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No more BONANZA $$$ for rooks...
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:19 pm
by tribeofjudah
Andrew and Robert came out of college 2 years too late for the BIG BONANZA paychecks.
A far cry from Bradford. It went down a bit to Cam.
Now it's gone way, way down for Andrew and Robert....
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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details When No. 1 overall picks Andrew Luck signs with Indianapolis, it is expected to be a four-year deal worth just over $22 million.
Re: No more BONANZA $$$ for rooks...
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:39 pm
by 1niksder
tribeofjudah wrote:Andrew and Robert came out of college 2 years too late for the BIG BONANZA paychecks.
A far cry from Bradford. It went down a bit to Cam.
Now it's gone way, way down for Andrew and Robert....
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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details When No. 1 overall picks Andrew Luck signs with Indianapolis, it is expected to be a four-year deal worth just over $22 million.
Mara and GoDaHell forgot to take enough money from the Redskins and Jurrah's Girls to raise the Rookie wage scale (Which still hasn't come out). That means the Pool will be based on what the 2012 cap should have been ($113M)
Cam Newton went #1 last year and got a four-year contract worth $22,025,498
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:39 pm
by SkinsJock
If Luck and RG3 are as good as expected they will make more money than Cam Newton or Sam Bradford
the Redskins will end up making RG3 one of the highest paid QBs ever
all he has to do is get through that first few years with the same desire and drive as he's had the past few years
he'll be paid ..... and then some

Re: No more BONANZA $$$ for rooks...
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:42 pm
by DarthMonk
1niksder wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:Andrew and Robert came out of college 2 years too late for the BIG BONANZA paychecks.
A far cry from Bradford. It went down a bit to Cam.
Now it's gone way, way down for Andrew and Robert....
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details When No. 1 overall picks Andrew Luck signs with Indianapolis, it is expected to be a four-year deal worth just over $22 million.
Mara and GoDaHell forgot to take enough money from the Redskins and Jurrah's Girls to raise the Rookie wage scale (Which still hasn't come out). That means the Pool will be based on what the 2012 cap should have been ($113M)
Cam Newton went #1 last year and got a four-year contract worth $22,025,498
Bummer

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:52 pm
by tribeofjudah
SkinsJock wrote:If Luck and RG3 are as good as expected they will make more money than Cam Newton or Sam Bradford
the Redskins will end up making RG3 one of the highest paid QBs ever
all he has to do is get through that first few years with the same desire and drive as he's had the past few years
he'll be paid ..... and then some

Hey Jock....you sound like a football GM.
Vinny........is that you???
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:18 pm
by Irn-Bru
The vets screwed over the rookies with the new deal. Of course, the top 10 picks had been screwing over teams for a decade before that.
Still, it'd be nice if they had tried to find a middle road. Especially now that restricted free agency doesn't pay like it used to.

Re: No more BONANZA $$$ for rooks...
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:22 pm
by Irn-Bru
DarthMonk wrote:Cam Newton went #1 last year and got a four-year contract worth $22,025,498
Bummer

Try looking at it from the other perspective. Suppose Cam Newton's worth is something closer to 4 years, $35 million, but the new CBA and free agent rules means he's gotta play for 33% less than he could otherwise get.
Would your claim really be that Cam wasn't wronged just because he's still making many millions? Because $13 million, even to a man with $22 million, is a hell of a lot of money to be flippant about — especially when you're not the one missing out on it.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:26 pm
by 1niksder
Signing Bonus of $14,518,5444. Then make base salaries of $375,000 in 2011, $1,376,159 in 2012, $2,377,318 in 2013 and $3,378,477 in 2014
Where do I sign?
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:30 pm
by Irn-Bru
1niksder wrote:Where do I sign?
I'm not saying they aren't making plenty of money, enough to retire on if they are smart, or that this is the world's biggest problem. Far from it. (Both of those responses are red herrings, of course.)
But you try asking Apple if it'd be insignificant to lose $1 billion just because they have $75 billion (or whatever absurdly high number it is) in the bank. Just because these guys are rich doesn't mean they deserve whatever financial penalty the NFL decides it's going to give them.
(Actually, to be proportionate it'd probably have to be more like $35 billion. You know, chump change.

)
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:32 pm
by Irn-Bru
And yes, I too would love to be "cheated" this way. I'm only human.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:14 pm
by 1niksder
Irn-Bru wrote:And yes, I too would love to be "cheated" this way. I'm only human.

That's all I'm saying....
Retirees got screwed too
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:38 pm
by Deadskins
Irn-Bru wrote:And yes, I too would love to be "cheated" this way. I'm only human.

Yes, please give me the shaft.

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:19 am
by SouthLondonRedskin
1niksder wrote:Signing Bonus of $14,518,5444. Then make base salaries of $375,000 in 2011, $1,376,159 in 2012, $2,377,318 in 2013 and $3,378,477 in 2014

Where do I sign?
After me!!!
That's where you sign....
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:55 am
by SkinsJock
early reports are that Luck will get about $22M and Griffin about $21M
Luck and Griffin's future contracts are going to be astronomical
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:07 am
by Chris Luva Luva
Deadskins wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:And yes, I too would love to be "cheated" this way. I'm only human.

Yes, please give me the shaft.

FFA, give that man the shaft.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:04 am
by Mississippiskinsfan2
1niksder wrote:Signing Bonus of $14,518,5444. Then make base salaries of $375,000 in 2011, $1,376,159 in 2012, $2,377,318 in 2013 and $3,378,477 in 2014

Where do I sign?

There's no way I could feed my kids with that little!!!
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:10 pm
by Deadskins
But seriously, I think it's a good thing with the affect it has on the draft, with teams not fearing making a mistake so much anymore. It allows for more trading, which makes the draft more exciting, IMO.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:04 pm
by DarthMonk
Oh, I get it ... and I could go either way.
He's worth exactly what he signed for. Bradford was worth exactly what he signed for. So was Jamarcus Hustle. I'm worth exactly what I just signed for. That's the old "free market" mantra and I get that too.
Of course, I'd be a little dissed if I were the 1st #1 pick with the new wage scale. But honestly, before was insanity. No wonder the vets were pissed ... and people really didn't want the top pick!
No tears here.
DarthMonk
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:56 pm
by Irn-Bru
DarthMonk wrote:He's worth exactly what he signed for. Bradford was worth exactly what he signed for. So was Jamarcus Hustle. I'm worth exactly what I just signed for. That's the old "free market" mantra and I get that too.
I don't think that's quite right.
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:19 pm
by DarthMonk
Irn-Bru wrote:DarthMonk wrote:He's worth exactly what he signed for. Bradford was worth exactly what he signed for. So was Jamarcus Hustle. I'm worth exactly what I just signed for. That's the old "free market" mantra and I get that too.
I don't think that's quite right.
I don't necessarily agree with it but it's a sort of tautology. Whatever you sign for is what you are worth by definition.
Rookie QBs picked 1st in the NFL draft are worth more than heart surgeons but not as much as top pick rookie QBs from 3 years ago - straight out of the capiltalist handbook.
For me, they are way overvalued now and it was worse a few years ago - but I still watch, live, die, and cheer on a weekly basis come the fall.
DarthMonk
Re: No more BONANZA $$$ for rooks...
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:48 pm
by Countertrey
Irn-Bru wrote:DarthMonk wrote:Cam Newton went #1 last year and got a four-year contract worth $22,025,498
Bummer

Try looking at it from the other perspective. Suppose Cam Newton's worth is something closer to 4 years, $35 million, but the new CBA and free agent rules means he's gotta play for 33% less than he could otherwise get.
Would your claim really be that Cam wasn't wronged just because he's still making many millions? Because $13 million, even to a man with $22 million, is a hell of a lot of money to be flippant about — especially when you're not the one missing out on it.
You keep trying... but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy with getting ONLY 22 Million over 4 years... ummm... sucks to be them...
At a time when millions are wondering where their next paycheck is coming from, fretting over the pitance received by a top ten check seems almost obscene...
I have noticed that none of them have turned up their nose at the contracts...
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:17 pm
by SkinsJock
All of these athletes get paid way too much
the shame is not the amount of money they should make OR deserve to make - most players have no idea how to keep the money OR ensure their financial stability after football
players spend a lot of time and effort getting into the NFL but very few spend any time or efforts in preparing for what follows football
I understand that Santana Moss is hurting financially - that is just a big shame to me
someone once said 'a fool and his money are soon parted' - how in the world did a 'fool' get money in the first place?
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:30 pm
by DarthMonk
Mississippiskinsfan2 wrote:1niksder wrote:Signing Bonus of $14,518,5444. Then make base salaries of $375,000 in 2011, $1,376,159 in 2012, $2,377,318 in 2013 and $3,378,477 in 2014

Where do I sign?

There's no way I could feed my kids with that little!!!
Speaking of children:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG-xC8Mu6SM