Haynesworth Charged in Road Rage Incident

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:45 pm

Charged with assault in relation to a road rage incident in Fairfax.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... incident/1

andyjens89 · Post by **andyjens89** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:49 pm

Sounds about right. I don't know why he is so angry all the time. If I had $100 million I would be pretty happy.

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:09 pm

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime- ... ed-in.html

About 9:16 a.m., at the intersection with New Dominion Parkway, near the entrance to Reston Hospital Center, the two vehicles came to a stoplight. Broderick said the driver of the pickup truck emerged from his vehicle, had a brief exchange of words, and then struck the Civic driver.

That's funny, because he couldn't hit anything this year, when he actually played.

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:40 pm

Awesome. Just another great "character guy" for the skins......

Oh yeah, what is the status of Davis' trial. Man, the front office really put together a great bunch of guys......

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:44 pm

andyjens89 wrote:Sounds about right. I don't know why he is so angry all the time. If I had $100 million I would be pretty happy.

Haha. Yeah, no kidding.

skins2357 · Post by **skins2357** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:12 pm

I wish the guy in the car got out and whooped his butt. How funny would it be to hear " ALbert angrily got out of his car to confront the other driver, but was immediatly taken down and choked out"

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:39 pm

If it was a Maryland driver I'm with Big Al on this one. The ABSOLUTE worst drivers come from Maryland.

broomboy · Post by **broomboy** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:01 pm

If he gets charged criminally with assault and has to do a small bit of time, any idea if the skins can get some money back from him?

Cappster · Post by **Cappster** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:04 pm

The other driver doesn't sound innocent in this situation with making "hand gestures" to Haynesworth at the red light. Albert should know better, but this guy obviously has little self control.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:04 pm

broomboy wrote:If he gets charged criminally with assault and has to do a small bit of time, any idea if the skins can get some money back from him?

It's a misdemeanor charge, on the same level as a speeding ticket. He isn't doing time.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:10 pm

andyjens89 wrote:Sounds about right. I don't know why he is so angry all the time. If I had $100 million I would be pretty happy.

mmm... perhaps if he actually had $100 Million, he'd be a little less inclined towards such... displays.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:12 pm

andyjens89 wrote:Sounds about right. I don't know why he is so angry all the time. If I had $100 million I would be pretty happy.

right

SprintRightOption · Post by **SprintRightOption** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:25 pm

Sources reveal that after throwing the punch, Haynesworth went to lay on the ground to rest up.

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I just read the Washington Post article and it looks like somebody already beat me to the punch-line.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:27 pm

SprintRightOption wrote:Sources reveal that after throwing the punch, Haynesworth went to lay on the ground to rest up.

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I just read the Washington Post article and it looks like somebody already beat me to the punch-line.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:07 pm

andyjens89 wrote:Sounds about right. I don't know why he is so angry all the time. If I had $100 million I would be pretty happy.

A lot of folks including me, believe that Albert shows symptoms of Bi-Polar I Disorder. It has never been confirmed in the media, as far as I know, that he is Bi-Polar. After the Andre Gurode stomping, it is believed (again, I find no confirmation) that during his mandatory anger management training, he was diagnosed as being Bi-Polar. If he Bi-Polar, it would explain, not excuse, a lot of is behavior.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:17 pm

Cappster wrote:The other driver doesn't sound innocent in this situation with making "hand gestures" to Haynesworth at the red light. Albert should know better, but this guy obviously has little self control.

Yes, I think that there is another side to this story. If the guy said that Albert stomped his head then I would have believed it.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:34 pm

I just keep thinking I wish he'd play football with this emotion

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:49 pm

Red_One43 wrote:
andyjens89 wrote:Sounds about right. I don't know why he is so angry all the time. If I had $100 million I would be pretty happy.
A lot of folks including me, believe that Albert shows symptoms of Bi-Polar I Disorder. It has never been confirmed in the media, as far as I know, that he is Bi-Polar. After the Andre Gurode stomping, it is believed (again, I find no confirmation) that during his mandatory anger management training, he was diagnosed as being Bi-Polar. If he Bi-Polar, it would explain, not excuse, a lot of is behavior.

I work in mental health...
There's nothing wrong with calling an immature, spoiled brat an immature spoiled brat... or with calling a temper tantrum a temper tantrum.

Not buying the bipolar stuff in his case... sorry, I just think it's a load.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:55 pm

Countertrey wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:
andyjens89 wrote:Sounds about right. I don't know why he is so angry all the time. If I had $100 million I would be pretty happy.
A lot of folks including me, believe that Albert shows symptoms of Bi-Polar I Disorder. It has never been confirmed in the media, as far as I know, that he is Bi-Polar. After the Andre Gurode stomping, it is believed (again, I find no confirmation) that during his mandatory anger management training, he was diagnosed as being Bi-Polar. If he Bi-Polar, it would explain, not excuse, a lot of is behavior.
I work in mental health...
There's nothing wrong with calling an immature, spoiled brat an immature spoiled brat... or with calling a temper tantrum a temper tantrum.

Not buying the bipolar stuff in his case... sorry, I just think it's a load.

Of course as a mental health professional, you know that Bi-Polar is not just about temper. Mood swings are also a big symptom. Laziness, non-caring are also symptoms. Haynesworth's inconsistent play is a symptom. Yes, he laid on the field against Philly in game 2, but it was Coach Mike who was proud of Haynesworth after the way he played in Philly game 1. It was Hayneworth who failed to show up on time after flying in from his brother's funeral . It was Haynesworth that flew over the line to force a Cutler fumble and stop a TD. Haynesworth had a soft cheesy practice before the Giants game this season , but It was Haynesworth who, out of camera view obliterated a Bear during D.Hall's pick six. Think back to last season, it was Haynesworth who came to the aid of D. Hall against the Falcons when no one else did. In the off-season, Redskin teammates bashed him when he didn't show up for mandatory OTA's, but I didn't hear any Redskins bashing him as a teammate during the season. The teammates, I heard during the season said that Hayneworth's attitude in the locker room was cool with them. On The FAN 106.7, Haynesworth's angry outburst, just before he was suspended, that people were out to make him look bad was a classic BP rant. Of course, as all of the above proves nothing. All of the above aare observations without the history of Albert's anger problems in High school and college. The above isn't posted to make excuses or defend Albert. The above observations say that there have been times with the Redskins that Ablert played like he cared. Played like he didn't care. Played angrily. Played lazily. Inconsistent. BP folks are usually mild mannered until something sets them off. On a day to day basis, ALbert has been mild mannered maybe a little too much for football's sake.

CounterTrey, you said,

There's nothing wrong with calling an immature, spoiled brat an immature spoiled brat... or with calling a temper tantrum a temper tantrum.

Only problem is Albert was never a child of privilege and he didn't develop his anger problems when he got the money. His anger issues are publicly documented as far back as high school.

You further said

Not buying the bipolar stuff in his case... sorry, I just think it's a load.

All what I posted - is not meant to be bought. It is nothing more - than food for thought.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:19 pm

Sorry, RO... my personal belief (from experience) is that Bipolar diagnoses are handed out like candy. An awful lot of them are nothing more than an excuse for temper outbursts... and, from what I can see, that's pretty much it. You do not have to be a "child of priviledge" to be a spoiled brat... all it takes is the talent to be a highly pursued high school football talent to realize that you can get away with it. He was, and he did... for many years... just because of his talent.

BTW, for the record, mood swings of Bipolar type 1 are not the kind that come and go in an instant... they occur over weeks or months. Not the kind of thing that suddenly pops up because someone flipped you off at a stoplight, or got in your face on a football field.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:25 pm

Countertrey wrote:Sorry, RO... my personal belief (from experience) is that Bipolar diagnoses are handed out like candy. An awful lot of them are nothing more than an excuse for temper outbursts... and, from what I can see, that's pretty much it. You do not have to be a "child of priviledge" to be a spoiled brat... all it takes is the talent to be a highly pursued high school football talent to realize that you can get away with it. He was, and he did... for many years... just because of his talent.

BTW, for the record, mood swings of Bipolar type 1 are not the kind that come and go in an instant... they occur over weeks or months. Not the kind of thing that suddenly pops up because someone flipped you off at a stoplight, or got in your face on a football field.

Countertrey, your points, in both sections, are well taken. I respect your experience.

welch · Post by **welch** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:45 pm

My wife is a social worker who often dealt with truly bi-polar clients. They would have a long, miserable, down period, depressed beyond belief, and then a swing upward. Some would skip their meds because they liked the upward thrill.

One client was a 70 year old man who rode his in-line roller-skates on Broadway every day. Strong as a bull, and people would say, "Oh, how cute!" Until he skated to a few inches behind them and then blew a loud whistle he wore around his neck. Did it one day to a police officer, who wanted to knock his head off but instead sent him to a hospital, where he was diagnosed as a "danger to self or others" -- the standard for admitting a person against their will.

As CT says, Hayneworth does not show bi-polar behavior. NOte that the down period would be so severe and last so long that Haynesworth would not be playing football.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:38 am

welch wrote:My wife is a social worker who often dealt with truly bi-polar clients. They would have a long, miserable, down period, depressed beyond belief, and then a swing upward. Some would skip their meds because they liked the upward thrill.

One client was a 70 year old man who rode his in-line roller-skates on Broadway every day. Strong as a bull, and people would say, "Oh, how cute!" Until he skated to a few inches behind them and then blew a loud whistle he wore around his neck. Did it one day to a police officer, who wanted to knock his head off but instead sent him to a hospital, where he was diagnosed as a "danger to self or others" -- the standard for admitting a person against their will.

As CT says, Hayneworth does not show bi-polar behavior. NOte that the down period would be so severe and last so long that Haynesworth would not be playing football.

Welch, your comments are appreciated along with CT's. Thank you for sharing the story. Without knowing or interviewed Albert, I cannot not honestly say what the problem with the guy. I do know he needs some kind of help and I personally believe that Mike Shanahan is what Albert needs and what Albert needs is a guy who is not going to let Albert do as he pleases and a guy who will hold him accountable for the money he willingly signed a contract to get.

One thing that puzzles me Welch is you saying

NOte that the down period would be so severe and last so long that Haynesworth would not be playing football.

Alzonzo Spellman is a former NFL player who played 9 years in the NFL and was diagnosed with BP while he played. He got into so much trouble, the Bears cut him loose and he played two more seasons with the Cowboys and eventual finished out his playing days in the NFL. Not sure - but it seems to me you are implying that a BP person cannot play fprofessional football.

May issue of Archives of General Psychiatry:

Approximately 4.4 percent of U.S. adults may have some form of bipolar disorder during some point in their lifetime, including about 2.4 percent with a "sub-threshold" condition, according to an article in the May issue of Archives of General Psychiatry, one of the JAMA/Archives journals.

Welch, BP has many forms and effects people in many different ways. Many people with BP function quite well in their work environments with treatment.

I do feel that I may have been too quick to want to label Albert, BP, so thanks CT and Welch for sharing your views. You have made me think more on the subject.

I think we all can agree that the manner in which Albert has presented himself to the Redksins in not healthy for our team.