Skins trade for RB Tim Hightower

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:02 pm

Skins trade late round pick & Vonnie Holliday for RB Tim Hightower

Cappster · Post by **Cappster** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:03 pm

Hmmm, I would rather have Bradshaw. I don't really get this move.

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:03 pm

Thanks 1Nik.... Adam Shefty is busy tweeting this Sunday....!!!

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:04 pm

There's probably $ involved. I like Hightower but wonder if that means something about Torain or one of the rookies.

jr_uscg · Post by **jr_uscg** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:04 pm

Thats crazy! He still good and another young player

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:04 pm

It was a conditional late-round pick

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:05 pm

i love it he is perfect for shannys run game. one cut and downhill. he is also a hard runner who can lay the lumber and wear a team down throughout a game.

jr_uscg · Post by **jr_uscg** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:06 pm

Always liked him better than Beanie Wells

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:12 pm

Redskins acquired RB Tim Hightower from the Cardinals in exchange for DE Vonnie Holiday and a conditional late-round pick.

Hightower wore thin on the Cardinals coaching staff with five fumbles in back-to-back seasons. Though he's a reliable pass-catcher, Hightower has been one of the least effective backs with the ball in hands, failing to top 7.0 yards per reception since entering the league in 2008. Regardless, he's a good bet to take over the passing-down role in Mike Shanahan's offense, further clouding the backfield picture. Ryan Williams will see immediate playing time in Arizona, playing on passing downs over Beanie Wells.

http://www.rotoworld.com

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:18 pm

I doubt Holliday was going to make the roster anyway

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:36 pm

We got more for Holiday than we did for either McNabb or Haynesworth.

jr_uscg · Post by **jr_uscg** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:38 pm

Good pick, local kid wanted to be here.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:57 pm

cleg wrote:We got more for Holiday than we did for either McNabb or Haynesworth.

... apparently, character has some trade value.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:07 pm

1niksder wrote:It was a conditional late-round pick

I wonder if the condition is weather or not he makes the team.

Anyone know how he is at blitz pickup?

He certainly isn't an ever down back, but is a very good short yardage runner (ege he holds onto the ball).

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:07 pm

1niksder wrote:It was a conditional late-round pick

I wonder if the condition is weather or not he makes the team.

Anyone know how he is at blitz pickup?

He certainly isn't an ever down back, but is a very good short yardage runner (ege he holds onto the ball).

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:08 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
1niksder wrote:It was a conditional late-round pick
I wonder if the condition is weather or not he makes the team.

Anyone know how he is at blitz pickup?

He certainly isn't an ever down back, but is a very good short yardage runner (ege he holds onto the ball).

Based on playing time

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:23 pm

1niksder wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:
1niksder wrote:It was a conditional late-round pick
I wonder if the condition is weather or not he makes the team.

Anyone know how he is at blitz pickup?

He certainly isn't an ever down back, but is a very good short yardage runner (ege he holds onto the ball).
Based on playing time

If he doesn't make the team he won't get much playing time.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:34 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
If he doesn't make the team he won't get much playing time.

If he doesn't make the team Arizona won't get a draft pick

That might be why Vonnie was included in the deal.

A bit off topic but...

If the D-line was bad last year.... how is it that Bruce Allen is able to trade them for anything?

3 DL traded for two players and two pick, Vinny could never have done this.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:49 pm

Hold the phone.......

Rumor going around that Holliday will not report to Arizona.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:27 pm

Not good

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:34 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
1niksder wrote:It was a conditional late-round pick
I wonder if the condition is weather or not he makes the team.

Anyone know how he is at blitz pickup?

He certainly isn't an ever down back, but is a very good short yardage runner (ege he holds onto the ball).

Listening to WTOP DC Radio - the reporter said that was very good at "blocking in the backfield." The reporter insinuated that that was the purpose for aquiring him - third down back.

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:38 pm

I like this deal. It adds a young player to the mix, who has something to prove and does not have a large contract. Bradshaw would have expected to be given the starting job and starting money.

Hightower has good hands, blocking skills and averaged 4.8 YPC last year. I remember his rookie season when he basically took playing time away from Edgerrin James. He looked good from what I saw.

RedskinsRule56 · Post by **RedskinsRule56** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:39 pm

Reports are that old man Vonnie Holliday may not report to Arizona and instead retire. If this happens the trade will be voided.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:40 pm

1niksder wrote:Hold the phone.......

Rumor going around that Holliday will not report to Arizona.

From the NFL: If Vonnie does not report to the Cards, he would be subject to a fine under the terms of the CBA.

He should know that. Lord knows I wouldn't want the Skins to get bamboozled or hoodwinked :lol:

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:42 pm

1niksder wrote:Hold the phone.......

Rumor going around that Holliday will not report to Arizona.

It does kind of suck for Holliday. To be the player rep and deal with all the BS through the whole lock-out. Then get traded away right after the NFL resumes work again.

From a technical standpoint, I like the Hightower deal. But Holliday is a good veteran leader and seem to contribute nicely to this defense last season.