? And is he likely to exercise good judgment in making the right decisions in future?

We had a lengthy forum discussion months ago about this with some people comparing Williams to a crackhead and calling him an addict. I don't personally care to revisit it. I have my own views on marijuana use and others are welcome to theirs.

I don't disagree with your question about his judgement though. Deciding to smoke weed when you KNOW you could be tested, when you've already failed one test, and smoking could potentially cost you millions of dollars is pretty much the epitome of poor judgement.

I think what Williams was arguing about was whether or not he needs to change his "lifestyle". The man is a high first round pick, playing one of the toughest positions at the highest level of professional football. Maybe he feels like he is personally ok with that and has been pretty successful with his "lifestyle".

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:59 am

Maybe some one bought him a wizinater for his birthday... Why anyone fails a drug test is beyond me lol

TeeterSalad · Post by **TeeterSalad** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:10 pm

I think the media is blowing this way out of proportion...It's not that hard to stop smoking the cheeba if your lively hood depends on it. I have to believe that the Silverback knows this...he made a mistake...he is ready to move on. Why is Freddy D's name lost in all of this? He's in the exact same situation.

In my opinion the second strike on both these guys was BS and there should have been a window after the lockout ended for them to "clean up". They were in a substance abuse program up until the lockout and were doing just fine, then the lockout suddenly ends and their tested before it is reinstated? Irresponsible? Sure. Punishable? Shouldn't be IMO.

Heres a link to an article on that...

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:22 pm

TeeterSalad wrote:In my opinion the second strike on both these guys was BS and there should have been a window after the lockout ended for them to "clean up". They were in a substance abuse program up until the lockout and were doing just fine, then the lockout suddenly ends and their tested before it is reinstated? Irresponsible? Sure. Punishable? Shouldn't be IMO.

Heres a link to an article on that...

And let's not act like the NFL listens to things like rules and laws when it comes to handing down punishments. According to the new CBA, previous trangressions are not punishable, yet the Saints players are suspended... LOL

And let's not act like the NFL doesn't approve contracts and retro-actively penalize teams for not participating in illegal activities....

Nobody is excusing these guys from self-accountability, but we're more-so saying get over it....

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:32 pm

riggofan wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:Who's treating him like a heroin addict? Regardless of anybody's views on the merits or pitfalls of smoking weed, the issue that would worry most Redskins fans is: is Trent Williams capable of dedicating himself to the lifestyle required to be the best player he can be? And is he likely to exercise good judgment in making the right decisions in future?

We had a lengthy forum discussion months ago about this with some people comparing Williams to a crackhead and calling him an addict. I don't personally care to revisit it. I have my own views on marijuana use and others are welcome to theirs.

I don't disagree with your question about his judgement though. Deciding to smoke weed when you KNOW you could be tested, when you've already failed one test, and smoking could potentially cost you millions of dollars is pretty much the epitome of poor judgement.

I think what Williams was arguing about was whether or not he needs to change his "lifestyle". The man is a high first round pick, playing one of the toughest positions at the highest level of professional football. Maybe he feels like he is personally ok with that and has been pretty successful with his "lifestyle".

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:39 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:Frankly, him saying he didn't have to change a life style that lead to three (or four) failed drug test in a year is just plain stupid.

That's your interpreation of it. I took it as it isn't an addiction and that he won't have anymore issues.

If he said that he needed to make drastic changes, you'd all be speculating that he's a coke addict and needs to be on the show Intervention.

I dont need Trent to be my role model.

No one said anything about him needing to make drastic changes or about him being a coke addict (he popped for grass not coke).

Look if a coworker of yours got stopped for a dwi and then got caught two or three more times you would think he had a drinking problem. If he told you he didn't need to make any life style changes, he just wouldn't drink and drive any more you wouldn't believe him for a second.

Athletes are role models even though they shouldn't be, but I couldn't care less about that! All I care about is him lining up on Sundays and keeping RG3 up right.

If he doesn't change his life style he will get popped again and he will be gone for a year. He doesn't even think he has a problem...

What a dope!

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:50 pm

Davis and Williams can REALLY help this offense if they try hard enough

Davis and Williams don't have to get 'caught' by the NFL

Davis and Williams don't need to change their lifestyles or give up anything ...

Davis and Williams ONLY need to prepare and play at the level they are capable of

anything less will show where their priorities lie

anything less will mean they are not getting much playing time here

this ain't the 'same old Redskins' ... not by a longshot

gotta love it

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:51 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:No one said anything about him needing to make drastic changes or about him being a coke addict (he popped for grass not coke).

I know what he got in trouble for. Nobody is saying that he was popped for coke but I'm saying people act like he was.

skinsfan#33 wrote:Look if a coworker of yours got stopped for a dwi and then got caught two or three more times you would think he had a drinking problem. If he told you he didn't need to make any life style changes, he just wouldn't drink and drive any more you wouldn't believe him for a second.

DWI is a different beast. That's not a good comparision at all, he's not endangering anyone but himself.

In addition, as reported in a post above, there's the possiblity that this occurred during the lockout.

skinsfan#33 wrote:Athletes are role models even though they shouldn't be

That's not his problem.

skinsfan#33 wrote:All I care about is him lining up on Sundays and keeping RG3 up right.

Same here.

skinsfan#33 wrote:If he doesn't change his life style he will get popped again and he will be gone for a year.

You're not getting the point that MAYBE according to him, it won't take a big lifestyle change to make that adjustment. There is the possiblity that he can provide the desired result on the field and off the field with some heroic effort... If you don't believe that fine. But the possibility is there, even if you choose not to believe it.

skinsfan#33 wrote:He doesn't even think he has a problem...

Maybe he doesn't. I've seen people smoke it once a year, no issue at all. I dunno, I don't claim to know. I don't really care. If he's on the field, great. If he flunks out, that's his life, this team will carry-on. The line gelled without him last year, it'll do so again if needed.

I'm just not hung up on it like others are.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:58 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:No one said anything about him needing to make drastic changes or about him being a coke addict (he popped for grass not coke).

I know what he got in trouble for. Nobody is saying that he was popped for coke but I'm saying people act like he was.

YEP. Exactly.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Wed May 09, 2012 1:09 pm

not like i smoke ganjer or anything like dat 8-[

but i do recall a certain buddy of mine *cough cough* went to orlando with his wife for an entire week and couldn't smoke at all. he came back, joined a skins fans messg. board and started to curse alot. all because he couldn't smoke his lil bitty ganjer that hurt no one but himself.

:wink:

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed May 09, 2012 1:19 pm

Poor Joe, came into this thread to get the scoop on where Trent hid his equipment, and got a lecture instead. #-o